[Senate Hearing 107-208] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] S. Hrg. 107-208 WEAK LINKS: HOW SHOULD THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MANAGE AIRLINE PASSENGER AND BAGGAGE SCREENING? ======================================================================= JOINT HEARING before the COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS and the OVERSIGHT OF GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT, RESTRUCTURING, AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA SUBCOMMITTEE of the UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED SEVENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION __________ SEPTEMBER 25, 2001 __________ Printed for the use of the Committee on Governmental Affairs 76-802 U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE WASHINGTON : 2002 ____________________________________________________________________________ For Sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpr.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; (202) 512�091800 Fax: (202) 512�092250 Mail: Stop SSOP, Washington, DC 20402�090001 COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS JOSEPH I. LIEBERMAN, Connecticut, Chairman CARL LEVIN, Michigan FRED THOMPSON, Tennessee DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii TED STEVENS, Alaska RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois SUSAN M. COLLINS, Maine ROBERT G. TORRICELLI, New Jersey GEORGE V. VOINOVICH, Ohio MAX CLELAND, Georgia PETE V. DOMENICI, New Mexico THOMAS R. CARPER, Delaware THAD COCHRAN, Mississippi JEAN CARNAHAN, Missouri ROBERT F. BENNETT, Utah MARK DAYTON, Minnesota JIM BUNNING, Kentucky Joyce A. Rechtschaffen, Staff Director and Counsel Susan E. Propper, Counsel Jason M. Yanussi, Professional Staff Member Hannah S. Sistare, Minority Staff Director and Counsel Ellen B. Brown, Minority Senior Counsel Dan G. Blair, Minority Senior Counsel Alison E. Bean, Minority Professional Staff Member Darla D. Cassell, Chief Clerk ------ SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT OF GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT, RESTRUCTURING, AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois, Chairman DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii GEORGE V. VOINOVICH, Ohio ROBERT G. TORRICELLI, New Jersey TED STEVENS, Alaska THOMAS R. CARPER, Delaware SUSAN M. COLLINS, Maine JEAN CARNAHAN, Missouri PETE V. DOMENICI, New Mexico MARK DAYTON, Minnesota THAD COCHRAN, Mississippi Marianne Clifford Upton, Staff Director and Chief Counsel Andrew Richardson, Minority Staff Director Mason C. Alinger, Minority Professional Staff Member Julie L. Vincent, Chief Clerk C O N T E N T S ------ Opening statements: Page Senator Durbin............................................... 1 Senator Lieberman............................................ 5 Senator Voinovich............................................ 21 Senator Thompson............................................. 27 Senator Akaka................................................ 55 Prepared statements: Senator Cleland.............................................. 63 Senator Bunning.............................................. 64 WITNESSES Tuesday, September 25, 2001 Monte R. Belger, Acting Deputy Administrator, Federal Aviation Administration, U.S. Department of Transportation.............. 8 Hon. Kenneth M. Mead, Inspector General, U.S. Department of Transportation................................................. 10 Gerald L. Dillingham, Ph.D., Director, Physical Infrastructure Issues, U.S. General Accounting Office......................... 13 Robert W. Baker, Vice Chairman, American Airlines................ 31 Rear Admiral Paul E. Busick, USCG Ret., President and Executive Director, North Carolina Global TransPark Authority............ 34 Leonard L. Griggs, Jr., Director of Airports--City of St. Louis, Lambert-St. Louis International Airport........................ 38 Aubrey ``Bill'' Harvey, Jr., Training Supervisor for Argenbright Security at O'Hare International Airport....................... 40 Michael B. La Pier, A.A.E., Executive Director, Central Illinois Regional Airport............................................... 41 Alphabetical List of Witnesses Baker, Robert W.: Testimony.................................................... 31 Prepared statement........................................... 105 Belger, Monte R.: Testimony.................................................... 8 Prepared statement........................................... 65 Busick, Rear Admiral Paul E.: Testimony.................................................... 34 Prepared statement with an attachment........................ 109 Dillingham, Gerald L.: Testimony.................................................... 13 Prepared statement........................................... 87 Griggs, Leonard L., Jr.: Testimony.................................................... 38 Prepared statement with an attachment........................ 115 Harvey, Aubrey ``Bill,'' Jr.: Testimony.................................................... 40 Prepared statement........................................... 125 La Pier, Michael B.: Testimony.................................................... 41 Prepared statement........................................... 131 Mead, Hon. Kenneth M.: Testimony.................................................... 10 Prepared statement with an attachment........................ 74 Appendix Chart entitled ``Turnover Rates for Screeners at 19 Large Airports, May 1998-April 1999'' (submitted by Senator Durbin).. 140 Chart entitled ``Airport Security Breaches'' (submitted by Senator Durbin)................................................ 141 Chart entitled ``Actions to Improve Aviation Security'' submitted by Mr. Mead.................................................... 142 Letter from Billie H. Vincent, President and CEO, Aerospace Services International, Inc., dated September 24, 2001, with an attachment..................................................... 143 Responses to Questions for the Record from Senator Akaka: Mr. Mead..................................................... 160 Dr. Dillingham............................................... 163 Mr. Baker.................................................... 165 WEAK LINKS: HOW SHOULD THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MANAGE AIRLINE PASSENGER AND BAGGAGE SCREENING? ---------- TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 25, 2001 U.S. Senate, Committee on Governmental Affairs, and the Oversight of Government Management, Restructuring and the District of Columbia Subcommittee Washington, DC. The Committee and Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:33 p.m., in room SD-342, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Joseph I. Lieberman, Chairman of the Committee, and Hon. Richard J. Durbin, Chairman of the Subcommittee, presiding. Present: Senators Lieberman, Akaka, Durbin, Thompson, and Voinovich. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR DURBIN Senator Durbin. I would like to call this meeting of the Governmental Affairs Committee to order, and Senator Lieberman, the Chairman of this Committee, will be here very shortly. I am going to make my opening remarks brief in the interest of time because we have two very good panels, and I am sure we want to have adequate time for questions. I am glad that we are co-chairing this important hearing today. I want to especially thank the witnesses who took a great deal of time and sacrifice to travel to Capitol Hill in an effort to help us make our airports and aviation system the safest in the world. I want to particularly commend Secretary Mineta and Administrator Garvey of the Federal Aviation Administration for their quick work on Tuesday, September 11. It is hard to believe it was only 2 weeks ago. It seems like so much longer. But they took action to halt national aviation operations and to institute a ground-stop for all aircraft. These prudent actions saved lives. They prevented tragedies and confusion. This Congress and this administration has to expeditiously develop a comprehensive plan to ensure the safety of the traveling public, the security of our airports, and the continued viability of the aviation industry. First and foremost, I believe the Federal Government should immediately take responsibility for the screening of passengers and carry- on luggage and the control of security checkpoints at our Nation's airports. The United States is one of only three countries in the world--the other two are Canada and Bermuda-- that give the airlines the responsibility for passenger screening. In fact, in 100 of the 103 countries with commercial airports, screening is done by either the government or by the airport. We can no longer rely on contractors and subcontractors nor on employees with high turnover rates. We need well-trained, professional Federal Government security experts to be the central and first line of defense for airport security. According to the General Accounting Office report, the average employment turnover rate for airport screening personnel at 19 major airports in the United States is 126 percent.\1\ We have put this poster up here that you can take a look at, if you can read numbers that small from that far away. The turnover rate was as high as 416 percent at St. Louis- Lambert airfield. Other countries have registered employment turnover rates for airport screeners that are less than 50 percent, including Belgium, which has a rate of 4 percent. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ Chart entitled ``Turnover Rates for Screeners at 19 Large Airports, May 1998-April 1999'' (submitted by Senator Durbin) appears in the Appendix on page 140. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The GAO has also found in most cases a security screener's starting salary is a minimum wage $5.15 an hour or slightly higher. Other countries pay their screeners a livable wage, and many provide health and other benefits. It is a sad testament and an alarming indicator when airport parking garage attendants and fast-food restaurant workers make more per hour than those on the front lines of airline passenger safety. I have introduced legislation today, the Airline Passenger Safety Enhancement Act, that would require these airport security checkpoints to be staffed by Federal employees and better coordinate overall airport security. This bill would also require the FAA to immediately issue an order for uniformed armed law enforcement officers to monitor security checkpoints. I made this point last week in a hearing, and I would like to tell you two things that happened afterwards. It was a hearing with Secretary Mineta, and I said if we can't have Federal employees there in charge, can't we at least have a uniformed law enforcement officer on the scene right there? By the time I returned to my office, just a few feet away, I had a call from a gentleman who is going to testify today, Mr. Griggs from St. Louis-Lambert airport, who said it will be done immediately. It has been done, and I have seen it, and it makes a difference. I went through Baltimore to go home on Friday, last Friday, and saw two law enforcement officers there. It was a completely different environment at that screening checkpoint. I don't want to suggest that there aren't good, hard- working, and conscientious people at these screening checkpoints already. But there are some, and I have seen them-- I bet you have, too--who are not paying as close attention as they should, who are not taking the job as seriously as we want them to. And I think the presence of law enforcement in some capacity--until we come up with an overall national plan--will have a dramatic and positive impact. As we discover more about the events of September 11, it is clear that we had some security breakdowns. The purpose of an intelligence system in our country is to avert a crisis like the one we endured on September 11, and the purpose of good security is to make sure that we have done everything conceivable to avert the same type of crisis. The General Accounting Office has determined that undercover agents have been able to penetrate restricted areas of U.S. commercial airports with counterfeit or otherwise invalid badges or other credentials, giving those agents the opportunity, if intended, to carry weapons, explosives, other things that are dangerous to the security of everyone.\1\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ Chart entitled ``Airport Security Breaches'' (submitted by Senator Durbin) appears in the Appendix on page 141. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- We will go through this in detail. It is a sobering accounting of efforts the General Accounting Office made last year which disclosed how porous the security network was at that time. I share concerns about the effectiveness of our entire passenger and carry-on baggage screening. I think that passenger screening is just the tip of the compromised airport security iceberg. I am pleased to hear that the FAA is in the process of performing background checks on airport employees. Double- checking backgrounds and reissuing airport security badges is certainly a step in the right direction. Inspector General Mead will speak to that issue, I am sure. I don't want to overlook an issue that will be raised by one of our witnesses, and that is the cost of airport security, particularly at smaller and regional airports. A lot of my downstate Illinois airports support strong airport security procedures. But we will hear testimony today concerning one airport in Bloomington-Normal, Illinois, which may spend as much as $30,000 a month for additional security measures. Naturally, the administrators and managers at those airports are concerned about the source of funding. Finally, the airline industry is still reeling from this month's senseless attack. While carriers are doing their best to resume operations, while implementing stringent new security procedures, it is clear they face a significant economic loss, both short and long term. The quickest way to put passengers back in the seats is to ensure that every possible safety and security precaution is being taken at our airports and on our planes. [The prepared statement of Senator Durbin follows:] PREPARED STATEMENT OF SENATOR DURBIN Chairman Lieberman, thank you for agreeing to co-chair this important hearing today. And a special thank you to our witnesses for taking the time to travel to Capitol Hill to work with us on ways to make our airports and our aviation system the safest in the world. I want to commend Secretary Mineta and Administrator Garvey for their quick work on Tuesday, September 11, to halt national aviation operations and to institute a ground stop for all aircraft. These prudent actions likely prevented further tragedy and confusion. This Congress and this Administration must expeditiously develop a cooperative, comprehensive plan to ensure the safety of the traveling public, the security of our airports, and the continued viability of our aviation industry. First and foremost, the Federal Government should immediately take responsibility for the screening of passengers and carry-on luggage and the control of security checkpoints at our nation's airports. The U.S. is one of only three countries--Canada and Bermuda are the others--that give the airlines the responsibility for passenger screening. In fact, in 100 of the 103 countries with commercial airports, screening is done by either the government or by the airport. We can no longer rely on contractors and subcontractors nor on employees with high turnover rates. We need well-trained, professional Federal Government security experts to be the central line of defense for airport security. According to a General Accounting Office (GAO) report, the average employment turnover rate for airport screening personnel at 19 major U.S. airports is 126 percent. The turnover rate in some cases was as high as 416 percent at St. Louis Lambert Field [Chart]. Other countries have registered employment turnover rates for airport screeners that are less than 50 percent, including Belgium, which has a rate of 4 percent. The GAO has also found that in most cases security screeners' starting salary is minimum wage--$5.15/hour--or slightly higher. Other countries pay their screeners a livable wage and many provide health and other benefits. It is a sad testament and an alarming indicator when airport parking garage attendants and fast food restaurant workers make more per hour than those on the front lines of airline passenger safety. Today, I introduced legislation--the Airline Passenger Safety Enhancement Act of 2001--that would require these airport security check points to be staffed by Federal employees and better coordinate overall airport security. This bill would also require the FAA Administrator to immediately issue an order for uniformed, armed law enforcement officers to monitor security checkpoints. While this proposal generally appears to be supported by the airlines and by some in the administration, I think it's important for Congress to act swiftly to codify these important changes. Neither this hearing nor my legislation is intended to diminish the value of airport employees. I commend the thousands of hard-working, honest airport and airline employees who help millions of Americans travel safely every day. But, in light of recent events, we simply can't let our guard down or take airport security for granted. It's time to strengthen our resolve and our airport security. But seamless airport security is about more than just passenger screening, it must be comprehensive, coordinated security from the curbside to the cockpit. As we discover more about the tragic events of September 11, it's clear that stunning security breakdowns and breaches occurred at numerous levels. In fact, this week's TIME.com Website contains a story about the September 11 hijackings. Here's an excerpt: ``The new evidence is causing officials to broaden their investigative and security efforts to encompass not only the carry-on bag screening system but the entire aviation security apparatus at U.S. airports. The new evidence raises the worrisome possibility that the hijackers may have had accomplices deep within the `secure' areas of airports--that may include the shops and restaurants in the terminal behind the metal detectors, or amongst the thousands of people who work in catering, fueling or cleaning aircraft; or anyone who might have access to the airplane before takeoff.'' (TIME.com Website, 9/24/01) Investigators of the U.S. Department of Transportation's Office of Inspector General, in unannounced tests, have successfully gained access to supposedly secure areas of U.S. airports without proper credentials in 68 percent of those tests. Investigators were then able to board aircraft unchallenged 117 times. The GAO has determined that undercover agents have been able to penetrate restricted areas of U.S. commercial airports with counterfeit or otherwise invalid badges or other credentials, giving those agents the opportunity--if intended--to carry weapons, explosives, chemical/ biological agents, and other dangerous materials into those secure areas and onto aircraft. While I share concerns about the effectiveness of U.S. passenger and carry-on baggage screening, we would be fooling ourselves if we didn't devote the time and resources necessary to further restrict ramp and other airport operations access. Passenger screening is just the tip of the compromised airport security iceberg. I was pleased to hear that the FAA is in the process of performing background checks on airport employees. Double checking backgrounds and reissuing airport security badges is a step in the right direction. Inspector General Mead has noted in his written testimony that between February 1999 and September 14, ten security incidents occurred at major commercial airports ranging from selling false security badges to false certification of screeners to improper use of an airport badge to gain entry to a secured area [Chart]. Tighter and smarter airport security also has costs. I've heard from a number of Downstate Illinois airports that support stronger airport security procedures. However, these airports will be asked to shoulder a heavy financial burden. For example, the Central Illinois Regional Airport in Bloomington-Normal will likely need to spend as much as $30,000 per month for additional security measures. These funds are above and beyond what has been budgeted and could create a financial hardship for the airport. The Department should explore ways to help smaller airports by providing resources and technical assistance to upgrade security and enhance passenger safety. With regard to on board security, I am encouraged by the recent announcement that Federal law enforcement officers will resume the sky marshal program. This gives peace of mind and real safety assurances to the traveling public. I am a cosponsor of Senator Hutchison's Emergency Aviation Security Act, which would reinstate the Federal sky marshal program. However, I believe we can do more. Clearly, we have the technological expertise to explore additional cockpit security, from video cameras to tamper proof transponders. While we pursue common- sense solutions like stronger and more secure cockpit doors, we shouldn't delay developing high-tech solutions that very well may save lives. And when it comes to security, we shouldn't forget about Amtrak and the important role this passenger railroad plays in our national transportation system. I will continue to work with Amtrak President George Warrington and my colleagues to ensure that we address the security and infrastructure needs of the railroad. Finally, the airline industry is still reeling from this month's senseless attacks. While carriers are doing their best to resume operations while implementing stringent new security procedures, it's clear that they face a significant economic loss, both short- and long- term. On Friday, I voted to send desperately needed economic assistance, in the form of grants and loans, to our nation's ailing airlines. I will continue to work with my Senate colleagues to keep this important sector of our economy flying while protecting airline employees from layoffs and loss of benefits. But the quickest way to put passengers back in the seats is to ensure that every possible safety and security precaution is being taken at our airports and on our airplanes. I appreciate the difficult tasks that lie ahead for the Department, the Congress, and our nation. Together, we can craft common-sense solutions that protect passengers, secure our airports, and ensure that our aviation system is the safest in the world. Senator Durbin. I want to again thank the Department of Transportation, the Federal Aviation Administration, and my colleague, the Chairman of the Committee, Senator Lieberman, for scheduling this hearing. