[Senate Hearing 109-957] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] S. Hrg. 109-957 U.N. HEADQUARTERS RENOVATION: NO ACCOUNTABILITY WITHOUT TRANSPARENCY ======================================================================= HEARING before the FEDERAL FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, GOVERNMENT INFORMATION, AND INTERNATIONAL SECURITY SUBCOMMITTEE of the COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION __________ JUNE 20, 2006 __________ Available via http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/senate Printed for the use of the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs ______ U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 29-504 WASHINGTON : 2007 _____________________________________________________________________________ For Sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; (202) 512�091800 Fax: (202) 512�092250 Mail: Stop SSOP, Washington, DC 20402�090001 COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS SUSAN M. COLLINS, Maine, Chairman TED STEVENS, Alaska JOSEPH I. LIEBERMAN, Connecticut GEORGE V. VOINOVICH, Ohio CARL LEVIN, Michigan NORM COLEMAN, Minnesota DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii TOM COBURN, Oklahoma THOMAS R. CARPER, Delaware LINCOLN D. CHAFEE, Rhode Island MARK DAYTON, Minnesota ROBERT F. BENNETT, Utah FRANK LAUTENBERG, New Jersey PETE V. DOMENICI, New Mexico MARK PRYOR, Arkansas JOHN W. WARNER, Virginia Michael D. Bopp, Staff Director and Chief Counsel Michael L. Alexander, Minority Staff Director Trina Driessnack Tyrer, Chief Clerk FEDERAL FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, GOVERNMENT INFORMATION, AND INTERNATIONAL SECURITY SUBCOMMITTEE TOM COBURN, Oklahoma, Chairman TED STEVENS, Alaska THOMAS CARPER, Delaware GEORGE V. VOINOVICH, Ohio CARL LEVIN, Michigan LINCOLN D. CHAFEE, Rhode Island DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii ROBERT F. BENNETT, Utah MARK DAYTON, Minnesota PETE V. DOMENICI, New Mexico FRANK LAUTENBERG, New Jersey JOHN W. WARNER, Virginia MARK PRYOR, Arkansas Katy French, Staff Director Sheila Murphy, Minority Staff Director John Kilvington, Minority Deputy Staff Director Liz Scranton, Chief Clerk C O N T E N T S ------ Opening statements: Page Senator Coburn............................................... 1 Senator Collins.............................................. 6 Prepared statement: Senator Carper............................................... 33 WITNESSES Tuesday, June 20, 2006 Hon. John R. Bolton, U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations........................................................ 8 Anne Bayefsky, Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute; Professor, Touro Law Center; and Editor, www.EYEontheUN.org..................... 16 Claudia Rosett, Journalist-in-Residence, The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies......................................... 19 Thomas Melito, Director, International Affairs and Trade, U.S. Government Accountability Office............................... 22 Alphabetical List of Witnesses Bayefsky, Anne: Testimony.................................................... 16 Prepared statement........................................... 41 Bolton, Hon. John R.: Testimony.................................................... 8 Prepared statement........................................... 34 Melito, Thomas: Testimony.................................................... 22 Prepared statement........................................... 74 Rosett, Claudia: Testimony.................................................... 19 Prepared statement........................................... 65 APPENDIX Chart entitled ``Capital Master Plan Funding (in millions)''..... 94 Chart entitled ``Capital Master Plan''........................... 95 Questions and responses for the Record from: Mr. Bolton................................................... 96 Ms. Bayefsky................................................. 103 Mr. Melito................................................... 104 U.N. HEADQUARTERS RENOVATION: NO ACCOUNTABILITY WITHOUT TRANSPARENCY ---------- TUESDAY, JUNE 20, 2006 U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, and International Security, of the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Washington, DC. The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:30 p.m., in room SD-342, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Tom Coburn, Chairman of the Subcommittee, presiding. Present: Senators Coburn and Collins. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR COBURN Senator Coburn. The Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management of the Governmental Affairs and Homeland Security Committee will now come to order. I would announce at this time that the Senate has scheduled two votes at 2:45 p.m. We will make every effort to get through with our first panel, and then hold thereafter, and then vote, and then come back and resume. Less than a year ago, we had a hearing on this same topic concerning the $1.2 billion renovation fee concerning the United Nations Headquarters in New York City. Since that time, the price of the proposal, referred to as the capital master plan, has increased in price by 45 percent, is now at $1.7 million, and it comes in at almost $700 per square foot for renovation.\1\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The chart entitled ``Capitol Master Plan Funding (in millions) appears in the Appendix on page 94. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- To put it in perspective, the Ronald Reagan Building in Washington, DC, ground, land, every cost associated with it cost $263 a square foot. As you can see on our poster transparencies, the first principle of accountability, it has been almost impossible to get an itemized accounting on the money that has been spent thus far, as well as the cost projections that are coming from that. I would give credit to Fritz Reuter, in terms of the work he has done on materials, and costs associated with that. The people who have been advising this Subcommittee has felt that he has done a marvelous job in terms of his assessment of that. He pointed out, in addition to the already astronomical price, there are hidden execution costs that the United Nations has yet to consider. For example, there is no plan for the increased flow of traffic for security for hundreds of security workers. There is no plan for setting up a base of operations within the limited grounds areas. And there are no plans for inevitable delays in the nature of floor-by-floor renovations. In short, there is a lot missing from the proposal that could cause the project to take up to three times as long and cost at least twice as much. Even if the capital master plan price tag remains constant, and that is a big if, the U.S. share of the cost is going to be a half a billion dollars. That is on top of the regular dues of $423 million annually, plus all special contributions on the order of $2.4 billion. What is more, the United Nations is putting the cart before the horse a little bit. Despite the fact that the U.N. General Assembly has yet to formally approve the renovation proposal, the U.N. Budget Committee has gone ahead and asked for another $100 million to start the project. Even if the capital master plan is workable, it will still be carried out by the same system that is responsible for the Oil-for-Food scandal, the largest financial scandal in history. Not one thing has changed in the U.N. procurement system since the world learned about the horrific and criminal misuse of funds intended to feed and medicate desperate Iraqis suffering under Saddam Hussein. Instead, the funds were diverted to kickbacks, illegal oil vouchers, corrupt officials, Saddam's palaces and cronies, and a slew of U.N. officials and vendors. You would expect with revelations of this nature, the United Nations would have fired those responsible, that all involved would have been indicted and prosecuted, and that massive reform would have been undertaken internally. Instead, the United Nations has not changed anything about how it does its business. The United Nations has not fired anyone responsible for the massive abuse of power, and global taxpayer dollars associated with the Oil-for-Food program. To make matters worse, recent media reports and internal U.N. audits suggest the entire U.N. procurement system is plagued by corruption. In fact, as of last month, some of the vendors involved in the unfolding scandal are still doing business with the United Nations. Incredibly, a majority of the U.N. Member States have dug in to maintain the inexcusable status quo. Ironically, on the same day in April when the U.N. Budget Committee authorized more spending on the renovation project, the committee also voted down Secretary Kofi Annan's very modest and meager reform package. I note that the countries who voted down these reforms contribute 12 percent of the U.N. budget. The 50 nations who voted for the reforms contribute 87 percent. Those of us who pay most of the bills were outvoted by those who contribute much less to U.N. operations. And yet, some of these developing countries are the very ones that are most dependent on U.N. programs and who, in theory, should most want efficient, transparent, effective, and honest United Nations operations. For planning, design, and pre-construction of the renovation project, the United Nations has appropriated $152 million, and spent $36 million to date. It has been impossible to find out where that money has been spent. We were here last year asking the same questions about the $20 million or so that was supposedly spent on planning and design. We have now spent twice that and we cannot get access to the contracts, the actual outlay, the disbursements, telling us what we bought for this money. I would note that all industry experts tell us that planning and design should never exceed 6 percent of the total cost of the budget. We are at that. And we are not anywhere near beginning. Lack of transparency with spending on the capital master plan is only an example. From the little we do know from leaked audit documents and investigative reporting, internal U.N. auditors themselves have complained that the lack of transparency in procurement and management is leading to gross problems and waste, fraud, and other criminal activity. They have found that nearly a third of the $1 billion in contracts that they looked at--they only looked at $1 billion-- was lost to mismanagement and corruption. The equivalent of the entire U.S. portion of this procurement was lost to corruption. If we could save our peacekeeping donations to this waste and fraud in just 2 years, it would more than fund the U.S. portion of the capital master plan. Thanks in large part to our witness, Ambassador John Bolton, we have a window of opportunity to bring about reform in the United Nations. The Ambassador and our allies insist that the United Nations adopt important reforms before the entire biannual budget is approved. The deadline is fast approaching when the money will run out, and instead of passing the reforms required to improve the rest of the budget, the United Nations has voted down the reforms. Mr. Ambassador, I have to tell you, I am not sure how I can go back to Oklahoma and tell the people that we should just let it go and send more of their hard earned money to a system that is plagued by corruption, waste, and fraud. Monday, I traveled to the United Nations and met with Representatives from G-77 countries, including Chile, Egypt, India, Pakistan, Singapore, and Thailand. When I made the case for full transparency within the entire U.N. system, something similar to the Freedom of