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR LIEBERMAN Chairman Lieberman. Thank you, Senator Durbin. Thanks for your initiative that led to the scheduling of the hearing, and I am really pleased that the full Committee is doing this alongside the Subcommittee on Oversight of Government Management, Restructuring, and the District of Columbia, which you chair. In light of the tragic events of September 11, the adequacy of airport screening procedures is of immediate, paramount, and very wide concern to the American people and to Members of Congress. I think we just have to say flat out that the system currently in place has failed to protect the safety of the American people, and it is our responsibility to find out what went wrong and how to correct it. This is vital from an economic as well as the obvious safety point of view. Last Friday, Congress approved a $15 billion assistance package for the airlines, but this is just the beginning of a response to the problems facing this industry that is so vital to the quality of our lives and the health of our economy. Unless we can also rebuild confidence among the American people, the passengers, in the safety of our skies, and in their safety when they enter an airport, the impact on air commerce, let alone the economy generally, will only continue to be worse and will ultimately affect every sector of our economy. That is how important the airline industry is. Since the passenger screening and carry-on baggage inspection program was implemented nearly 30 years ago, after the first wave of hijackings, the airlines, rather than the FAA or other government agency, as is well known, have had responsibility for hiring, training, and supervising the screener workforce. Under this system, about 18,000 screeners, mostly hired under contract, have been responsible for screening about 2 million passengers and their baggage each day in the United States. As again has been over and over said in the last 2 weeks and before by the gentlemen sitting before us and others, this screening workforce has been characterized as underpaid, undertrained, and underexperienced, with turnover rates that sometimes exceed 400 percent at some of the airports in this country. Training and background checks for these employees are minimal. Indeed, although the FAA was directed by Congress in 1996 to develop certification regulations for screening companies, the agency has missed several deadlines for issuing rules, including a congressional deadline of last May. Serious shortcomings in the quality of screening equipment make the problem worse. Advanced detection equipment and new technologies that could improve screeners' performance have either not been made available or have been underused. These and other safety drawbacks have been documented over and over again by the General Accounting Office and by the Department of Transportation's Inspector General. In 1996, for instance, well after a Presidential commission formed in the wake of the 1988 Lockerbie Pan Am bombing made comprehensive recommendations to improve airline security, the GAO testified that domestic and international aviation systems still had ``serious vulnerabilities,'' and that typical screening of checked baggage offered ``little protection against even moderately sophisticated explosive devices.'' Again, in May 1998, the GAO testified that nearly every aspect of the aviation security system could be exploited, could be broken through, including passenger screening, baggage inspection, and even controlling access to secure areas of airports. Last June, GAO reported that screeners missed as many as 20 percent of dangerous objects at screening checkpoints during tests they carried out. This followed on the heels of a report by the DOT Inspector General that investigators had breached secure areas of airports in this country almost 70 percent of the time they were testing. The Inspector General has reported on aviation security issues no less than 20 times in the last 4 years, finding deficiencies in everything from the administration of security guard contracts to the FAA's lack of policies and procedures for implementing an advanced explosives detection system. Clearly, sadly, we had ample warning of problems with the way security is conducted for airlines. Our job today is to look again intensely at these problems and ask questions that can help us understand what it will take to make our skies safe again, to restore public confidence in the aviation system, and then to do exactly that. For example, what new procedures and technologies can be employed to improve screening? Why haven't these systems been put in place? How do we ensure that the best technology is deployed and developed? And how do we address privacy concerns that some of our citizens may have? Another question is whether the certification standards that FAA is developing for screening companies will be strong enough to be effective, or should the very idea of contracting out screening services to private companies be jettisoned in favor of federalizing the entire screening system, as Senator Hollings and others have proposed in legislation they introduced last Friday and which may well come before the full Senate next week. And, of course, we have got to decide where we draw the line between security and convenience. There is no doubt, I think, in anyone's mind that one of the outcomes of the September 11 attacks is that checking in at airports is going to be much more time-consuming. And it should be. Security should never take a back seat to convenience. I have got to tell you, I was on planes from here, from Dulles, back and forth to Connecticut and New York over the weekend, and I got the most thorough search of my person when I entered the airport at Dulles that I have ever had. It took more time. It took more time for everybody's search because everybody was being searched. But I think we all felt better when we got on the plane that that had happened. So that inconvenience made us feel safer, and I hope it continues and intensifies. Of course, it is not enough to look only at screening passengers. As Senator Durbin has indicated, there are so many people--cleaning crews, maintenance workers, caterers--who have unescorted access to aircraft and secure areas of the airports. And, again, repeated investigations by GAO and the DOT Inspector General have revealed vulnerabilities, weaknesses here, in personal background investigations, in verifying credentials, and in preventing unauthorized access to aircraft. Recent news reports indicate that the September 11 attackers may have had accomplices who were able to position weapons for them on the airplanes that were used in those attacks. These individuals might have been caught if better security procedures were in place for ground crews and other airport employees. So those are some of the areas of inquiry that the Committee would like to get into this afternoon. I know that our witnesses will be able to shed light on this very pressing concern. I want to thank Senator Durbin again for proposing this joint hearing, for his leadership on this issue. He has had a great interest and background in aviation matters, and this Committee is more effective for having the benefit of his experience and his sense of purpose. And I look forward to working with him and other Members of the Committee as we continue our oversight role and as we, from that oversight role, contribute and cooperate with our colleagues as airport security--and transportation security generally--legislation comes to the floor of the Senate. We are now ready to go to the witnesses. Senator Durbin, I would be delighted if you would proceed. Senator Durbin. Thank you very much. Our first panel consists of three individuals who have been involved in this issue for quite some time and have a lot to present to us in terms of their findings in an official capacity. Monte Belger is the Acting Deputy Administrator of the FAA of the U.S. Department of Transportation. Thank you for joining us. Dr. Gerald Dillingham is the Associate Director of the U.S. General Accounting Office on Transportation Issues. And the Hon. Kenneth Mead is the Inspector General from the U.S. Department of Transportation. I thank you all for joining us. Mr. Belger, would you like to start? TESTIMONY OF MONTE R. BELGER,\1\ ACTING DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR, FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION Mr. Belger. Thank you, sir. I will, with your permission, submit my longer statement for the record and just make some brief opening remarks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Belger appears in the Appendix on page 65. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Lieberman, Chairman Durbin, I would like to begin, if I could, just very briefly, by offering my heartfelt condolences on behalf of all of the folks in the FAA to the families and the friends of those who were lost on September 11 in New York City, Washington, and Pennsylvania. And I want to publicly thank the courageous rescue workers and the volunteers who have been working so long and hard in the aftermath of these tragedies. But even more so, I want to publicly just take a moment to thank the staff of the FAA, and particularly our air traffic controllers, as you referred to, Chairman Durbin. In the midst of the hijackings and in the midst of the chaos, our controllers successfully guided, working with the pilots very closely, moved aircraft out of the area in which these hijacked aircraft were operating. The national ground-stop that we put in place on Tuesday morning, September 11, was unprecedented in the history of civil aviation in our country. When the order to land all planes was issued, the controllers and pilots safely landed more than 5,000 flights in a little more than 2\1/2\ hours. In the words of one editorial writer--and there have been several--the controllers, the systems people, and the management supporting them did their jobs and brought tens of thousands of Americans safely back to earth. I am very proud of their actions. It is a singular honor for me to be associated with such professionals who performed such a remarkable feat. In the aftermath of September 11, the President called on America to return to normal as quickly as possible. Our focus in the FAA has been twofold: First, to work with airports and airlines to put more stringent security measures in place; and only after we were assured that these measures were implemented did we allow airports to begin operating, first to commercial operations and then to other segments of the air transportation system. We ordered the evacuation of every airport terminal for the airports to be inspected. Every aircraft was fully inspected before any passenger was allowed to board. And we put into place further security initiatives that have been sustained beyond the reopening of the system. Some of these initiatives are clearly visible to the traveling public, and others are less so. Some of these initiatives are: Monitoring vehicles near air terminals; discontinuing curbside check-in; requiring passengers to present their tickets or boarding passes at security checkpoints, and only permitting ticketed passengers beyond the security checkpoint; reducing access points to secure airports; reducing to an operational minimum the areas that people have to be in; increasing random security checks and ID checks through the entire terminal area; and as you mentioned also, requirements to revalidate all airport identification media, and also to check employees who have access to the secure areas against the FBI watch list. We have increased the number of uniformed and plainclothes security officers at the airports, and we are in the process of expanding the Federal Air Marshal Program. We are very grateful and have received tremendous cooperation from the Attorney General and the Justice Department in assisting us in getting access to Federal law enforcement officers who are now in training, and some have already started to fly as Federal Air Marshals in our system. Our second focus has been on restoring the system. We have done this in a very methodical and deliberate way, in close cooperation with the aviation community, with the law enforcement community, with the Department of Defense, and with all the airlines and airports. We are still in the process of bringing the aviation system back up. But we are going to be cautious and we are going to do it incrementally and in full coordination with the military. The coordination and the cooperation among all the parties involved has just been extraordinary. We will continue to work to restore the system to its full level of service. Security is now at unprecedented levels. And as we enter what is literally a new era of aviation, we are looking at ways to further improve security at our airports. As you know, the Secretary has created two rapid response teams to address airport and airline security and the very issues that were raised a few moments ago, as well as aircraft security and what we can do to further strengthen and harden and prevent access to the cockpit. The incidents on Tuesday, September 11, have caused all of us--airlines, airport operators, and public policymakers--to look very closely at the balance of responsibility for civil aviation security. In today's world, the threat assessment has changed. Security must change in response to that. I think the Secretary will soon provide recommendations, perhaps even before the October 1 date that he had established for the rapid response teams, recommendations to further improve security at our Nation's airports and on airplanes. In summary, we are focusing on four areas, just to repeat, if I could: First, to bring the air transportation system back to normal and restore public confidence; second, to expand the use of the Federal Air Marshal Program; third, to improve airport security, including the screening function; and, fourth, to improve cockpit security. I thank you for the opportunity to be here, and I will answer any questions. Senator Durbin. Thank you very much, Mr. Belger. Mr. Mead. TESTIMONY OF HON. KENNETH M. MEAD,\1\ INSPECTOR GENERAL, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION Mr. Mead. I, too, want to express our sorrow to the many families who have lost or are missing loved ones as a result of the terrorist attacks of nearly 2 weeks ago, and also to reinforce what everybody has been saying about the President, Secretary Mineta, the Congress, the controllers, law enforcement, and rescue relief workers, and the many people that have pulled together in this response effort. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Mead appears in the Appendix on page 74. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would like most of my statement to be forward looking. Everything everybody has said about the General Accounting Office and the Inspector General issuing reports and testifying many times on this subject is correct. As a matter of fact, it goes back nearly 15 years. I do think it is useful to overview what the different elements of security are that we will be talking about today. One, of course, is the passenger screening function that has received a great deal of attention. Another function is access to what they refer to as the sterile area or secure areas of the airport. The sterile area is the concourse area after you have been through passenger screening. The plane, too, is a sterile area when it is on the tarmac. A third element is screening checked and carry-on luggage. A fourth area is cargo that ends up in the cargo hold of the air plane. And the fifth area is the airport ID card system. I will be saying something briefly about each of these areas. I should also note that we have been involved in numerous criminal investigations over the past 2 or 3 years in aspects of aviation security, usually the falsification of airport identification, security screener training records and background checks. I will just give you two examples that I think illustrate a point. Most recently, a private security company was placed on 36 months probation and ordered to pay over $1 million in fines for failing to conduct background checks and falsifying training records on employee staffing security stations at a major U.S. airport. Also, I believe it was September 14, we arrested 12 non-U.S. citizens with INS, who had illegally obtained security badges necessary to gain admittance to secure areas at another U.S. airport. Chairman Lieberman. Those were employees or people just gaining access? Mr. Mead. Well, in this case they were non-U.S. citizens who illegally obtained security badges. But these types of violations actually fall into two categories. Sometimes you find people that have falsified their credentials to become an employee, but get an ID card that is legitimate in the sense that they are an employee. And then you have people that illegally obtain an airport ID card, and through the use of that ID card can obtain access to the secure areas of the airport. We have also detailed some members of the Inspector General's investigative staff to the Air Marshal Program. Before I proceed, I just want to make clear that the aviation security system is not foolproof. No security system ever will be, particularly when you add the element of people who are willing to die in the commission of their criminal schemes. And that is why I think it is important not to lose sight of what everybody is saying--that it is important to not only root the terrorism out, but also to concurrently build a strong aviation security system. Many of the efforts that Mr. Belger outlined have to do with restoring public confidence that has been badly damaged. I think Mr. Belger did a very good job of overviewing the measures, and there are more on the way. I think the Air Marshals' Program was very important, and the point you made about having law enforcement presence at the screening stations, I do think restores public confidence. I would like the remainder of my statement to focus on two areas. One is the governance of aviation security, how we go about delivering it in this country, and then I would like to proceed to some immediate areas I think we can consider to tighten up security.\1\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ Chart entitled ``Actions to Improve Aviation Security,'' submitted by Mr. Mead, appears in the Appendix on page 142. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Under our current system, FAA, which is charged with governing aviation security and its regulation, and the airlines and the airports which are charged with providing the security, I think themselves face priorities and missions that are different from security. Indeed, in some cases the security mission conflicts with another mission, and other times I think economic priorities get in the way. So given the scope and complexity of the security challenge as we know it now, and the long history of problems with this aviation security program, I think the time has come to vest governance of aviation security, as well as its delivery, in one Federal agency or possibly one not-for-profit Federal corporation or some combination of the two. But that entity would have a singular focus of security. That would be its profession. That would be its mission. It would not be in competition with other aviation businesses. And I think that is one way, a very effective way, of upgrading the training and the standards for these screeners, and imposing some strict controls over the issuance of airport ID cards. That cannot be done overnight, so now we have to turn to the task of what do we do now to immediately restore confidence? I would like to cover several areas. One has to do with the explosives detection machines and the use of them to screen checked luggage. In the past we have not been using them. Taxpayers have been spending about $1 million a copy on these machines. They are good machines, but we are not using them. They are sorely underused. I think FAA is going to change that in the coming weeks. Screening checkpoint security---- Chairman Lieberman. Forgive me. What do you mean they are not being used? Are they in a warehouse somewhere, or they are just at the location, but not being used enough? Mr. Mead. Actually, the situation is both. There are some in the warehouse that could be deployed, and there are some that are operational that are sorely underused. Why are they underused? Well, the FAA has set minimum standards for using the machines. The airlines can decide if they want to use them more. The airlines are concerned that the usage of these machines will result in delays. It is true it will take more time. These machines, Mr. Chairman, are much on the principle of a Cat Scan machine, but they detect explosives. They are greatly underused. I would rather not, in open session here, go into the numbers. I would be glad to share it with you later, but I think I can document the statement that they are sorely underused. Senator Durbin. I might just add there is such a machine at O'Hare. I was there several years ago when they bought it. I have seen it as I walk by many times. I do not know the criteria that they use to refer baggage or luggage for that inspection, but it is only used in specific instances. It is not part of the normal routine. Mr. Mead. I believe these machines--if you have seen them-- they are a powerful, very visible exemplar of security. A machine sitting idle is not a powerful exemplar of security. Plus, they work. On screening checkpoint security, I am not going to go over the performance. I think that has been amply demonstrated for the record. I would say though that it is important for FAA to issue the rule. The role which is about to be issued sets some standards on the certification of these screening companies. And they also need standards for measuring the screener performance. Now, what is acceptable? Is detecting a test object 6 out of 10 times, 8 out of 10, 9 out of 10 acceptable? And this is important because if screeners are having difficulty detecting objects that are pretty obvious like a test gun or a test grenade, it is even more difficult to detect a bomb, a test bomb that is. Airport access control. Several steps are needed here. What you outlined, what our work had found, and what GAO's work had found is accurate. I have four items on this area. The majority of the aircraft boardings we did would not have occurred if the employees had just challenged us and said, ``What are you doing here? You do not have any business being here.'' Just that one simple non-costly step. A second is technology. This is an area where I think FAA and the airports can mutually invest in cameras and anti- piggyback devices. Piggy-backing is where an authorized employee goes through the door, and an unauthorized one follows right behind. And there are devices that prevent that--cameras and various technological devices. A third is revalidating the ID cards, which FAA has announced. It is very important that we do an accurate accounting in who is authorized to have these ID cards. Finally, and I think a change in legislation will be necessary to do this too, we need to require criminal checks on all employees at commercial airports. Chairman Lieberman. Does that happen at all now, Mr. Mead? Mr. Mead. Yes, sir. For new employees at what they refer to as the Category X airports. They are the top 20 airports. They are required to do this with all new employees. The requirement does not apply to employees that were established employees. For airports other than those 20, they are not required to do a criminal check, including on the screeners, unless certain triggers are met, and I think that should change. I would imagine that in the current environment that could be changed fairly quickly. And finally, cargo security. I am not going to go into any details on this here, but we have recently completed some work on cargo security, and we are going to be briefing the Secretary and Mr. Belger and some others on the results of that soon. Thank you. Chairman Lieberman. Thank you, Mr. Mead. Dr. Dillingham from the General Accounting Office. thank you. TESTIMONY OF GERALD L. DILLINGHAM, Ph.D.,\1\ DIRECTOR, PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES, U.S. GENERAL ACCOUNTING OFFICE Dr. Dillingham. Thank you, Chairman Lieberman and Chairman Durbin. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Dr. Dillingham appears in the Appendix on page 87. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Although it is not fully known what actually occurred, or which of the weaknesses in our Nation's aviation security system contributed to the horrendous events that occurred on September 11, it is clear that serious weaknesses do exist and that their impact can be far more devastating than previously imagined. Today, I would like to offer some suggestions on what might be done to address some of the known system weaknesses. The focus of my testimony will be on preboard screening and securing the ramp area, reiterating some of the points that the IG has just made. First, based on the work that GAO and the IG has done for the Congress, I would like to say a little bit about what we do know about the system. We know that airport security is disbursed over several organizations with overlapping responsibilities including FAA, airports, and airlines. These organizations in turn may subdivide the responsibility even further, as is done with passenger screening. We do know that there may be multiple screening contractors in a single airport, each with perhaps different quality control standards. We do know that the screening contractor on duty is likely to be the one that submitted the lowest bid to the airline. We do know that as far back as the late 1970's, both FAA and the airlines characterized the performance or lack of performance of screening personnel as significant and alarming. Since that time the trend in screening performance has been a downward spiral. We also know that the extremely high turnover among screeners not only means that there are often few skilled and experienced screeners on the job, it also means that there are literally thousands of individuals out there that know an awful lot about how screening works or does not work. By and large, the efforts today to address this problem area have been largely ineffective and too slow in coming. A case in point is the promulgation of a rule to implement the provisions of the 1996 FAA Reauthorization Act that will establish a screening company certification program. The rule was scheduled for issuance later this month, more than 2\1/2\ years later than originally scheduled. We also know quite a bit about gaps in security related to the ramp area. We know that some airport operators do not properly account for IDs for employees who need to have access to secure areas, changes or have been terminated. We know that both the DOT, IG and GAO have been able to gain unauthorized access time and time again to the ramp and other secure areas. The IG investigators were able to go as far as to be seated on the aircraft and ready to take off. In the instance that was cited before, our special agents used counterfeit law enforcement badges and credentials to bypass security checkpoints at two airports, and to walk unescorted to the aircraft departure gates. And since those agents had been issued tickets and boarding passes, they could have potentially carried weapons, explosives or other dangerous objects onto the aircraft. Now, I would like to turn to some actions that could be considered to address some of what we do know about the system. I think it is only fair to say that FAA has begun to implement remedies for most of the problems that have been identified in access control and many other security areas. Although a significant amount of activity is currently underway, we believe that it is critical that a mechanism be put in place to insure that these activities are fully implemented in a timely fashion. Mr. Chairman, it may also be time to consider a different organizational structure for all aspects of airport security, or minimally, the preboarding screening operations. The preliminary findings of a study that we have underway for House Aviation Subcommittee identified four alternatives which are detailed in our written statement. In each alternative, FAA could continue to be responsible for regulating screening, overseeing performance and imposing penalties for poor performance. The first alternative is one in which the air carriers would continue to be responsible for conducting screening. This alternative assumes that FAA will implement the pending certification rule and the other elements of the Airport Security Improvement Act of 2000, which would enhance screener qualifications and training. A second alternative is one in which each airport authority would be responsible for screening. A third alternative is based on a new DOT agency with a headquarters and field structure, created to conduct a national screening program. It would be accountable to Congress through the annual appropriations and oversight process. And the fourth alternative is a new quasi-government corporation, also with a headquarters and field structure, created to conduct a national screening program. In this case Congress could use its latitude to combine government and private sector features as is done with Amtrak and TVA when they create such a corporation, and define how it will be held accountable and financed. Of course, there are pluses and minuses associated with each option, variations on the options, and perhaps other options that should be considered. We also recognize that no security system is 100 percent safe, but we are certain that there is a lot that can be done to improve the current situation. The GAO stands ready to continue to assist this Committee in this extraordinarily difficult challenge. Thank you. Senator Durbin. Thank you very much. I think that everyone agrees that before the flying public--the American passengers--are going to return to airplanes, they have to see something different. They have to walk into that airport and understand that it is not business as usual as it was September 10. I think some of those things are starting to take place, but some of them are very slow, some of them are not very visible. Mr. Belger, what do you think in terms of that visible change in airport security? What are the plans of the administration to make those visible changes that will really restore the confidence of the flying public? Mr. Belger. Well, sir, I think the most visible change would be more law enforcement presence. I think there are other visible changes just in the professional way that the screening check point is operated with more of a premium on thoroughness rather than speed. I think the attitude, the demeanor and the professionalism of the people doing the screening are visible to the traveler. I think those are things that can improve. Senator Durbin. How many screeners are we talking about? Do you have a round figure, a number that you can give us of people working at screening stations in airports across America? Mr. Belger. Yes, sir. The numbers that we have been able to gather are around 18,000 to 20,000. Senator Durbin. And that is just on the screening side of it? Mr. Belger. That is my understanding, yes, sir. Senator Durbin. That would not include baggage handlers or others? Mr. Belger. I think that is just the people on the front line that are visible to the public doing the screening. Senator Durbin. Now, would you agree that ramp security is also a major part of our effort? Mr. Belger. It might even be more important, given what happened on September 11. I mean we do not know what happened, but as was referred earlier, it is very possible that these items did not go through the screening check point. We do not know that yet, but security is so integral that you cannot just focus on one piece without focusing on the whole system. Senator Durbin. I think there was a newspaper report that after they did a thorough overhaul of one of the canceled flights, they found one of these box cutters or paper cutters in one of the seat cushions in one of the planes, and there is no telling whether a passenger brought it on board or it was planted at this point, but it obviously raises this question about ramp security and security of access to the plane. Now, when I asked the baggage handlers at O'Hare what is the starting salary, it is $8.50 an hour. I was surprised. I thought it would be higher since they are employees of the airlines, but that is the starting salary. After 5 years they can, I think, rise to $19 an hour which is a substantial improvement, but you consider what kind of employee is attracted to $8.50 an hour. Let me ask you also as well, if we are talking about ramp security, can you achieve ramp security without establishing a perimeter around the airport? Mr. Belger. Well, you have to have boundaries. Our whole airport security concept is built around the principle that the closer you are to the airplane, the more stringent and thorough the security procedures must be. As that perimeter broadens, the security procedures perhaps are less intensive than they are at the airplane. That is the principle we have used in airport security for 30 years. I think you have to define areas in which people are supposed to be and areas which they are not supposed to be, and you have to very clear procedures to determine who is supposed to be there and who is not, and what checks have to be done to allow people to be there. Senator Durbin. Even in the smallest airports in Illinois, it is a pretty big piece of real estate, and if you are going to allow someone to come across the meadow and across the cornfield and onto the runway and up to the plane, then you breach the security that you have in place around the terminal itself, and it strikes me that is one of the elements that is inescapable here, that there has to be some sort of perimeter security, a fence, some sort of monitoring camera, whatever it takes, to make sure that you know who is on that field and that they are supposed to be there. That is a big expense item we will talk about, I am sure, as we get into this as well. Someone mentioned the FBI watch list. Was that you, Mr. Belger? Mr. Belger. Yes. Senator Durbin. Did the FAA have access to the FBI watch list before September 11? Mr. Belger. We have access to the names that the FBI gives us of people that would be of interest to the aviation industry or to the carriers. We do not normally have access to the same watch list that the FBI might have. The FBI probably does not have the same larger list that INS or Customs might have. So FAA, which is not an intelligence organization, relies upon the FBI and others to tell us when there is someone that we ought to be cautious about or looking for. Senator Durbin. Attorney General Ashcroft testified this morning at another hearing, and we went into this with some questions. And it appears that there is not an integrated information network within our government, that if there is a concern about an individual being here illegally, for example, or being a danger to our country, that information is not necessarily shared with all of the appropriate law enforcement agencies that might come into contact with them, whether it is INS, the FAA, or the FBI for that matter. All of that information is not shared at this point, and that strikes me as another key element in avoiding another disaster. Mr. Belger. I think what you described is perhaps even an understatement. If we are to move, as has been suggested, to more Federal control of the screening and the ramp security at airports, I believe it will make it easier to consolidate and have access to the Federal databases that exist. Senator Durbin. Mr. Mead, and Dr. Dillingham as well, let me ask you about some of the options we have considered. I support federalizing. I believe that when I look at this and step back I can see that the types of federalizing we could discuss--but it strikes me that if we are going to have a national standard of national safety for every passenger, no matter where you are flying to and from in the United States, that it really is essential that we establish those standards here in Washington, and then work with them on a local basis to try to implement them. Mr. Mead, is that your feeling as well? Mr. Mead. I think you are absolutely on target, and I think those should be done expeditiously without delay. It is the only way in a system like ours, in contra distinction to Europe, where in a country like the Netherlands, it is easy to say the airport should run security, because you only have one or two airports. In this country we have at least 400 commercial airports, and 3,000 if you expand the net to cover general aviation. So you are right that you need consistent standards, consistent training, and consistent certification. Senator Durbin. Dr. Dillingham, what is your feeling on that? Dr. Dillingham. I think we need a change in the system. We certainly need to find a unified way to deal with aviation security. I am not sure what federalization means. We have been talking to a number of people and they have different definitions of what federalization means. So we think that it is more important to think about some of the criteria that might be important in selecting an alternative, and one of the criteria is indeed, to bring together this fragmented system under one roof; second, to make sure that the coordinating body has the authority for effective coordination of intelligence that you were talking about, data and intelligence sharing; and that it has some accountability to the Congress, as well as to make sure that there is an identified funding source for it. So the criteria we think will be the driving force rather than just federalization or nationalization, but clearly, the elements that you mentioned are important. Senator Durbin. I am just going to close, because my time is up here, with one illustration of the challenge here when it comes to small-town America. One of the cities I represent in Illinois, Quincy, Illinois, has a good airport and four commercial flights a day. And the obvious question is, if there are to be Federal employees or people with a Federal responsibility at that airport, is that practical? How would it work? What would they do? Who would they answer to? How many would be necessary? So at a large airport, O'Hare, Midway, or St. Louis- Lambert, you can see this in the context of thousands of people coming every single day, but in a small town, whether it is Aberdeen, South Dakota, which Senator Daschle mentioned at a meeting this morning, or Quincy, Illinois, it does create a different type of challenge and raises a question as to whether or not there could be a delegation, either through the airlines or to local law enforcement, or to some other entity we are not even discussing here at this moment. I am open to that, but I think establishing the Federal standard, making certain that in the large context, the large environment of the airports, that we have the Federal presence and visibility as an essential part of restoring confidence. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Lieberman. Thank you, Senator Durbin, thanks very much. Mr. Mead, I want to just comment on something you said. You were very respectful in your language, but I do think you make an important point here as we think about what to do next in terms of providing more airport security, which is we have previously given that responsibility largely to the airlines, the responsibility for providing security. As you said, graciously, I think, but directly, that responsibility for security has very often yielded to other goals, including profitability, or customer convenience. And the result has been that security in the airline industry has been less than it should have been, which is, I gather, the major reason why you are now suggesting whichever form we choose, that we take the security function for the airline industry away from the industry, and put it either in the government or in some quasi- public nonprofit organization which is solely focused on security, in one sense, regardless of the cost because it is that important. Is that correct? Mr. Mead. Yes, sir, it is. You know, I wonder if we all reflect back on the different rules in aviation security that have been proposed over the years, when that cost benefit analysis is done to support that rule and the rule is sent back for further cost benefit analysis, if in light of the events of September 11, the cost benefit analysis that we would use today would be materially different than the ones we have used heretofore. Chairman Lieberman. That is a very powerful point. In other words, none of us can sit here and say that we could have prevented what happened on September 11. I do think if security had been higher, we could have made it a lot harder to do it, but the normal economic calculus, when set against the vast damage that the attacks on September 11 did to people, people's lives, hard to calculate, impossible to calculate ultimately. But also, more subject to being calculated, the extraordinary adverse impact on our economy, not to mention just direct dollar loss. It is a good point. Mr. Belger, I actually want to ask you about that in terms of the health of the airline industry and our shared desire to get it going again. My impression on Sunday, when I was in Dulles, Newark, and JFK, was that they were a lot quieter than they normally are. The planes I was on were a quarter to a half full. Does the FAA at this point have any statistics as to what the rate of occupancy, if I can put it that way, or usage of the airline industry is now, 2 weeks after the attacks? Mr. Belger. We have data on the number of flights. I think Mr. Baker from American Airlines is on the next panel, and it would probably be better for him to speak for the industry on the load factors. We generally just get that information anecdotally. In terms of flights, we are operating at about 90, 92 percent in our air traffic control centers based upon an average day last year. A lot of that is military operations right now, but the number of flights in the system for the air carriers is probably--and Mr. Baker could confirm this--but probably in the 65, 70 percent range of what they operated before September 11. Chairman Lieberman. This is the number of flights taking off or the extent to which they are full, the planes? Mr. Belger. The number of flights. Chairman Lieberman. Do you have any anecdotal evidence about the extent to which the airline seats are being taken now? Mr. Belger. I would really ask that perhaps someone from the airlines validate this--but I have been told that the load factors are in the 55, 60 percent, some lower, some higher, but that is kind of an average. Chairman Lieberman. And normal would be what? Mr. Belger. Oh, I think they were averaging in the high 70's, low 80's before September 11. Chairman Lieberman. So we are still down. We are all hearing, we talked about this, our colleague, Senator Durbin said it, that confidence is returning but we have to do as much as we can visibly to get back the public's confidence and get the airline industry up to where it was before. In that regard some people have suggested that we put a visible or a covert marshal on every flight. And wonder whether you have ever calculated, thinking about what Mr. Mead just said about costs as compared to benefits, what that might cost and whether it is within the range of the feasible. It is certainly one very tangible way to say to people on every flight there is going to be a marshal armed; that is some reason for you to feel secure. Mr. Belger. Well, we are absolutely looking at that, sir. We have increased the size of the Federal Air Marshal Program significantly, but we do not, obviously, now have the resources to put an Air Marshal on every flight. There are about 7,000 commercial aircraft used daily. About 35,000 to 39,000 departures, commercial air carrier departures every day. But even if you just looked at the number of airplanes and assume a Federal Air Marshal can fly all day on one of those aircraft, and if you assume they work as a team of two, that is 14,000 people. So that is absolutely an option we are looking at and we are looking at what we can do short of that also. Chairman Lieberman. I do not want to ask you the question because I am worried about the answer, about how many Air Marshals we have now, because I fear it might be lower than I would like anybody to think. Mr. Belger. We have tried not to talk about that publicly, but I will be glad to privately. Chairman Lieberman. Fine. Let me pick up on a line of questioning that Senator Durbin began about the sharing of intelligence information. Did the FAA in fact have from the FBI the names of those two individuals on the watch list that we now believe, or know, were involved in the hijackings and the air attacks on September 11? Mr. Belger. No, sir, we did not have those names. Chairman Lieberman. So that was--they were not conveyed for some reason to the FAA? Mr. Belger. Right. Chairman Lieberman. And therefore, when you said before that the FBI shares information with the FAA, it would not necessarily be in the category of those who are on a watch list because they may have been associated with a terrorist organization? Mr. Belger. Well, I cannot speak for the FBI, obviously, and perhaps this is a discussion we ought to have more thoroughly in a closed session, but basically the way it works is that the FBI provides to our intelligence unit in our security organization, the names of people that they have determined to be either a potential threat, or that might pose some danger if they were flying. We give those names to the airlines. They check those names against their reservation systems. Chairman Lieberman. Do you know what categories the FBI turns over to you? In other words, what would be the basis of them deciding they should give this to the FAA? Mr. Belger. Well, again, I think they would have to speak to the process they go through, but as I said before, the FAA is not an intelligence-gathering organization and we rely on-- and I do not mean that defensively. Chairman Lieberman. Understood. Mr. Belger. We work very closely with them. We have, I think, a very good day-to-day working relationship with the FBI and other intelligence agencies. But I think the main point here, if I could, I think the fundamental point is the point that Chairman Durbin raised a minute ago. I think there is much more we can do to provide the people responsible for screening and airport security with better access to a larger database that is now---- Chairman Lieberman. Let me just pursue this. What do the airlines do now, what does the FAA do now with names that they get from the FBI on a watch list? Mr. Belger. We provide those names to the carriers in the form of a security directive or security alert, and the airlines look for those names on the---- Chairman Lieberman. Those names on a manifest of the passengers on a flight. So, obviously, if the manifest did not reveal the identities of the individuals, they were using false names, there would be no match at that point. Mr. Belger. That is correct. Chairman Lieberman. Should the FAA now be looking at deploying technology such as fingerprinting or biometrics or other identification methods to identify passengers? Is that worth pursuing at this point? Mr. Belger. Absolutely it is. One of the teams that the Secretary set up is looking at airport security. One of the things they are looking at very closely is the use of biometric screening systems, whether it be facial recognition, fingerprint recognition, hand geometry recognition. San Francisco Airport uses, today--and it might be the only airport, at least the only one I am aware of--uses a hand geometry type of recognition system, and it appears to be working. I think facial recognition is also a very promising technology. Chairman Lieberman. Thank you. I appreciate it. Obviously, I am quite surprised that the two individuals', who were involved in the attacks, names were not communicated to the FAA, and we should ask the FBI why that did not happen but I appreciate that you are now very aggressively pursuing other means of raising the guard and protecting passengers, and I think the sooner we move forward on that, the better. Thank you. Senator Durbin. Senator Voinovich. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR VOINOVICH Senator Voinovich. I would like to thank the Chairmen of the Committee and the Subcommittee for holding this hearing. I apologize for not being here, but I stopped into the briefing by the Secretary of State, and our Defense Secretary. The issue of airline security has been highlighted, not only by the tragedies that we had in New York and here in Washington, but it has also brought to our attention the enormous impact the airline industry has on our economy, and I think of our being so penny wise and pound foolish, and how we often make representations. For example, securing our airports, and we do not dot the i's and cross the t's. We say we are doing it, but in fact, we are not doing it. And I think that we are at the point right now where we realize how important it is that we have the kind of security that we need to have. If anyone looked at the statistics on the turnover of employees, you would know there had to be something wrong in this country. Atlanta, Hartsfield, 375 percent annual turnover rate. Chicago O'Hare, Senator Durbin, 200 percent in Chicago. Denver, another big airport, 193 percent. Houston, 237 percent. St. Louis-Lambert, 416 percent turnover rate. Someone should have read those statistics, and it should have sent a signal out to them that something was awfully wrong. We are grappling about how we are going to get our security job taken care of, and Dr. Dillingham, in your testimony you talked about a report of 102 countries with international airports, 100 have placed the airport security responsibility with the airports or the government, and the other two, Canada and Bermuda, have placed responsibility with the air carriers. The question I would like to ask you, from your observations, is there any difference between the security that is being provided in those that are run by the government and those run by the carriers, or is there not any perceptible difference? And then I would like all of you to comment on something that seems to be obvious, that we do have some airports in this world that are secure. I have been to Israel many times, and I can tell you there is security in Israel. I have been to Frankfurt. I can tell you, there is security at Frankfurt. And it seems to me that if we are looking around to try and figure out how to best deal with airport security, that my best judgment always has been to go someplace where you have the best practices and see what they do, and then figure out how they are getting it done, and maybe that is a good model for us to follow. So I would be interested, Dr. Dillingham, in your response to whatever security is different depending on who controls the airport? And second of all, your comments about whether or not all of you think that maybe what they are doing in Israel or in Frankfurt or some other places, where the security is more secure, is something we should look into. Dr. Dillingham. Dr. Dillingham. Yes, sir. Most countries keep very close to the chest their performance statistics in terms of how well the screeners perform. What we have found is that in most of the countries, the turnover rate is considerably lower, and with that lower turnover rate, you do get more experienced screeners on the job. And you have to consider the fact that in some of these other countries, there is a much smaller system that they are dealing with, and even if it is controlled by the airport, oftentimes it is supplemented by having visible security, or armed forces or armed guards around as well. The only information that we have about performance indicates where there was a test, a joint test between the United States and another country. The other country performed twice as well as we did in the screener performance area. Mr. Mead. I would like to make a comment about the airport situation overseas. It is plausible that the approach would work here if we had one airport, or two airports or three. In Europe, where you do tend to find a situation where the airport authority is responsible, and as Dr. Dillingham says, it is supplemented by the government, but there are fewer airports that they are responsible for. Here we have 400 different airports, and one of our objectives now is a consistently higher standard of security, no patchwork quilts. That is one point. And second, the airlines' relationships to airports in this country are usually quite different from those in Europe. In this country the airlines frequently have a vested financial interest in, for example, gates, terminals at the airport, through ownership or long-term leases. And the airlines have quite a bit to say about the delivery of services by that airport. Mr. Belger. I began my FAA career 30 years ago as a security inspector, so I have had a lot of jobs since then. I have seen our performance and I have seen Europe's from a variety of different perspectives. We have thought in this country for many years that the threat was different in other parts of the world than it was here. And I believe that is why we have seen, particularly in Europe and other parts of the world, the performance and the visibility of armed guards, etc., to be much higher than we have seen here. And in Frankfurt, for example, a lot of what you see as additional security is a result of requirements that we have put on our carriers who are flying out of those airports. We have to, in this country, I believe now, really step back and reassess all of the basic principles that we have used in determining responsibilities for aviation security. We have to completely reassess those. What we thought might have been completely unworkable 2 weeks ago are things that we have to really consider today. Senator Voinovich. Are there security screening lessons that you get from Europeans in terms of technology they use and procedures they follow that would be relevant here? Mr. Belger. Well, from a technology standpoint, I am pretty comfortable that our security folks know all the technology that is available, and we have the wherewithal to test it and use it to the extent we can. Procedures, I think, is where we could learn a lot. As I said earlier, the premium ought to be on thoroughness rather than speed. The premium ought to be on professional, thorough dedicated people, working at the screening points and throughout the airport environment. And I think that is where we could perhaps learn, Senator. Senator Voinovich. It is also a question of cost. If it is the cost to the airlines, then it affects their bottom line. In the event that we decide to really make a commitment to security--which means we are going to have to spend some money--that the Federal Government is going to have to spend it or the people who use the airlines will have to pay. The issue would be who ought to pay for it? Should the people that use airports pay for it, or should our Federal Government, or should there be a combination thereof? And the issue again is if they have it, and the money is not segregated into a pot and it is on their bottom line, I think the tendency will be to go on the cheap because it is affecting their profit situation. Mr. Belger. Well, the airlines have had the responsibility for about 30 years, and they had it actually through legislation which requires that the screening be done by the carrier or an agent of the carrier, and it has not worked to the satisfaction of a lot of us, so we need to do something different. If that means the Federal Government has to figure out how to pay for it, then that is what we would like to work with you to figure out. Senator Voinovich. Any of the other witnesses want to comment on that? Mr. Mead. I think your point about paying is very important. I know you are very familiar with the Highway Trust Fund and the Aviation Trust Fund, the history of those. If this is going to cost money, I think the American public is willing to pay that money, but I do think that they would expect that if they are going to pay it and have it denominated as a security fee or something along those lines, that they would be outraged if it went to some other purpose. Dr. Dillingham. Just as a sort of general overall point, whatever the Nation decides to do about aviation security, it is very important that the energy that is associated with it now not go away as the crisis recedes in our memory. We have had aviation tragedies before, certainly not to this degree, but not too long afterwards, the interest and the oversight starts to become less, and we are back in front of you again, telling you that things have not changed. So whatever is decided, there needs to be clearly much more stringent oversight to make sure that it happens. Senator Durbin. Thank you, Senator. It strikes me that there are actually two contacts that every passenger runs into when they get on an airplane in America related to security. We focused almost exclusively, when it comes to the passenger side, on one, the screening. The second contact comes at the ticket counter when the questions are asked, questions, ``Did you pack this bag and has it been out of your control?'' ``No.'' ``Has any stranger given you something to carry on the plane?'' ``No.'' I am just kind of curious, always have been, how many people answer yes to those questions. I doubt very many. But going to the point that Senator Voinovich made, when you go through an international airport like Frankfurt, you are engaged in a conversation with someone, maybe with more than one person, and it is not limited to two routine questions with routine answers. And it struck me that what they were looking for was not just the response to the questions, but my body language and whether I looked nervous, or whether I was somebody suspicious that they wanted to push along to somebody else to take a closer look at. I think that is a best practice, Senator Voinovich, that I have seen in the airports around the world that are very concerned about security. Now, I think the premise of the two questions that we ask at all American airports is the following: No one would knowingly get on a plane carrying a bomb. If I packed my own bag and it has been under my control, then I am not bringing one on and I did not take an object from someone. That premise exploded four times on September 11. So the question I want to ask you, Mr. Belger, and the other witnesses to respond to, is whether there is any point to continue to ask those questions? Should we be looking at some other kinds of questions or some other type of interrogation so that we really try to get to the heart of this question about whether someone suspicious is getting on an airplane? Mr. Belger. I definitely think we ought to rethink all of our procedures in light of what happened, including the asking of those questions. Even some of our concepts--well without getting into details, many of our concepts have been built upon the premise that an individual would not get on the airplane with a bomb, would not commit suicide. That is clearly, clearly no longer a valid principle. And when I answered the question earlier about what we could learn from procedures, that is what I was thinking about. The fact is, in many airports in the world, speed is second to thoroughness and doing it right. Senator Durbin. Mr. Mead or Dr. Dillingham, any comment about the interrogation at the airport? Mr. Mead. You probably know if you have been on an international flight, you also get asked a series of other questions. I think, as Mr. Belger points out, profiling, which is used as a trigger for various things in the aviation system, as well as that set of questions, needs to be revisited. The profiles were based on a certain set of premises, which are no longer adequate. So they need to be revisited. And I think if you wanted to discuss elements of profiles, that is something we would be doing in closed session. Senator Durbin. Thank you. Dr. Dillingham. Yes, sir. I agree with what Mr. Belger said, and I think that not only do we need to revise and enhance that procedure, the questioning procedure, more toward the discussion that you referred to, we have to insure that the people who are asking those questions are capable of more than accepting the answers. In other words, you have got to look for body language, you have got to be able to make some other determination besides what people say yes or no to whatever the conversation is. And I think just adding to what the IG said, we do have a computer profiling system in place, and I agree 100 percent we need to revise that, as it needs to be connected with additional criteria, and at the same time, perhaps linked to the screening function, because as it currently works, you could be picked as a profile person and still not be stopped at the screening and have your hand luggage checked because the profiling refers to looking at checked bags. So we have things in place that we can enhance and make an immediate impact at that level of security. Senator Durbin. Thank you. Senator Lieberman and then Senator Thompson. Chairman Lieberman. Thanks, Senator Durbin. You know, Mr. Mead, you said something I want to draw on because it makes the point that I think Mr. Belger made before about how we have to rethink airline security generally. It is a fact, is it not, that passengers are subjected to a higher level of security review going on an international flight than they are on a domestic flight? Mr. Mead. Yes. Chairman Lieberman. And of course, one of the painful--and that is based, I presume, on the previous higher tendency of what we used to know as hijacking or planting of bombs on a plane, on international flights rather than domestic ones. Mr. Mead. Yes. Chairman Lieberman. It leads me to the general point, you know some people have gone so far as to say, ``Well, the terrorists struck the airline industry now. They will not strike there next time.'' We do not know that, and we have to therefore raise our guard. I appreciate what you said, Mr. Belger, and I think it is important that we all focus on this, that as much as we have to raise our guard to protect against the kinds of insane acts that occurred on September 11, it is also critical--and this builds on the war metaphor that we are all using, the war against terrorism--that we not just protect ourselves or prepare ourselves to fight the last battle, which was flying planes into buildings, that we have got to think, if you will, like the terrorists think, and then defend ourselves against what would be next, because the airline security question basically, as the last question we talked about, has been geared in general terms to hijackings, and at another level of taking a bomb onto a plane. Nobody ever, because in some ways we are too sane and humane, considered the possibility that somebody might get on the plane and commandeer it and fly it into a populated building. Is that kind of review going on now? Mr. Belger. Yes, sir. I absolutely know firsthand that Secretary Mineta and the folks in the Department and the FAA are even thinking beyond aviation for the future, and I think we must. Chairman Lieberman. Into other transportation forms? Mr. Belger. Other transportation modes, yes, sir. Chairman Lieberman. Very important, because I think all of us are thinking that way. Ridership on trains has gone up, and yet people I know who get on trains, and I have been on a few in the last couple of weeks, have a higher level of anxiety there, too, than they had before, so I appreciate that. Mr. Mead. I think the point that you made is very important about the multi-modal aspect of this, and I think the solution on what to do with the security function ought to consider that, stop and think about it in a transit system, many of which interconnect with airports. In San Francisco the BART system is going to stop in front of the international terminal. The people that are going to the airport often take both their checked and carry-on luggage with them right into the terminal, or right into the transit station, and what is to stop them from leaving it there? Chairman Lieberman. Right. Mr. Mead. So I am hopeful that one of the things that comes out of this is a multi-modal consideration of security. Chairman Lieberman. Me too, I hope so. Just a final question, Mr. Belger. We referred to those regulations and rule makings that are going on regarding the screeners receiving more training and the contractors who hire them being certified or certificated. It may be too late in a way now. It may be that there is a rush and a movement that is quite strong to move toward federalizing that function and airport security generally. But nonetheless, that is not a foregone conclusion, and I wanted to ask you when you expect that rule will become final, and to the extent you are able, what changes would the rule make in the standards for selecting screening contractors and training, because it is possible for those who may be skeptical about turning this function over to the government, that a more demanding series of requirements would make that alternative worth considering. Mr. Belger. Right. We are ready to issue the rule. It has been cleared through all the processes. We have made the decision not to issue it right now until we complete the work with the Secretary on the types of recommendations he wants to make. And you are absolutely right, that some of the certification criteria that we had thought of previously in the rule probably ought to be stronger now, even if we continue with some type of non-Federal screening operation. The types of things that are in the rule now that you ask about would require the screening company to be certified by the FAA. They would basically have to have a security program along the same principles that airports and air carriers have. They would have to have programs approved by the FAA that would speak to how they would hire, train, and test their people, and we would set performance standards that the actual screeners would have to meet. One of the problems we had in getting this rule out sooner, was the fact that there was no real objective way to test the performance of the screeners other than to test objects that our inspectors use, which really is not a good real-world way to test. So we started with the rule making back in 1997 and came to the conclusion that we really did not have a good way to objectively measure the performance of the screeners. About that time we were developing what we call the threat image projection system, which superimposes on the x-ray machine the image of a real weapon. You can do that in a very sophisticated way with perhaps thousands of different images that could pop up at any time, and actually test the screener in a real-world environment. There are many hundreds of those systems available throughout the country. So once we thought we had developed an objective way to test people, then we went forward with the rule making again, and that is where we are now. Chairman Lieberman. I appreciate that. Let me just share this personal experience and point of view. It seems to me-- somebody mentioned before about the police presence in the airports now, and that is encouraging. On the other hand, the most encouraging and reassuring aspect of the air travel I have done since this occurred was not so much seeing people there but noting what they were doing. Mr. Belger. Right. Chairman Lieberman. And this is not rocket science, so the very same screeners who we have been very skeptical of, that we are all talking about, when I went through the screening device at Dulles on Sunday, they asked me and every other passenger to put the arms out and they put the mobile screening device over and picked up every credit card and every single item that even might have been--I had a key in one pocket, etc. As I said before, it was inconvenient in one sense, but that made me feel really comfortable as I went on. And the passengers, as we went in the van over to the other terminal to get on the plane, were talking about it, and one man told me that they had found a nail clipper in his pocket and took it from him. And that made us all more comfortable, too. So I do think as we go forward it is not only important who does this screening and other airport security, but what they do that will make us comfortable enough to all get back on the airplanes. Thank you very much. Senator Durbin. Senator Thompson. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR THOMPSON Senator Thompson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was looking over this GAO report, which, if there is anything in here I shouldn't get into, stop me in a hurry. I think all of this you have put in your statement. The conclusion seems to be that the report consider that the problem with security is not as much with equipment as it is with personnel, and I am sure we have all talked about the fact that our first line of defense is in some cases a minimum wage employee. The FAA's testing has shown that over the years their ability to do their job in screening has gone downhill, apparently. They are not doing as good a job as they used to do. Is that a fair assessment? Dr. Dillingham. Yes, sir. Senator Thompson. Without getting into any more detail than that--and it seems to me that it is indicative of a larger problem that this Committee has dealt with for a long time. Senator Voinovich has certainly dealt with it specifically. And it has to do with the basic management problems that government has, and it specifically has to do with what we call the human capital problem. We are surprised now, not all of us, that we realize that we have people placed in strategic positions who are not particularly well qualified and who are not performing according to our level of expectation. The Results Act, of course, requires every department to come up with performance reports, and develop standards they are supposed to achieve. The DOT did not meet its certain screening goals for fiscal year 2000 and is on track not to meet those goals again this year. In other words, the Department of Transportation has been good in setting out appropriate goals, but the carrying out, their ability to achieve those goals has not been good. We are not achieving the goals that were set out, and it is endemic throughout government. There are places throughout government that are very sensitive, secure, security-conscious positions where we are not meeting our performance standards, our performance goals. And we continue to do that year after year after year after year. We have a high-risk list that most departments, many have been on it for years and years, and they come in here and we fuss on them a little bit, and they go and do the same thing next year. It is not affected by budget, it is not affected by any administration, it is not affected by the appropriations process. The last day I was Chairman of this Committee--I never will forget it. [Laughter.] Chairman Lieberman. Sad day for some. Senator Thompson. We put out a little booklet called ``Government at the Brink,'' and it talked about some of those things, the mismanagement throughout government. We hear it so often, it rolls off our back. But we really need to take another look at it in terms of these national security issues now while we have a heightened sense of awareness. Specifically, the financial mismanagement, has the inability to incorporate information technology into the government services the way that they have in the private sector, the billions of dollars we have spent on trying to get our computers right. I was looking at page 16, and one of the conclusions we came to: The Defense Department's security clearance process virtually collapsed during the 1990's. The Department has a backlog of almost a half million security clearance investigations for employees. The security clearance situation has become a little more relevant lately. It takes well over a year to complete a top secret clearance. This means that vital positions dealing with the government's most sensitive national security data go unfilled, or the people in those positions operate with grossly outdated clearances. These problems stem in part from productivity problems among investigators and ill- conceived staff cuts. We also talk about our difficulties with our computer systems. Again, brand-new relevance in light of September 11. On page 51, we deal with the case of the railway killer. In 1995, the INS began to work to improve its automated systems which were grossly inadequate. According to the IG, the program areas that they set up were mismanaged from the very beginning. The IG reported that the INS still cannot sufficiently track the status of its projects to determine whether progress is acceptable. Also, INS staff were unable to adequately explain how the funds were spent. In addition, explain how these deficiencies led to tragic human consequences in the case of Rafael Menendez Ramirez, a Mexican national who has an extensive criminal record and is accused of committing several murders in the United States. In early 1999, Houston police contacted INS investigators several times seeking assistance in the search for Menendez. In June 1999, the FBI formed a multi-agency task force in Houston to capture him and also placed him on a list of the ten most wanted. Unfortunately, if the INS had done its job, these events never would have occurred because Menendez had been apprehended by the Border Patrol seven times in 1998 while crossing the border illegally and had been enrolled in the computer system each time and had been returned voluntarily to Mexico each time without formal proceedings. I could go on and on and on and on. Why we are surprised that we have a problem with screening and airport security should really be what surprises us. And we really need--and this is not just an opportunity to talk about waste, fraud, and abuse again in general terms. These are security, national security issues. We have talked about our laboratories, how vulnerable our labs are in many different respects. Now we know about our airports. The whole terrorist issue now has a special relevance in light of September 11 with regard to immigration issues. That in turn has to do with our inability to manage computer systems or information technology. It is all part of the same picture and is, once again, indicative of gross mismanagement in the Federal Government for many, many years, in the financial area, information technology area, human capital area, and other things. Now we are talking about federalizing another part of our system. I know you probably discussed that. I won't get into that in any detail here. I am really not sure how I feel about that except to say that we must make sure we don't incorporate all the other Federal Government employee potential problems, and that is, we don't properly motivate them, we are losing the ones we ought to be keeping sometimes, we oftentimes keep the ones we ought to be losing. We have a civil service system that makes it so there cannot be accountability most of the time. All of those government management issues that we have swept under the rug for so long are right back on the table again if we are going to go down this road and consider moving in that direction. So thank you, Mr. Chairman, for having this hearing and allowing me to make this statement. Senator Durbin. Thank you, Senator Thompson. Senator Voinovich. Senator Voinovich. I would like to build on what Senator Thompson said. As you know, I have been working for 2 years on the problem of the human capital crisis and will be introducing legislation soon. We can talk all we want to about getting qualified people, but we are in deep trouble right now in the Federal Government. In fact, by the year 2005, we could lose 80 percent of our Senior Executive Service. By the year 2004, we could lose about 55 percent of all of our employees, through either retirement or early retirement. If we are going to go out and try and recruit these people, we know we are going to have to pay a lot more money for them. By the way, you were talking about the demeanor of people. When you look at some of the people at the security, they give you absolutely no confidence. And if you have a conversation with them, you just wonder. At BWI, I had my Senate identification card. The woman there looks at it, the first one I went through, and it was fine. I go through and I was detected for having some metal. And I knew what it was. I have steel in my shoes. And I said, ``I have steel in my shoes,'' and I try--that is why I bought the Rockports, because I don't have to worry about getting stopped. But I showed her my card that I was a U.S. Senator, and she looked at me with a blind stare like she didn't even know what a U.S. Senator was. And that is the kind, too often, of impression that you get from the people that are doing the security. And that in itself doesn't give one very much confidence. It means that you are going to have to upgrade the people that you hire. You are going to have to pay them a lot more money. You are going to have to motivate them, and you got to have a system in order to get them into the government. Of the agencies in the Federal Government, the only one that has flexibility right now besides the GAO and the IRS is the FAA. The FAA has got the flexibility to bring in people at different pay grades and broad-banding and a lot of the other things. So if we are going to pick an agency that could get going quickly, if we decide to federalize this thing, the agency that we ought to select is the FAA because they have the flexibility to go out and hire these people to get the job done. Senator Thompson, I am glad that you brought that up because we have neglected the human capital issue in this government for years and years, and I want to quote Jim Schlesinger, who testified in March before this Committee. He said solving the personnel problem is a precondition to solving all that is wrong in the U.S. national security edifice. All that is wrong. The precondition is the personnel problem. And it never really gets much attention in the Legislative Branch of government because I don't think that too often legislators appreciate how important it is that if you want to win, you have to have the best and the brightest. And we are not getting the best and the brightest in the Federal Government. Senator Durbin. Thank you, Senator. Senator Thompson. Excuse me, Mr. Chairman. With your indulgence for just a second on that point, I would point out the Hart-Rudman Commission on National Security reports that the United States is ``on the brink of an unprecedented crisis of competence in Government'' that reaches civilian and military personnel at all levels. That is the much touted, and properly so, Hart-Rudman Commission report that we have been talking about lately. Senator Durbin. Senator Lieberman. Chairman Lieberman. Senator Durbin, very briefly, there has not been much to smile about in the last couple of weeks, but if I may make a vain attempt by reporting this conversation--I was thinking about it when we were talking about the profiling that we expect people at the screening sections to do. I think we are going to find that the citizenry will be doing a lot of its own profiling, and it may lead to more socialization on the aircraft. One of our colleagues--Senator Breaux and I were talking about this. We both had the same experience in the times we have been on a plane since this awful incident occurred. We find we are turning to the people to either side of us, ``Hello, how are you? Where are you from?'' [Laughter.] ``What do you do? Why are you going to where we are going?'' Anyway, thank you. Senator Thompson. I can understand why they do it with Senator Breaux. Chairman Lieberman. No, Senator Breaux was doing it. Senator Thompson. Oh, I see. All right. Senator Durbin. I just want to comment in general. Thirteen years ago, when I introduced the bill banning smoking on airplanes, I learned something interesting about Congress. Next to politics, there is only one other thing that the Members of Congress know more about, and that is flying. Senator Thompson. That is true. Senator Durbin. And now that we talk about airports and airport security, each of us has probably logged as many miles or more than anybody in the room, and I think that is the reason why some of these questions are heartfelt but also get into detail. I thank this panel for your excellent presentation today. We really hope that we can use this information to develop some good legislation. Thank you very much. Chairman Lieberman. Thank you. Senator Durbin. The next panel I would like to ask to come forward includes Robert Baker, who is Vice Chairman of American Airlines; Paul Busick, President and Executive Director of North Carolina Global TransPark; Colonel Leonard Griggs, an old friend and Airport Director from Lambert-St. Louis International Airport; Bill Harvey, Jr., not only Trainer of the Screeners at Chicago O'Hare International Airport, but if I am not mistaken, Mr. Harvey was 1999's Screener of the Year. Glad to have you with us. And Michael La Pier, Executive Director from the Central Illinois Regional Airport. Once everybody is in place, we will let Mr. Baker start with the testimony, and we will go right down the table in the order you are seated. Thank you very much for being here. TESTIMONY OF ROBERT W. BAKER,\1\ VICE CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN AIRLINES Mr. Baker. Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and Members of the Committee. Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Baker appears in the Appendix on page 105. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Before I begin my remarks on the subject, on behalf of all of the American Airlines family we would certainly like to extend our deep sympathies and concern for the families of the crew members, our passengers, and certainly all of the victims on the ground of this terrible tragedy. I would also like to thank Secretary Mineta, Administrator Garvey, and her entire team for their responsiveness beginning that terrible Tuesday morning. It has been outstanding. It has been a real collaborative effort between the airlines and the FAA to find the best choices and get through this and hopefully get the system restored. Finally, the work of Congress last week and the airline stabilization plan is outstanding, and we thank you very much for your contributions to that effort. But now we must turn our attention to the security issues that surround our industry and make some decisions about changes that are in order. But I very much appreciate the opportunity to testify today regarding the Federal Government's role in addressing aircraft and airport security issues. September 11 has changed world aviation forever. We can only speculate on the precise changes that will result from this horrible event. However, I think there are two very broad directions that we must pursue promptly to preserve our air transportation system. First, we must decide on specific changes to airline and aviation security operations that will provide a higher level of deterrence and make it much more difficult for terrorists to repeat the horrible attacks on our country. Second, we must make those changes which will provide confidence in our aviation system to both the traveling public and our employees. If we do not restore confidence in aviation, we will not as airlines be able to restore operations, and the American public will not be willing to travel by air. This would obviously have profound impacts on our industry and the U.S. economy since there is really no practical alternative mode for most inter- city travel in our very large geographical country. A week ago Sunday, Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta announced the formation of two rapid response task forces to provide recommendations in two areas: Aircraft security and airport security. I was honored to be asked to participate in this effort. For the last week, we have been gathering input, examining alternatives, and establishing priorities. We are committed to provide the Secretary with recommendations not later than October 1, and we will meet that objective. I anticipate both short-term and longer-term recommendations. Let me briefly discuss two of the subjects being dealt with by these rapid response task forces. Both of these projects enhance aviation security and also have a positive impact on the confidence of our employees and the traveling public. One of our focus areas is the hardening of the cockpit to prevent terrorist entry. This will likely involve modifications to aircraft bulkheads and doors and the adoption of procedures to reduce the exposure when the cockpit door must be opened in flight. We are processing close to 100 individual ideas and suggestions in this area. The second area that is receiving a lot of interest and attention is the airport security checkpoint. You often hear about the federalization of the checkpoint. The airlines have said for many years that the operation of the checkpoint should not be the responsibility of the airlines. If you look outside the United States, other countries typically both operate and fund all aviation security activities. I believe that making material changes in the checkpoint operation represents an important opportunity to both enhance security and improve public confidence. There is an approach which I believe makes sense and should be debated. I believe that there are really three security functions that we are going to need going forward: First, a high-caliber, professionally operated checkpoint that deters the unfavorable person, that is run professionally, a system that restores passenger confidence most of all; Second, the deployment of a sky marshal function on board domestic aircraft; Third, an ongoing surveillance and audit process to ensure that the security procedures and policies are adhered to by the airlines, the airports, and all of the various vendors that do business at our airports. These functions could be combined and performed by a government-owned corporation made up mostly of law enforcement officers. Now, in response to your first two inquiries regarding the airlines' role in screening passengers and baggage, each airline is required to conduct screening in accordance with the procedures, facilities, and equipment described in its FAA- approved air carrier security program. The program is designed to prevent or deter the carriage of an explosive, incendiary, or a deadly or dangerous weapon on a passenger or in their checked or carry-on luggage. The specifics of the program are considered to be confidential by the FAA. But, generally, the program uses various X-ray machines, explosive trace detection, which helps to find visual inspections to prevent the carriage of dangerous weapons or devices onboard our aircraft. In most instances, security checkpoint functions are performed for the air carrier by a contract security provider in accordance with the air carrier standard security program and regulations set out by the FAA. Individual security screeners are hired and trained in the specifics of this program and the use of the security equipment by the contract security provider. The hiring standards are provided under the FAA regulations. Background checks of the individuals' last 10 years of employment history are conducted. A 10-year criminal history check will similarly be conducted for those individuals with inconsistencies or gaps in their employment history. Local air carrier management does provide oversight of the security provider's compliance with these Federal requirements and specific security measures. Mr. Chairman, I have been involved in commercial aviation for 40 years. There has never been anything that has had more impact on our country, our industry, and our employees than the events of September 11. I do know one important thing. We can never have another September 11. I would look forward to your questions. Thank you. Senator Durbin. Thank you, Mr. Baker. Paul Busick is the President and Executive Director of the North Carolina Global TransPark. Thank you for being here. TESTIMONY OF REAL ADMIRAL PAUL E. BUSICK, USCG, RET.,\1\ PRESIDENT AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, NORTH CAROLINA GLOBAL TRANSPARK AUTHORITY Mr. Busick. Chairman Lieberman, Chairman Durbin, and distinguished Members of the Committee, my thoughts and prayers also go out to those people who have lost their loved ones to this terrible act of violence. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Busick with an attachment appears in the Appendix on page 109. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I thank you for your invitation to share my perspective on the current aviation security process and ways to improve it. My position is not unique, although I think that very few share it. I was personally involved in the decisionmaking process that affected the way we provide for aviation security from 1993 through most of 1996 as the Director of Intelligence and Security for the Secretary of Transportation. I am pleased to offer my views now in 2001 as we revisit this important issue. I have supplied the Committee with my written comments that offer specific details on the evolution of aviation security procedures as we know them today. I believe you will find that my written statement will provide the background information necessary to support my comments this afternoon. Therefore, I would like to use my time allotted to focus on those issues I believe need your pressing attention. First and foremost, I would like to make a clarifying statement. While I believe that it is essential that this Committee examine the current structure and procedures used to screen passengers and their belongings, I would also ask that Members of this Committee be wary of addressing only this one aspect of the aviation security system. At this time we are not privy to all of the details of how this heinous act of September 11 was carried out. While passenger screening may have played a significant role that day, it may have been only one element in a series of failures in the system. It is important that we recognize that a multi-billion-dollar intelligence effort did not predict these events, that the FAA had no regulation in place preventing persons from carrying the types of weapons described. The airlines train their personnel to respond to threat vectors of a wholly different nature. We have an obligation to absolutely, positively get the program for security in the air travel system right this time. Therefore, it is essential that we look at the system as a whole and focus our efforts on improvements and not on recriminations. Each time we have had a crisis in our national aviation system, a task force or commission is formed, studies are conducted, recommendations are filed, the status quo shifts slightly higher, until we face the next crisis. We can't let that happen this time. It is time to make drastic changes in the system in place. It is time that we ensure that support necessary to carry out these changes does not wane when the initial shock fades. Given that the current approach has proven itself incapable of providing a high-quality system, federalizing seems to me to be the next best choice. But if we simply federalize without the establishment of thorough training programs, the deployment of high-quality equipment, standardized and regular measurements of performance, and decent pay and benefits, one can certainly predict failure of the new system just as well. If we simply make a change that has the Federal Government contracting out to the lowest bidder and make no qualitative improvements, all we have done is change the name of the employer. There is no panacea to this. Screening is hard, repetitive work. It will require significant efforts in human factor analysis and human-machine engineering to make it work well. A key issue is the professionalism of the personnel tasked with the responsibility to provide our first line of defense. These hard-working individuals have been asked to achieve the improbable and are sometimes vilified for their failure to do so. Minimal training, varied levels of equipment, low wages, long hours, constant criticism. This is the life of the aviation security screener. The White House Commission of Aviation Safety and Security recognize the value of these individuals and called for a program to certify and license security screeners based on their proficiency. Wages and benefits would rise accordingly, as would the overall quality of the screening process. The commissioners believe that such a program would encourage people to seek out these positions as professional trades. The recommendations were not carried out. The regulation to address this issue is still in draft and, in fact, does not provide for certification of individuals. Rather, it calls for certification of the companies who provide these services. Screeners are not recognized for proficiency; rather, they receive bonuses for longevity. I will expand on these themes for the duration of my allotted time. Federalization, done properly, could address several other flaws inherent in the current system. The Administrative Rulemaking Procedure Act is one of the foremost reasons why good ideas don't find their way to implementation. The rulemaking process is slow and rife with compromise. In my opinion, the industry has taken advantage of their legal rights under the Rulemaking Procedure Act to question, delay, and dilute rules intended to improve aviation security. When the distinguished Members of this body pass a law telling the FAA to institute a new security procedure, FAA is required to embark upon the odyssey that is rulemaking. I can't imagine police or military planners responsible for security engaging with others in such a manner to implement necessary security measures. Federalizing the security screening process would eliminate the need to get involved in a lengthy debate over the value or cost of a specific measure. Costs associated with them would also be looked at differently. If they are deemed to be appropriate and necessary, they can be implemented. While the question of who carries out this important task may be less important than how it is done, the right agency with appropriate authorities could make a difference. While I am here today to address the pressing need of improved aviation security, I also foresee the necessity of addressing terrorism against all of our transportation modes. An organization dedicated to transportation security within DOT with limited law enforcement responsibilities and direct access to information from intelligence agencies regarding all modes of transportation is, in my opinion, the ideal entity to undertake this task for several reasons. Intelligence received by this agency can be disseminated throughout the transportation system. A national cadre of professional security personnel under the DOT umbrella could be dispatched to locations of interest and heightened concern in direct response to intelligence. R&D efforts could be directed by this office in response to information not only on new threats and methods, but also in response to experience gained from the utilization of equipment in the real world. Administrators from each of the modes of transportation would play a vital role in determining specific procedures to be undertaken at transportation facilities. They really are the experts in their field within government and offer valuable insight into daily operations. Their direct functional knowledge applied in conjunction with resources of the Department's Office of Intelligence and Security creates a natural partnership between intelligence, operations, and oversight. Even with a single governing entity in place, it is hard to determine the competency of an individual screener without comprehensive testing procedures. The currently approved testing devices are standardized, rudimentary, and not at all effective in testing security under realistic conditions. In addition, with an average of at least 8 percent turnover rate per month, it is difficult to determine if training methods are at all effective. FAA Red Team, DOT Inspector General, and GAO methods appear to be more realistic. Low detection rates for their tests reflect that. The electronic threat insertion method would be a useful tool for teaching and testing, but there are too few deployed at this time to be sure. Test procedures should be realistic, consistent, and objective to the degree possible. National results should be compiled as often as practical and compared to address the question of efficacy of training and equipment. A regular and comprehensive review of test results would allow for rapid modification in training methods, cycles, and curriculum. Such a review would also indicate which types of equipment are able to provide the image clarity necessary to determine if there is a threat object present and which are not. Armed with this information, the Secretary could amend procurement orders to purchase only the equipment proven to be effective via rigorous testing. Efforts to encourage competition among equipment providers must take place within a framework that recognizes that technical standards and the need for rapid deployment of properly certified equipment will not be abandoned merely to create competitive markets. The most important aspect of the free enterprise system is that success and accomplishments are rewarded by market preference. The unintended consequence of last year's congressional direction to split funding between a fully certified system and an EDS system that was not fully field vetted led simply to significant slowdowns in deployment of certified EDS systems without any benefit to either aviation security or the competitive marketplace. Other nations have found greater success in screening performance via the use of a single entity governing the screening process. We have already talked about the GAO's look at foreign governments and those were mostly European. In short, the findings of the report show that other nations have instituted programs that require much more extensive qualifications and training, higher pay, much more stringent checkpoint operations, and the assumption of overall responsibility for the screening process by a single government entity. It is interesting to note that France requires screeners to be citizens of an EU nation. The reasoning presented in the report is the cooperative nature of the EU law enforcement agencies. France believes that by requiring EU citizenship, they may conduct a much more comprehensive background check on the individuals by accessing criminal information data sources from all European Union nations. I think the United States should take its lead from France and coordinate our efforts with other national governments to compile similar information and vet security personnel against these data sources as well. No matter which entity assumes these tremendous responsibilities, the responsibility for funding an ongoing, dedicated effort lies with the U.S. Congress. There must be a dedicated funding stream to support our Nation's security in all its many facets. I believe both appropriated funds and a dedicated transportation security user fee are necessary steps. I also recognize that you as Members of Congress are elected to represent all of the people, not just those who are using the transportation system today. Providing for transportation security is providing for national security. The terrorists who committed this crime against the United States were well aware of the impact it would have on our economy as a whole. And, therefore, we as a Nation must support the ongoing effort to ensure our national security. In conclusion, I would like to make a short personal statement. I consider myself genuinely fortunate to have served as the Director of the Office of Intelligence and Security for a whole lot of reasons. It was good, rewarding work, work that needed to be done. But the primary reason was that people in the industry with whom I was privileged to work, the professional, dedicated, honorable individuals on the front lines of aviation security, deserve our respect and gratitude. These individuals struggle every day to make our system safe and secure. They often have limited information and resources, conflicting directives, and suffer the criticism of 20/20 hindsight following every incident. I would ask you to join me in ending the process of selecting who is to blame and instead appreciate the efforts of the hard-working individuals who have accepted these awesome responsibilities as their own, people like Al Grazier of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey; Joe Lawless of Mass. Port; Richard Kunicki in Chicago; Alvie Dotson at Dallas-Fort Worth; Al Lomax of Kansas City; Jim Welna, Minneapolis; Richard Davis, United Airlines; and Matt Vaughn of the United Parcel Service. Each of these individuals stands out in my mind as a stellar example of professionalism in aviation security. I applaud their effort, and I look forward to working with them and with you to craft a more secure future for our national aviation system. Thank you. Senator Durbin. Thank you very much. Mr. Griggs. TESTIMONY OF LEONARD L. GRIGGS, JR.,\1\ DIRECTOR OF AIRPORTS- CITY OF ST. LOUIS, LAMBERT-ST. LOUIS INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT Mr. Griggs. Mr. Chairman and Members of the Committee, I am Leonard Griggs, Director of Airports for the city of St. Louis. I would also like to express my profound sympathy and sorrow to all those families and friends of those people who lost their lives. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Griggs with an attachment appears in the Appendix on page 115. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- As you well know, we served over 31 million passengers last year and are well on the road to becoming another major hub for American Airlines as they take over from TWA. I appreciate being invited to share Lambert Airport and Mayor Slay's views on how this Nation's system can be improved so that our citizens will have renewed confidence that our skies are safe and that the Federal Government is adequately protecting airports and aircraft operations from the full spectrum of possible terrorist activities. I am pleased that the focus of this hearing is on airport screeners since they are a key element in the defense against terrorism. In my 5 minutes, I plan to address the following points which are expanded upon in my written statement: First is airport police presence at airport screening checkpoints; expansion of the Federal Air Marshal Program and security and sanctity of the cockpit; timely sharing of intelligence by Federal officials with local airports' police; federalizing the passenger screening; improved cargo and baggage screening; reduced carry-on baggage; assistance with unfunded Federal mandates and other costs; and the possibility of reopening Reagan Washington National Airport. Security measures at Lambert Airport have been noticeably increased in response to the FAA directives over the past 2 weeks. Law enforcement's presence has been expanded with Lambert Airport police officers being stationed in patrols at all three of the passenger screening points within the terminal. I would like to thank Senator Durbin for this suggestion--where it came from--and we have found that an increased law enforcement presence reinforces the seriousness of passenger screening and communicates to screeners how important their functions are. I have personally talked to the owners and managers of both of the security companies on the need for professional conduct and appearance, and they have responded. I have provided a complete listing of increased security measures that have been implemented at Lambert Airport. Other security measures not publicly discussed or put in here have also been put into effect in the operation of our plan. As a result, the airport security at Lambert Airport is very high. I was comfortable flying out of Lambert Airport yesterday and believe that other travelers should feel safe resuming their flights through our airport. The city of St. Louis recommends additional actions to further improve airport security and airline security. As for aircraft security, St. Louis supports a substantial expansion of the Federal Air Marshal Program for onboard protection and improved protection of the cockpit in airline security. In addition, the following is a partial listing of additional security measures that we and I believe the DOT and the Congress should consider to further improve the on-airport portion of security: First, better intelligence sharing by the Federal Government. We have all read in the press accounts of how information about some of the September 11 terrorists was never passed on to local law enforcement or airport police. Federal intelligence agencies do not timely share their information with the FAA's Civil Aviation Security Office and, in turn, with the local airport law enforcement. Some have urged that expanded Federal intelligence efforts must be approved and funded by Congress and the Executive Branch. Having all Federal intelligence and enforcement agencies share the same computer database would be very beneficial. In our view, it is important that relevant, timely information must be shared with us. Airport security is the last ground of defense to forestall terrorism against civil aviation, but that defense must be based on timely and adequate information. Second, federalize passenger screening. I believe, and a majority of my colleagues believe, that the passenger screening function should be placed under control of a Federal agency, probably within the U.S. Department of Transportation, rather than being delegated as now to the private airlines. However, some large airports have concerns that federalization could result in inadequate manpower levels because of budgets that have been starved over time. This has often been the case with inspection staffing at both Customs and INS functions throughout this country. The federalized passenger screening program could be another branch of the Federal Air Marshal Program and could be very appropriate under the Federal Administrator of the FAA. Federalizing the passenger screening function should make it easier to pass intelligence to law enforcement agencies that back up the passenger screening function at U.S. airports. Next, restriction on carry-on baggage. Until a Federal agency has taken over the passenger screening function, it would be very advisable to limit carry-on bags to one per passenger, with some exceptions, for example, people with small babies carrying diaper bags and that kind of thing, which would help reduce the screener workload. Improved baggage, cargo, and mail screening. You have heard this before. Congress should assure that adequate numbers of explosive detection systems devices and other current technology that are available for the inspection of unaccompanied baggage, cargo, and mail packages be made available. Congress should help fund the new security mandates imposed by the FAA on local sponsors. Lambert Airport is spending millions of dollars of unbudgeted funds to implement the increased FAA security to the tune of--for example, we are spending $72,000 a week for additional security members. We believe that unfunded mandates should be covered by general Federal funds or through expanded authorization from the AIP or the Passenger Facility Charges. Another crisis we are facing is the cancellation and/or tripling of premiums in our liability insurance, the same as the airlines are facing. This is something that must be addressed. Finally, Mr. Chairman, I feel it is absolutely critical to reopen Reagan National Airport. To paraphrase Mayor Tony Williams, Reagan National Airport is the first door to Washington, is a vital symbol, and, therefore, keeping it closed tells the terrorists that they have won. I am confident security measures can be put in place to make Reagan National Airport safe. As a matter of fact, if we do not, there is one major airline which has been already threatened and the possibility of severe financial damage to three of our major airports. Again, Mr. Chairman, my mayor and I appreciate the opportunity to express my views and recommendations on this most important topic of aviation security. I have been in this industry for 25 years, and September 11 can never be allowed to be repeated. Thank you. Chairman Lieberman. Thanks very much, Mr. Griggs, for that excellent testimony. Mr. Harvey, a pleasure to have you here. TESTIMONY OF AUBREY ``BILL'' HARVEY, JR.,\1\ TRAINING SUPERVISOR FOR ARGENBRIGHT SECURITY, O'HARE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT Mr. Harvey. Good afternoon, Senator Lieberman. I would like to express my deepest sympathies to all those who lost someone during the tragic events of 9/11/2001. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Harvey appears in the Appendix on page 125. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Lieberman. Mr. Harvey, come forward a little bit. Those mikes are very directional. Mr. Harvey. My name is Aubrey Harvey, and I am a checkpoint security supervisor for Argenbright Security at O'Hare International Airport. I appreciate the opportunity to testify before this Committee and give you the perspective of the men and women who work as security checkpoint screeners at our Nation's airports. Those of us who work hard day in and day out to protect the flying public--successfully, I might add--have found the news reports pointing the finger of blame at screener for the events of September 11 very disheartening. From all indications, there is no evidence that any activity by a checkpoint screener--all of whom were following FAA regulations correctly--contributed to this horrible tragedy. I want to thank you, Senator Durbin, and the other Members of this Committee for taking the perspective of the security screener in mind as Congress debates changes to the current system. As an Air Force veteran who served with the 19th Tactical Air Strike Squadron in Vietnam, I understand and appreciate the role that security and national security plays in our American transportation system. I want to assure you that those of us working the checkpoints take this issue of national security very seriously as well. Let me give you a little bit of background about myself. I was hired as a pre-departure screener for Argenbright in November 1996. Given my interest in taking on more responsibility, I was promoted to a checkpoint security supervisor. In 1999, I became certified as a trainer and advanced equipment trainer and currently train new members of the O'Hare screening team. Training new members involves both classroom instruction and on-the-job training. The latter is particularly important, as human interaction with passengers and attention to behavior is vital. In 1999, I was selected as the FAA's Screener of the Year. Candidates are chosen based on superior performances under the difficult circumstances that can present themselves at an airport checkpoint. My nomination was the result of two events that occurred at O'Hare. The first occurred in December 1998 when a passenger attempted to board an aircraft with a 12-gauge shotgun. We apprehended the weapon and the passenger was arrested. In August 1999, a passenger broke through the security checkpoint. I followed and contained the passenger until a police officer made the arrest. The activities of the individual screeners are important, but new security measures and technology are also critical. Since my time at Argenbright, I have seen the screening technology vastly improve. Training procedures have become more sophisticated, using computer programs such as the TIP program and Safe Passage program to test screeners on the job. Screeners are also required to have additional training yearly to update them on the newest technologies and procedural changes. We are also making ongoing efforts to attract, retain, and reward qualified employees. Since I began at Argenbright, I have received two promotions and my wages have nearly tripled. The events of September 11, 2001, were horrific and cruel. Yet I believe that security screeners at the affected airports and even those that were not affected acted with dispatch on that day and in the days since to protect the flying public. As a trainer and a checkpoint security supervisor, I know the difficulties and challenges of the job. I also know the value of following procedures and the importance of training. As an individual employee of Argenbright Security, I have and will continue to work with the Federal authorities to improve screening, security, and the safety of the flying public. Thank you very much, Senator. Chairman Lieberman. Thank you, Mr. Harvey. I am delighted you are here and gave us that personal and unique perspective. Mr. La Pier. TESTIMONY OF MICHAEL B. LA PIER, A.A.E.,\1\ EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, CENTRAL ILLINOIS REGIONAL AIRPORT Mr. La Pier. Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Committee and staff. I would like to thank the Chair for the opportunity to be here this afternoon to appear before you to give a perspective of a small airport on the current situation regarding civil aviation security in the United States today. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. La Pier appears in the Appendix on page 131. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would also like to thank the senior Senator from the State of Illinois, Senator Durbin, for inviting me to be here this afternoon, but most particularly for his unyielding leadership and strong support of aviation issues in the State of Illinois. I should tell you this is my first opportunity to testify before a Congressional or a Senate committee. It is an opportunity that I welcome. It is an experience that I will value forever as an American. In the words of a song made popular against recently, ``In a New York minute, everything can change.'' This is eerily true of the world of civil aviation security as a result of the tragic actions of September 11. The acts of aviation piracy and subsequent terrorism have clearly changed the face of the industry that the Central Illinois Regional Airport is a part of forever. We recognize that change, Mr. Chairman, and, frankly, we welcome it. We clearly don't welcome how the change is being brought about, the reasons for these changes, but we fully support the efforts, all efforts to strengthen civil aviation security in our country. Allow me for a moment to introduce you to Central Illinois Regional Airport. We serve a region of about 1.2 million people from Bloomington-Normal, Illinois. The airport has seen unprecedented growth in the past few years, particularly in passenger traffic but also in commercial flights. Since 1987, passenger traffic has grown from just over 80,000 passengers annually to nearly 500,000 last year. At the same time, the number of scheduled daily departures has increased from 12 in 1987 to almost 50--or to over 50 last year. In fact, the number of air carriers serving the airport has grown from two in 1987 to its current level of five. This growth is the direct result of the robust economy in the region, and particularly the expanded service opportunities by the airlines. I guess you could call us a true success story in the deregulation era. In terms of passenger traffic, we are proud that we were recognized as the fastest-growing non-hub airport in the United States in 1997, and over the last 5 years, we have been the second fastest-growing airport in the Nation regardless of size of airport. Prior to the horror of September 11, Central Illinois Regional Airport stood in full compliance with all applicable security directives and regulations put forward by the Federal Aviation Administration. I am also pleased to report that we achieved compliance, full compliance, with all new directives issued by FAA after September 11 within 24 hours. We believe that made us one of the first airports in the Great Lakes region to achieve that status. If you would allow me a personal moment here, I brought with me this afternoon my staff, members of my staff, the folks that made it possible for us to achieve that status. They are Don Schneider, the operations manager and principal security officer of the Airport Authority; Fran Streebing, who is director of marketing and public relations; and Chad Farashon, my administration manager and finance manager. They are in the audience with me this afternoon. It is important to note that the full compliance that we achieved does not come without a cost. Our security budget for this year totals $125,000. The increased security dictated by September 11 actions will cost us approximately $30,000 a month or nearly triple our budget. This expenditure, if annualized, would represent 20 percent of our $2.1 million annual operating budget. This, Mr. Chairman, has the potential to become a significant financial burden. As we have talked about this afternoon and as the Members of this Committee are aware, there are two separate but intertwined areas of aviation security at our Nation's airports today. First, the airlines are tasked with a variety of different responsibilities and regulations under FAR Part 108. It is their responsibility to provide for trained, qualified security personnel at all airport checkpoints in the United States. Currently, in most, if not all, of those situations, those services are provided by one or several private companies. Airport operators, on the other hand, support passenger security checkpoint operations with law enforcement officers. These officers are not trained to operate the checkpoint but are in place to support its operators if necessary. In the case of Central Illinois Regional Airport, we meet the obligation that is put upon us by FAA through a series of alarms and a 5-minute response from the City of Bloomington Police Department. I don't mean to be critical here of the current operations of the security checkpoints in the United States. I believe that the vast majority of the folks that operate those checkpoints are, in fact, doing the best job they can. It is important to note, however, that they are not members of the law enforcement community. Whether we like it or not, the events of September 11 have caused a change in the rules of the game. I believe that these changes must be met with something other than simply regulatory changes and adjustments. We must meet these changes with significant actions that will again allow us to capture control of the safety of our skies. There has been a great deal of discussion here this afternoon and over the past couple of days about federalization of checkpoints. We strongly support looking into that issue very in depth. We believe that a parallel may exist in the Coast Guard. Regardless of whoever is tasked with this responsibility, we believe that they must have access to all pertinent information and intelligence so that they can become a more proactive rather than reactive organization. Simply put, the rules of the game have changed, and I believe that they are going to continue to change as we go forward. We must have all necessary information, particularly when it comes to communication, for us to be able to respond effectively and proactively. The second area of responsibility is obviously airport security. That is one that we are very familiar with. In simple terms, we are responsible for the security of the airport facility itself and the environment within which our airlines operate. Under the current regulations, the extent of airport security required varies depending upon the level of activity. The level required varies from complete video monitoring and law enforcement patrols at our Nation's busiest airports to much less stringent but nonetheless effective security posture at some of our smaller airports. When I think back to the events of September 11, and particularly those events as they occurred at Central Illinois Regional Airport, the one thing that stands out in my mind was the lack of information that we received. I fully realize that the efforts of those in charge were probably correctly directed at larger airports, more traffic-intensive airports than Central Illinois Regional Airport. But I would maintain that the threats at airports the size of Central Illinois Regional Airport are no less real. When we go back to the Gulf War, airports and the FAA worked together to craft a plan to implement levels of security based upon perceived threat. Without going into specific details, all airports developed these guidelines under the direction of FAA, and there were four levels of security that were developed. We were all to implement those levels of security and those actions of security at the direction of FAA. At the time this action seemed to be reactive, but it certainly could have put us into a proactive position. Unfortunately, the one component that failed in that system on September 11 was, again, communication. We did not receive communication from FAA regarding increased levels of security until the next day. I don't wish to be critical of the individuals at FAA that were responsible for communication or for enhanced security at our airports. I believe they do a wonderful job of regulating security at our Nation's airports. We must, however, learn from the events and practice that old saying, ``An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.'' I believe the agency in charge of aviation security must be provided with all of the tools necessary to allow us to be proactive, and the communication that has to occur must involve all the partners in aviation. I would tell you that airports and airlines are two different types of operations. The airlines are typically and are set up to be for-profit enterprises. Airports are, in fact, on the main, government-sponsored agencies. In our case, we are 38 percent tax dependent. We receive 38 percent of our operating budget from property taxes. Recently the financial markets acknowledged the gravity of the situation regarding aviation and airports and have now placed all North American airports on credit watch. That means it is going to be more difficult for us to raise capital to accomplish what will need to be done to protect and to ensure security at our airport and at every airport in the United States. We would ask Congress to look very closely at the statement that Standard and Poor's made in their recent announcement in which they said immediate and broad authority should be granted to FAA to reimburse airports for extraordinary costs for security and to maintain financial viability. We looked at our airport to determine what it was that we thought we might need to put ourselves in a posture that would be similar to what Colonel Griggs would experience in St. Louis. Simply put, a one-time investment of $1.8 million and an annual investment of $500,000 is what our quick analysis determined. That is a tough pill for a small airport to swallow. Mr. Chairman and Members of the Committee, my time is up. I would like to thank you for the opportunity to be here this afternoon not only personally but professionally as well. Often small airports are left out of discussions of this nature, and it is comforting to know that in this case we have had the opportunity to share them with you. Thank you. Senator Durbin. Thank you very much, Mr. La Pier. I apologize for stepping out. I mentioned to Chairman Lieberman that, coincidentally, the father of one of the victims of Flight 77 was in my office, and I obviously left to speak to him. But it was a grim reminder that this inquiry at this Committee is certainly not routine. It is a reflection of the solemn duty and responsibility all of us have to do what we can to make sure this never happen again. Mr. Baker, since September 11, whatever you can tell us, what has American Airlines done to do things differently in terms of security? And could you address the issue we raised earlier about the visible changes which we think the flying public is looking for? Mr. Baker. Well, there are a lot of things that I probably shouldn't discuss, but let me---- Senator Durbin. Understood. Mr. Baker [continuing]. Assure you that there has been literally an ongoing, almost 24 hours a day, back-and-forth with the FAA security staff and the airlines collectively, making small and very large changes to the way we operate. We have completely taken certain parts of the exposure out of play, for instance, by removing portions of the cargo business. They are no longer flying on our airplanes. Not known to the general public but, nevertheless, that has happened. A lot more activity and requirements in and around the ticket counters and the checkpoints. We have closed all the curbside check-in. Checking of IDs in multiple locations, accelerating the random wanding of passengers at checkpoints and at gates. A very complicated procedure to deal with the nameless that you have had some discussion about, and those lists today are nearing a thousand individuals. Senator Durbin. Were those available before? Mr. Baker. No. Senator Durbin. Did you receive those names? Mr. Baker. No, sir. This is all new territory for us. Senator Durbin. Let me ask you about one particular area that you have spoken about, and you are in a special position here because of your being chosen to be part of this commission by the Secretary. You have talked about the hardening of the cockpit doors, and that seems so important and so clearly needed. Are you considering other changes within the airplane? One in particular that I have been looking at--and it is controversial with people who have strong feelings on it--and that is the whole question of video cameras in the airplane. After the Egypt air crash, we never knew what happened, and the technology we have in the cockpit now made sense 40 years ago, but it doesn't make sense today. And when I talked to some pilots in private about it, they said, ``We would love to have a camera that is trained on the rest of the airplane to know what is going on back there, and we would also like to have one in the cargo hold so if something is going wrong, we know what the nature of the problem is.'' Are you looking at other changes within an airplane that might address some of those surveillance issues you raised in your testimony? Mr. Baker. Absolutely. Let me talk just a minute about the door so that you understand what we are into there. That door is not simply a door hanging on hinges that opens and closes with a key and a lock. That door is a very sophisticated device that must deal with other parameters of the aircraft, specifically two. If there were a decompression in the cockpit, we lost a cockpit windshield, all of the air in the cabin will immediately rush forward and try to exist via that missing windshield area. That door cannot become a projectile from that decompression activity. So the door and that whole bulkhead must perform to allow the air to pass through without structurally damaging the airplane. So when we talk about hardening it, you and I could go out and decide let's put metal strips on, let's put deadbolts, let's put steel. We can make it strong, but we are going to lose that other functionality. The second parameter that is in the Federal Air Regulations we have to pay attention to is that door must be removable in the event of an accident so the crew can exit rearward or the passengers can exit forward. So if you look at the door the next time you get on an airplane, you will see the hinges are very carefully designed with cables to pull the pins out of the hinges so you can literally throw the door to one side and get out of the airplane. So we are balancing lots of objectives here in that door, but we have some very specific, and I think, constructive ideas, both short and long term. We are very concerned about the crew's ability to know who might be trying to get in the cockpit and make sure that whenever that door gets opened that it is, in fact, an authorized person. A video camera aimed at the door area is certainly one of the alternatives we are going to suggest, in addition to some other techniques for the flight attendant part of the crew to alert the cockpit that something irregular is going on in the back of the airplane. So I think you will see some of that. Video cameras in the cockpit is a different subject for a different day, I think, because if the bad guy gets in the cockpit, we have failed. Senator Durbin. Yes. Mr. Baker. We are working to keep them out. Senator Durbin. I also was surprised when a pilot told me that a camera in the cargo area might be of some value, too. Mr. Baker. It would be because in the case of fire, smoke, or an animal gets loose, it could be useful. Senator Durbin. Mr. Harvey, thank you for coming, and although I just caught the end of your testimony, I read it, and am very happy that you joined us today and told us about your experience. How does your company recruit those who work at the screening stations at O'Hare? Mr. Harvey. I am not directly involved with the recruiting process, but as a company, we use standard procedures, newspaper advertisements. We also have an employee referral type program. Senator Durbin. How long have you worked at O'Hare on the screenings? Mr. Harvey. Five years. Senator Durbin. And have you seen a change in the kind of employees that are being hired by the company? Mr. Harvey. Well, I see a broader mix. When I first started we had quite a few very young individuals. Now I see that it is spread out. We have a nice wide variety of people of all ages. Senator Durbin. And what is the starting salary for someone working the screening equipment? Mr. Harvey. At O'Hare Airport, our screeners start out at $6.75 an hour. Senator Durbin. Any benefits with that? Mr. Harvey. Yes, we do have company benefits that are contributory, health insurance, life insurance, dental insurance, and that type of thing. Senator Durbin. And is that a full-time, 40-hour a week job? Mr. Harvey. Yes. We work pretty much 8 hours a day, half an hour for lunch, two 15-minute breaks. Senator Durbin. Colonel Griggs, I want to ask you about your monitoring of screening operations at Lambert Airport. Can you tell me, as the manager of the airport, how you monitor their activities? Mr. Griggs. Well, basically we have established the presence of one of the policemen down there who is an armed policeman. He supervises other things, but his job primarily while he is down there is to watch the security people, watch how they behave. If they are doing something that is irresponsible like clowning or all the rest, to call his attention to it. And I think probably that plus my talking to the two managers of these companies had a profound effect upon them, that they know we are there. They do not know exactly where they are going to be at 24 hours a day, but I can tell you, that doing the 16 hours, which is most of the time the checkpoints are open, we have a profound presence and will continue to have it. Senator Durbin. And I can feel the difference. I can tell you, it makes a difference. I think the environment around those screening stations has changed. You raised a point which is important, and I am sure Mr. Baker could testify from his perspective on this, and that is the increase in your insurance premiums. Are those increases-- you talked about a tripling of the liability insurance for the airport--is that since the September 11 occurrence? Mr. Griggs. Since September 11. We had just renegotiated our entire insurance. We were being offered, and I think my figures are provided to the record, but if I am correct on this, we were offered $350,000 worth of insurance for $78,000. We just got that turned down, and we have now been offered $50,000 premium for $650,000 premium. We have been charted $600 million, now must pay $600,000 for it. This is an abominable thing. This is what we brought in our testimony, that my mayor provided to the Council of Mayors. Not only is it important for the airlines to be guaranteed liability or they are not going to fly, I have got to have some relief on this or I cannot protect the public beyond that air side to the land side. I cannot do it. Senator Durbin. Mr. La Pier, have you run into the same thing? Mr. La Pier. We have, Senator. Recently a good portion of our liability insurance has been canceled. We are renegotiating its reinstatement, but it was canceled for the purpose of increasing the premiums. Senator Durbin. Senator Lieberman. Chairman Lieberman. Thanks again, Senator Durbin. Mr. Baker, let me ask you the question I asked Mr. Belger and the earlier panel. Do you know--I think you called it--what the percentage usage of planes is now since September 11? Mr. Baker. First of all, the industry, has, as a general statement, reduced the size of the schedule we are trying to fly by approximately 20 percent, so we are not offering as much product as we used to. This is a relatively slow time of the year anyway. This situation has clearly impacted us severely. Our load factors yesterday on the domestic system were just over 50 percent of the reduced schedule. Chairman Lieberman. And what is the norm for this time of the year? Mr. Baker. This time of the year should be in the mid 60's. Chairman Lieberman. So we are down, but not--I mean, it is significant, but it is not overwhelming. Mr. Baker. Except I have 20 percent of the assets sitting. Chairman Lieberman. Sitting, OK. Mr. Baker. Now, I talked yesterday to our manager of revenue, who looks forward 180 days, and compares the booking build every day against a year ago, so we can tell whether we are in trouble versus a year ago each day of the week. He sees nothing in the advanced booking trends that suggests that the public is returning in the form of making reservations. Chairman Lieberman. Well, that is the important point. In other words, people have not yet regained sufficient confidence to bring the usage back to anywhere near where it was before September 11. Mr. Baker. Absolutely not. It fell off, and it stayed down since September 11. Chairman Lieberman. Yes. Obviously, for an industry that was already having economic difficulties. Mr. Baker. Exactly. Chairman Lieberman. So I know it is more complicated than this, but it does seem to me that those numbers cry out to us, and the Department of Transportation, the industry, everybody to take quick and dramatic action to reassure the public that it is safe to fly again. Mr. Baker. We think building confidence of both crews, and passengers, and the American public is essential, and that is why I believe when you see the recommendations we make to Secretary Mineta, we are trying real hard to do some things right now to build that confidence and have a demonstration of change so that we can begin that building process. Chairman Lieberman. I take it from your testimony and the three points that you said, the second one was sky marshals, that one of the things you think we should do as quickly as possible is to increase the number of marshals on planes. Mr. Baker. Absolutely. And I think by combining those three functions that I mentioned, I think we deal with another problem. I think part of the high screener turnover that we reviewed earlier certainly has to do with low wages because people will always move toward higher wages somewhere in the economy, but I also believe that we need to deal with the content of the job. These are tough jobs because they're kind of monotonous, and so by combining those three functions, it seems to me, and doing some rotation, we create variety, which makes a job much more interesting. And, finally, we create a promotional ladder potential so that somebody like Mr. Harvey, who is very aggressive and capable, can move from one part of the security function upward to another and up a management ladder. Now we are starting to build a security culture that is here forever. Chairman Lieberman. The sky marshals now are not in uniform, correct? Mr. Baker. They are not. They are in plainclothes. Chairman Lieberman. Do you think that should continue to be so or should they be in uniform? Mr. Baker. I think they should be in plainclothes for maximum effectiveness. Chairman Lieberman. And I suppose as a matter of--I agree with you--as a matter of deterrence, if we say that there will be a dramatic increase in the number of sky marshals and, in fact, there is a dramatic increase, but we do not put them in uniform, then anyone intending ill on a plane would have to go on assuming that a sky marshal was on that plane. Mr. Baker. I think it is a very important deterrent to not disclose everything that we are doing, but to clearly state the intent and how we are going to get there. Chairman Lieberman. Under the current system, I just want to get a fact on the record, unless I missed it up until now, the requirement that the law puts on the airlines to provide the screening at the checkpoint, am I correct, and somebody said to me in the last couple of weeks, the airlines add $5 to every ticket to pay for security; is that correct? Mr. Baker. No. Chairman Lieberman. I was under the impression that there was no fee associated with the security responsibilities that you have been given, but it is to be taken out of your normal operating. Mr. Baker. That is correct, and we believe that the large carrier industry represented by the Air Transport Association, which is 90 percent or so of all of the passengers being flown, spend about a billion dollars a year on security at airports alone. We think that is roughly the number. Chairman Lieberman. Mr. Harvey, I wanted to ask you, from your perspective because you have been on the front lines, and I appreciate your testimony, at one point you said in your testimony--I want to quote it exactly--``From all indications, there is no evidence that all activity by a checkpoint screener, all of whom are following FAA regulations correctly, contributed to this horrible tragedy of September 11.'' I do not want to contest that. I wanted to ask you--because we do not know exactly yet. We know from the stories we have heard, apparently, that the terrorist had either these box cutters or maybe plastic knives. So I want to ask you, as somebody who has been there, screened, trained, knowing now what we pieced together about what happened, how would you guess they got those tools, weapons, on the planes? Mr. Harvey. Prior to September 11, on the security checkpoints, we had a set of guidelines regarding the length of knives, also whether they were menacing and that type of thing. Right after that, right after the incident, we did, FAA changed that particular directive as a direct result of the incident. Chairman Lieberman. So it is possible---- Mr. Harvey. There were several--go ahead. Chairman Lieberman. I am sorry. It is possible, I know some of the stories I have seen said they might have taken plastic knives on, that they might have gone through the system, as the FAA regulations existed at that time? Mr. Harvey. Exactly. Because if a person only had a plastic knife on their person and walked through a metal detector, the metal detector---- Chairman Lieberman. Would not go off. Mr. Harvey [continuing]. Would not go off. Chairman Lieberman. Right. How about what we have all been describing as box cutters, would that have set the metal detector off? Mr. Harvey. Possibly, in the sense that the metal detector, the magnetometer is set up to detect a small-caliber weapon, and the operational test piece that we use to test the metal detector functions, if the box cutter did not weigh the same as that particular test item, then the metal detector should not alarm. Chairman Lieberman. Yes. Mr. Harvey. Because it is based on density. Chairman Lieberman. So we cannot say definitely that a box cutter would have set off the magnetometer. Mr. Harvey. Exactly. Chairman Lieberman. And, of course, the other explanation, which we have mentioned earlier, we have seen in the media, is that they did not go through the screening with these devices, but some other airport personnel might have placed them on the planes beforehand. We do not know that. A final question for you, Mr. La Pier. We have all been absorbed by the information and different theories about what happened here, and I am sure you noted with more than casual interest that the terrorists who took the plane from Logan, two of them who took the Logan plane down, entered in Portland, Maine, went into the airport of Portland, Maine. So the question was raised why did they do that? Did they do that because security was less at that regional airport, and once they got on the plane there, they were inside the system? I wonder just from your expertise and experience, it may have been obviously a totally different reason, but how you reacted to that pattern that they followed. Mr. La Pier. Let me preface my response with this. I believe that smaller airports are equally secure as larger ones, but I do believe that the system does not recognize that and believe that there are, because of the way we connect passengers through regional carriers feeding larger carriers, in our case, you clear security at Bloomington normal at Central Illinois Regional Airport, you may fly to Paris before you see another security agent. Chairman Lieberman. Right. Mr. La Pier. It may well be that we need an extraordinary amount of attention paid to airports the size of Central Illinois Regional Airport to ensure that we are not the security hole. I do believe firmly that airports our size are secure under the regulation, but I do believe that there are things that we can do to make sure that we are even more secure. Chairman Lieberman. Well, I appreciate that answer, and I go back to yours, Mr. Harvey. After September 11, the FAA regulations changed, I gather, that is, in regard to the plastic knives, but would the magnetometers now be more likely to--has something been done with the equipment to make it more likely that they would pick up box cutters or the box cutters would---- Mr. Harvey. No, the directive that changed for the length of knives and that type of thing? Chairman Lieberman. Yes. Mr. Harvey. At this point in time, we are not allowing any knives of any size to go. Chairman Lieberman. Right. Mr. Harvey. As far as being able to detect a plastic knife as it comes through the metal detector, the change in the system that was implemented after September 11, we now have to do continuous hand-held metal detector searches. As people come through the security checkpoint---- Chairman Lieberman. Yes. Mr. Harvey [continuing]. We have to do hand-held---- Chairman Lieberman. The wand. Mr. Harvey. Right. Chairman Lieberman. Would that pick up the plastic knife? Mr. Harvey. The wand itself would not, but if they were doing the procedure, if a screener was doing the procedure correctly, the wand itself would sound off, not as far as alarming for metal, but you would hear--can I demonstrate? Chairman Lieberman. Yes. Sure. Mr. Harvey. Hear that? Chairman Lieberman. Yes. Mr. Harvey. OK. If the screener is using the hand-held metal detector correctly, if he hit the plastic or she hit the plastic, then you should hear the sound, and then go to a pat- down in order to detect that particular type of weapon. Chairman Lieberman. I can tell you from the experience that I described earlier at Dulles the other day, the wand picked up, I was carrying a few credit cards loose in my coat pocket, and it picked them up. OK. Painful lessons I guess we learned from September 11. Thank you very much. Senator Durbin [presiding]. Senator Voinovich. Senator Voinovich. Mr. Baker, you said the airlines spend about a billion dollars a year on security. Mr. Baker. Yes, sir. Senator Voinovich. I would be interested, and I should know this as the former mayor of the City of Cleveland, who hires the security company, the director of the airport? How does that work? Mr. Baker. The responsibility to perform various security measures to protect our aircraft and our passengers is passed from the FAA to the air carrier, as part of our operating certificate responsibility. We have the choice of doing that ourselves with our own people if we would choose to or hiring a contractor. So we hire the contractors. In many airports, we share that responsibility. On a given concourse where there are multiple airlines on a concourse, one carrier will take on the management of the checkpoint, we will split the costs and so forth. Senator Voinovich. So that the security people, in effect, they are not answerable to the airport director, but rather they are answerable to the airlines, and if you have got a multiple concourse, you prorate the costs. Mr. Baker. With the exception of the law-enforcement officer function. That is typically provided by the airport or the city, and those folks are at checkpoints or spread between a couple of checkpoints at each airport, and they are typically paid for by the airport and answerable to the airport. Senator Voinovich. And depending on the budget of the airport is or the city, providing those people will depend on what that budget situation happens to be. Mr. Baker. I think that is correct. Senator Voinovich. Following up on the statistics here of the turnover, were you aware of those statistics in those airports? Mr. Baker. Yes. Senator Voinovich. What did the airlines do about those statistics? Mr. Baker. Well, it is interesting because we share those kinds of statistics in many of the other jobs in the aviation sector during a full-employment economy. We have had very high turnover in our entry-level jobs, in our ticket counter positions and on the ramp, so they are not particularly different than what we see throughout the beginning end of aviation. Senator Voinovich. But the thing that is interesting, Mr. Griggs, is the unbelievable turnover rate in St. Louis. Were you aware of that number? Mr. Griggs. I was aware of that number with the airlines. Senator Voinovich. Was it attributable to the fact that the private company that was hired, and I assume a private company handled that, that was paying different wages, say, than what they were paying at some other airport where the turnover is lower? Mr. Harvey, you said they start at $6.75; is that right? Mr. Harvey. That is correct. Senator Voinovich. Mr. La Pier, do you know what the security people get at your place? Mr. La Pier. I do not know. We are not privy to that information, sir. Mr. Baker. These folks, Senator, do not necessarily go from one security company to another. They leave the industry to other parts of the economy usually pursuing different hours of work or slightly higher wages in the fast-food industry. Senator Voinovich. But the point I am getting at is that, from your perspective, if you see those numbers, does anybody ever say, hey, what is the problem there? Is the salary level less at that place, the fringe benefits, the package less and that is why we are having the turnover, and do we need to do something about that? Mr. Baker. Realistically, I do not think so because they are not unusual, and they have been that way for a number of years, and we see it in other parts of our business, particularly in the last 2 or 3 years with a full economy. Senator Voinovich. Federalize it? Mr. Baker. Yes, sir. Senator Voinovich. Anybody disagree with that? Who pays for it? If we federalize it, who pays for it? Do the airlines pay for the federalization, and do you want the Federal Government to have Federal employees do it or do you want them to contract it out? What is your preference? Mr. Busick. Mr. Voinovich, I think that if you look at the system as a whole, there are portions of it that have to be done with general tax revenue. You have law-enforcement issues, you have intelligence issues, you have all of those issues that currently are paid for out of general revenues, and they need to continue to be paid for out of general revenues because they are very national security in nature, and you cannot parse out the portions of the CIA, the FBI or any of the other intelligence agencies to figure that out. On the other hand, the cost of the individual, of what Mr. Harvey does, that direct screener function, probably could be parsed out and that probably ought to be paid for by some user fee. Mr. Griggs. I do not think there is a passenger in the United States of America that would object to paying 50 cents to a dollar on a ticket in order to get adequate security. Senator Voinovich. But the question I have is if we federalize it, and it goes to the FAA or somebody else, you want them to do it themselves? Should they be Federal employees or do you think that they should hire private contractors? Mr. Griggs. My personal opinion, it should be a Federal employee, and he should be paid for by that agency's budget. Mr. Busick. Sir, I do not really have a preference. My concern is the quality of the screening process and making sure that whoever does it is required to be appropriately trained and actually be able to find the things we are looking for. Who the employer is, is much less important. Mr. Griggs. I think Monte Belger testified, sir, that they were looking at this, and I would wait for them to come back with what their recommendation was. I think they are looking at that specifically. Mr. Baker. Senator, our preference would be that it be a government-owned corporation so that we can gain the benefits of some of the flexibility inherent in that approach rather than simply tack it onto an existing department of the United States. I think probably the costs, rightfully, should be shared between those who use the aviation system and the General Treasury since this is a crime against America. This is just an example of terrorism in our country. They are not mad at the airlines. The airline was not the target, it was America. I think that we believe that is a national priority and certainly ought to be shared by all of the taxpayers of the country. But I think there is some sharing that needs to happen in there. We are spending a billion dollars. That certainly ought to be available, and if we want to do some more with the passengers, perhaps that is another approach. Senator Voinovich. And it is the cost of your ticket. I mean, you have to build that cost in across the board. Mr. Baker. One thing we would very much like to see if we go toward a surcharge of some type is that we would like to have that as an add-on specified charge below the fare so that we can continue to advertise a $200 fare and a $1 security surcharge so the American public sees that surcharge for what it is, and it does not get rolled up into the fare ball, and then we cannot show the American public what we are doing with the money. Senator Voinovich. Your costs went up three times. Is it because of insurance costs or are you hiring more people or are you paying higher wages or what? Mr. La Pier. That is simply personnel costs, sir. We have not---- Senator Voinovich. You are hiring more people then. Mr. La Pier. Actually, we are. Senator Voinovich. So that is why it went up. You did not raise the salary, you just hired more people. Mr. La Pier. Hired more people. Senator Voinovich. My last question, and I have taken enough time. I talked to somebody very high up in the government today, and I will not mention his name, but somebody very high up, and indicated that I am the Ranking Member of the Oversight of Government Management, Restructuring, and the District of Columbia, and the closing of Reagan National Airport has had a very negative effect. Well, 10,000-and-some employees out there that some of the representatives are concerned about here, and it is having a negative impact on the economy of D.C. But I think it is also having a negative impact in terms of people's confidence in security. And if the premier airport in the Nation's capital is not open because of security reasons, do you not think that sends a very bad signal out across the country, in terms of security, and that we ought to be doing everything we can to, as soon as possible, understanding how important security is, I would not want to risk that, but to get that airport open because it sends a major message out across the country? I would like your reaction. Mr. Baker. I, clearly, would support that view. We have moved our entire operation to Baltimore and Dulles, including the employees. I think there have to be ways that we can get a great deal more comfort that an airplane shooting the river approach, which is the one they are worried about, down the river, is in the hands of the right people before they allow it to shoot that approach. So I would be surprised if they do not find a way to get that open in a secure way in the next couple of weeks. Mr. Griggs. I also echo that. I think it is absolutely essential. It is the symbol of American air power and it is a symbol of the country. And if they keep that airport closed, it remains closed, that is a lesson that they have learned and they have won, and this really bothers me tremendously. Mr. La Pier. Senator, I would fully agree. I think that the airport needs to be opened. We cannot allow the people that perpetrated this crime to shut down a premier airport in the United States today. We need to look seriously at reopening that airport as soon as possible, if for no other reason than to show the terrorists that they did not win. Senator Voinovich. Thank you. Senator Durbin. Thank you. Senator Akaka. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR AKAKA Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I regret that I was not here earlier, but I wish to thank you, and Senator Lieberman, and Members of the Committee for having this hearing today. For a moment, I wish to speak particularly about Hawaii. Without question everyone knows how much Hawaii relies on air transportation. Hawaii depends on the commercial airlines for mail and cargo, as does Guam. It all stopped on September 11. There were several days there when nothing was delivered, and as a Senator, I heard from people who were asking for medicine and other necessities that were not delivered. Of course these problems were a result of what had happened. Who would ever think that somebody would use a 757 as a missile rather than as an airplane to carry people? This means that we must change our aviation security to make it safer and to detect any problems that might occur, some of which were mentioned here today. I am glad to see you here, Mr. Baker, and others of you on this panel representing the aviation industry. I have some questions, and, Mr. Chairman, I also have a statement that I would like to include in the record. Senator Durbin. Without objection. [The prepared statement of Senator Akaka follows:] PREPARED STATEMENT OF SENATOR AKAKA September 11, 2001, was a day America will never forget. We have all seen the tragic images of commercial airliners crashing into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. These terrorists, while aiming for symbols of our financial strength and military might, succeeded in targeting our sense of security. We long believed that our country was immune to such acts of violence. We now see that, with the ever widening gaps in our security systems, our Nation is no longer secure. And while we may never know exactly how the terrorists were able to board the planes, we must nonetheless implement new security measures to ward off future threats. First and foremost, we must take a critical look at our baggage screening process. The turnover rate and lack of training for screening personnel is alarming. Although the turnover rate for airport security personnel in Honolulu is 30 to 40 percent compared to 400 percent nationally and the employees there are well trained and tested repeatedly every day, Hawaii cannot afford to feel immune. For example, International Total Services, the company contracted to manage airline security at the Honolulu International Airport and at more than 100 other airports in 34 States, tested the effectiveness of the security checkpoints in which fake hand grenades were taped to wheelchairs. Sadly, in seven out of nine trials, the wheelchairs with the fake grenades passed through undetected. In another incident, just 4 days after the terrorist attacks, a person without a ticket was discovered beyond the security checkpoint at the airport in violation of FAA rules. Although Honolulu's airport prides itself on the training and low turnover rate of security personnel, more must be done to increase weapon detection. This is especially true for a State like Hawaii which is so reliant on air transportation. Steps must be taken to ensure that proper security measures are in place for large commercial airlines, small passenger planes, charter planes and cargo planes alike. As we review the passenger and baggage screening process, we must also consider whether we should invest in technologies such as high- resolution X-ray, cargo baggage imaging systems, or personal identification measures. However, as Congress pushes forward with much needed security measures in the next few weeks, we must be mindful not to erode our civil liberties. If through fear we become the military state of our enemies and cease to protect the freedom we so cherish, the terrorists would have accomplished their mission. They would have destroyed the very essence of America. I wish to express my sincere gratitude to the Chairman for holding today's important hearing. I look forward to hearing from our witnesses on how we can restore America's feeling of security in air travel. Senator Akaka. Mr. Baker, today we have been talking about the kind of problems that we have been facing and the cost to the airlines. When we talk about screening and security measures at the airport, we know that the airlines have been paying that bill. My question to you is if these systems are enhanced, and I am leaving aside the issue of lost revenues, what impact would it have on the carriers with this increased cost of security? Mr. Baker. I think that the economists that study our industry would suggest that as our costs go up for any reason, necessitating a fare increase to maintain the corporate entity, that the demand for our product will go in the opposite direction. The concept of elasticity of demand for our product is clearly there. As prices go up, demand goes down, and vice versa. So over the long run, increased costs drive increased fares that will have an adverse effect on demand. Then, as you know so well in Hawaii, we work very hard with all of the travel and tourism interests in Hawaii to try to keep the whole package of going to Hawaii affordable because we know what will happen if it gets out of sight--no one will go. So we are very sensitive to--over the long run--what happens to our costs and the effects on revenues that must come to cover those costs. Senator Akaka. As you know Hawaii is suffering tremendously. When a person called me and said, ``I just saw only one car in Waikiki,'' that gives you an idea of what is happening there. And the airlines of course are suffering. Mr. Harvey, you have been through the screening system, and have trained people to do it correctly. As a trainer of screeners, what challenges do you currently face in maintaining a competent workforce? Mr. Harvey. Well, it is really not, from a recruiting and hiring standpoint, I really do not have anything to do with that, but from a training standpoint, my goal all of the time is to make sure that each and every day, when we open up those security checkpoints at O'Hare, that I have well-trained, fully capable, fully qualified screeners on the checkpoint. Senator Akaka. When people apply for the jobs of being screeners, do you take any time to screen them? Mr. Harvey. Again, I say that I am not in the direct hiring process of screeners for our company, but what I do and take into account when they come into the classroom setting, there are two different settings that we have for the training of screeners. One, you have a 12-hour theoretical class. When they are in the 12-hour theoretical class, they are required not only to go through the theoretical class, but to take two X-ray image interpretation tests. They also have to take a language competency test, which is a 20-question test, and what I really look for is attitude. If they do not have the right attitude, then most of the time I make the decision not to let them go to our security checkpoints out at the airport. I will refer them back to our Human Resources people and see if we have anything else available for them in order to make an income. Senator Akaka. I wonder what you would suggest and recommend, since you have been a supervisor and trainer, and you have watched people come through the process. Would you have any thoughts or any recommendations as to how we can improve the system? Mr. Harvey. Well, one of the things that we can do to improve the system is just to make sure that we are very consistent. Everybody is talking about federalization of the screening process. The one thing that I can see that would be beneficial from my perspective would be that we be consistent throughout the system, no matter whether you are in Central Illinois or whether you are out at O'Hare, whether you are out at Reagan National Airport. We would all be doing exactly the same thing. We would all be trying to make the same decisions. The other thing is, as far as the technological advances go, at O'Hare, naturally, being one of the larger airports in the country, we have available to us all of the latest technology, as far as our X-ray machines, our walk-through metal detectors, our explosive trace detection equipment, the wireless communication with the threat imaging projection system, with our hand-held metal detectors. If that technology and equipment was available all the way across the country, now that would also enhance our capabilities of being a better screening operation. Senator Akaka. Thank you. Mr. Griggs, I want to conclude with you. Much attention has been focused appropriately on the security screening of airline passengers, but the level of sophistication and organization involved in the September 11 hijacks has raised concerns beyond the screening of passengers. Today's airports offer many conveniences. After you get through the checkpoint, there are restaurants and gift shops. How would the recommended security measures discussed today by our various witnesses address the physical screening of airport employees who work beyond security checkpoints? Mr. Griggs. Well, we are in the process at Lambert Airport--I cannot speak for other airports--of going through and revalidating everybody's badge. For example, if you had a badge, it is going to be revalidated. If you are like I am, can drive on the flight line, you have to have a background check done on you. So these are the kinds of things we can do. I think one of the ways the system broke down is this sharing of intelligence from the Federal level on down. I know, for a fact, that our FAA Civil Aviation Office was not provided some of these facts. We were actually getting, my chief of police was getting information from the FBI before the FAA was getting it. There is something wrong when that sort of thing happens. So I think irrespective of what you do on the Federal checkpoint, you have got to look at the whole system in totality--have we let an airplane crew member go through a checkpoint, have we let the concessionaire go through the checkpoint, have we delivered deliverables to that checkpoint to provide that restaurant service? And so the whole system has to be looked at. It is not just the checkpoint, it is the entire system and the way we operate. I think it was Monte Belger that summed it up, and Mr. Baker, who has got more experience than any of us, and that is the whole threat perception has changed. We had designed and put together a system that quite frankly it was more of a deterrent than it was an absolute guarantee we could get through this thing. Now we are facing a faceless enemy, and how do you face that? But it is something we have got to grow into, learn how to deal with it, and make sure we deal with it. That is what we are all talking about. Senator Akaka. Well, thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Durbin. Thank you, Senator Akaka. We have really focused almost all of our discussion today on commercial aviation and major airlines, and yet for most airports, almost all of the airports that I am familiar with and represented here today, they share the airport with general aviation. And general aviation, as we know it, operates by significantly different rules when it comes to security and screening. I have often wondered if it is still possible, as it was September 10, for me to charter a jet at an airport, you name it, and to get on that jet without anybody ever asking who I am, what my criminal record might be, and to carry on board a bagful of whatever--explosives, guns--and to be in a position to take a jet plane under the same type of control as happened on September 11. It seems clear to me that general aviation is going to have to go through some substantial changes for airport security and general security. Has anyone here addressed that or considered that aspect of this discussion? Mr. Baker, has that come up? Mr. Baker. Well, we have certainly talked a lot about it within the airline circles because if the threat assessment is that airplanes as ballistic missiles, and clearly corporate jets and other forms of general aviation are equally capable of flying the mission. So we are going to have to think that through. We are going to have to understand how to prevent that, just as we are trying to do it in commercial aviation, not only in the shared airports, but as you know there are a tremendous number of other airfields in the country where there are no air carriers, and I am not quite sure how to deal with that. But we have really got to sit down and define the threat and then build a plan to deal with it. But until we understand the threat, we are not probably going to hit the mark. So I think some hard work on that is going to come, and then the plan will flow out of that, but it is clearly an exposure. Mr. Busick. Senator, I am aware that the FAA is actually looking at airline or FAR 108-type regulations for aircraft over 12,500 pounds in the corporate fleet, charter fleet. So they are already looking at it. Senator Durbin. I think that Secretary Mineta might have mentioned that last week in testimony, but clearly the customers and personnel of general aviation are also in that same airport setting, in that same secure setting, and they have to be viewed, I hope, with the same level of scrutiny as anyone who would be involved in commercial aviation. I do not think that there is much doubt or question about that. Let me ask you, Mr. Harvey, you have been at this for 5 years; is that what your testimony is? And how often have you run into a situation at your security station where you had to call law-enforcement personnel? I know there are two times you mentioned in your testimony where you were given an award for your extraordinary service, but how often does that happen at an airport like O'Hare? Mr. Harvey. We probably run into--I will just give you a classic setting, the day of the incident--the very next day we caught a weapon on an employee coming through the checkpoint in their backpack. I think just last Saturday--we had three gun incidents, in the past week since the incident. So I would probably say we run into at least one a month, not so much because the person is trying to do anything to the airplane. Let me clarify that. Normally, it is a direct result of a person not understanding the law as it involves transporting a firearm from Point A to Point B. It is just the ignorance of the law, but screeners, at O'Hare anyway, they just do not miss weapons, not firearms, whether they are disassembled or whether they are assembled. Senator Durbin. Mr. Griggs, I know that O'Hare has exceptional devices that they use for bomb detection and other close scrutiny. I do not know if Lambert Airport does, but could either one of you tell me under what circumstances baggage or packages are referred to that kind of a device for examination. Mr. Griggs. I think, probably to be very frank, it has been on a random basis in the past. The whole thing again was a threat. It was a deterrent against a threat, and the threat, as we envisioned it, as the public understood it, as everybody understood it, that was the counterintelligence we had to counter against this. I think there could be better use of EDS systems, and I think airports are going to have to address this, and I think that the airlines are going to have to come to grips with it. If we have a system like this, we have to do it. Somehow we have got to get this cargo restored. Somehow the mail has got to be delivered. So all of these are deterrents that you can take and definite steps that would prevent some of this. We have the same surveillance equipment at our checkpoint that they have. It is just a matter of how it is used. We probably detect one or two guns a month, and basically most of it comes from just negligence on the part of the guy going through the checkpoint. ``I forgot to take the thing out. I am going hunting. I put it in the backpack,'' which they know they cannot do, but they get caught at it. Thank God they get caught at it. Senator Durbin. Thank you. Senator Voinovich. Senator Voinovich. I would like the permission of the Chairman to submit for the record a statement that I wanted to make. Senator Durbin. Without objection. [The prepared statement of Senator Voinovich follows:] PREPARED STATEMENT OF SENATOR VOINOVICH Good afternoon. I would like to thank Chairman Lieberman and Oversight of Government Management Subcommittee Chairman Durbin for calling this hearing this afternoon. As the Ranking Member of the Oversight of Government Management Subcommittee, I am pleased to be able to work with Chairman Durbin on the management practices of the Federal Government. This afternoon's joint full Committee and Subcommittee hearing focuses on how well our aviation security is being managed at our Nation's airports; an issue that is key to restoring faith in flying--a faith that is essential to the economy of our country. Mr. Chairman, the number one responsibility of the Federal Government is to ensure the safety and security of the citizens of the United States, and I am concerned that the government is not doing everything it can to ensure the safety of air travel. We need to determine whether allowing airports and airlines to be responsible for such a critical piece of our national security is appropriate in light of these recent acts of terrorism. At a hearing on the issue of airport security in the House of Representatives last week, Transportation Secretary Mineta announced one short-term fix that would require the imposition of stricter qualifications and training requirements for airport security personnel. Like most of my colleagues, I believe this is a necessary first step, however more must naturally be done. I look forward to discussing what additional steps today's witnesses believe should be taken to increase passenger safety and restore public confidence in air travel. I am pleased to report that this public confidence is already beginning to return; my flight from Cleveland to Washington earlier this week was packed. As Ranking Member of the District of Columbia Subcommittee, I understand the concerns both economically and symbolically of keeping National Airport closed. If the security needs can be addressed completely and thoroughly, which are our first priority, we should re-open the airport. I am also interested in discussing some of the issues raised in recent reports by the General Accounting Office and the Transportation Department's Office of the Inspector General; reports that are critical of the airport security industry for its alarmingly high rate of personnel turnover and the lack of incentives for airport security personnel. From my own experience as a chief executive of the City of Cleveland and of the State of Ohio, I know that such personnel concerns can only have a negative effect on the productive operation of one's enterprise. And when one's enterprise directly impacts the safety of millions of Americans, it is of particular concern to the U.S. Congress. I believe that adequate time and attention must be re-focused on improving employee incentives and addressing the high rate of turnover that plagues this profession. Finally, we need to remain vigilant in our effort to ensure the safety of air travel in this country. This can't be something that we react to during a time of crisis and then forget about once things settle down. Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank you again for calling this hearing today and I look forward to discussing how we can all work together to improve airline safety. Senator Voinovich. I would like to get back to the cost of paying for this federalizing of screening. Does your national organization have some information about the percentage of your costs that go into security? For example, the thing that I would love to see is you have a ticket, and what portion of that ticket is attributable to security? How much of that is going for security? I would also like to know, and I would, for the record, like to get the answer, the percentage increase that you have experienced over the last several years in your security costs, in terms of how it has impacted upon your bottom line. I would like to see how much the cost of living percentages have gone up. Has it been about what the cost of living is? Because we are going to have to get a handle, I think, on what the public is now paying as part of the ticket, in terms of screening. It gives us an idea of how much we should earmark for that purpose. Mr. Baker. We can try to develop those numbers through our industry association by asking the carriers to submit what they believe. These are difficult numbers to come by because the costs fall in lots of different buckets in the typical cost accounting system, but we will take that off and see if we can give you those kind of numbers. Senator Voinovich. I think it is important because I know when we finally get to this whole business, there is going to be an argument here in the Senate, and in the House, and maybe with the administration, about how do you allocate the costs of this, and it would be interesting to find out just how much right now the public is paying for security and does not know it. Thank you. Senator Durbin. I might say, Senator Voinovich, that I spoke to Senator Hollings this morning, and most of the bills that we are considering have a $1 surcharge on tickets. For the screening aspect of this, it is believed that the total cost, and I do not know how they come up with this number, would require a $4 surcharge for the screening part of this. So the question is how much would be general revenue, how much would be a ticket surcharge, and that has not been determined. Senator Voinovich. If he says $1 for a surcharge, if you look at what people are already paying for security, and I have no idea what it is, they could be paying $2 right now and not even know it or maybe it is more than that. Senator Durbin. That is right. I am sure we are going to explore that further. I want to thank the witnesses on this panel for coming forward today and really providing extraordinary testimony for this Governmental Affairs Committee. I thank you so much. I cannot think of anything more important for us to focus on, and you are going to help us understand it. The official record of the hearing will be open for Members to include statements and questions for the record, and the Committee stands adjourned. [Whereupon, at 5:50 p.m., the Committee was adjourned.] A P P E N D I X ---------- PREPARED STATEMENT OF SENATOR CLELAND Mr. Chairman, thank you for the opportunity to speak on such an important issue as airport security. The terrorist attacks on New York City and the Pentagon on September 11 forever changed the way Americans travel by air. Increased security at the nation's airports has become standard procedure but there is still much more to do to protect the traveling public. We need to ease the fears of flying Americans while we take steps to ensure that the events of September 11 never happen again. We should adopt measures that assure the traveling public that from the moment they cross the first airport checkpoint until they reach their destination, they will have the benefit of the best technology, the most highly trained professionals, and the most secure aircraft that this nation can provide. These measures may include the federalization of screeners as professionally trained as our Customs agents, the use of high-tech explosives detection equipment, state-of-the-art identification and expanded background checks of airport personnel, improved coordination of intelligence information, to name just a few of the proposals. In fact, I am cosponsoring Senator Hollings' Aviation Security legislation to improve airport safety, which is one alternative which must be considered. This legislation establishes a deputy administrator at the Federal Aviation Administration for Aviation Security; establishes an Aviation Security Council that will coordinate national security, intelligence, and aviation security information among several agencies; federalizes Airport Security Operations and improves training and testing for screening personnel; and improves the screening procedures for passengers by checking names against a coordinated database comprising criminal, national security, intelligence, and INS information. This hearing will examine whether the screening of passengers and baggage should be managed and operated by the Federal Government within an existing agency or a newly created not-for-profit Federal corporation. This entity would have the security of airport and air travelers as its primary focus. Such an organization would also ensure that passenger and baggage screeners have uniform, more strenuous training and performance standards that apply throughout the nation. According to transportation and airport experts, such a system would take time to develop even though a lot of the current proposals were suggested years ago. It is vital, now more than ever, to do more than just authorize commissions and reports that only define and analyze the problem. We must develop a comprehensive strategy for responding to the September 11 tragedies and we must give the appropriate agencies the ability to implement new security measures. We must do this now. I personally support fast tracking regulations which directly impact upon our national security. Too often and for far too long we have put on hold publishing final airport security rules because of political pressures. In the past, more stringent security measures have been recommended and rejected due to cost or pressure to keep fares reasonable and avoid undue inconvenience to travelers. In fact, the use of government employees to screen passengers and baggage was considered and rejected when passenger screening procedures first were implemented in 1973. Mr. Chairman and members of our distinguished panel, the threat of terrorism remains as high today as it was throughout the 1990's when a plot to destroy 12 United States airliners was discovered and thwarted in 1995. We must do better. The future of aviation security hangs on the actions that we take today to prevent future terrorist attacks on Americans. The American people and the world expect us to follow through this time--God only knows what may happen if we do not. Thank you Mr. Chairman. I look forward to hearing from today's witnesses on how together we can achieve a safer aviation industry. PREPARED STATEMENT OF SENATOR BUNNING Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I also want to thank our guests for being here today. What we witnessed on September 11 illustrates just how deeply certain groups hate America and the desperate measures they are willing to undertake to destroy us. I doubt there is anyone who questions whether we need to improve our airport security. Over the next couple of months, I expect Congress will be making many changes to our aviation system. We will be debating everything from hiring additional sky marshals to changing cockpit doors to possibly allowing pilots to carry weapons. Today, we are looking at the baggage and passenger screening system, and whether the Federal Government should play a role in this process. As several of our witnesses will testify and many government reports have indicated, the airport screening system has many flaws. Employees are paid low wages, with few or any benefits. Turnover is high. In fact, a GAO study indicates that the average turnover rate at 19 of the country's largest airports was 126 percent during a 1-year period. Other issues we will have to look at include the amount of training screeners receive along with the type of technology used to detect dangerous weapons. Commercial aviation is a critical industry in this country, and we do need to make some changes to ensure we have the best airport security possible. The American people are looking to us for answers and solutions during this difficult time. We have already seen the horrific damage terrorists can inflict when our airport security fails. The challenges of balancing increased security against the economic necessity of a vibrant airline industry is great. However, I am confident that we can strike that balance. Today's hearing should be another good step toward that goal. 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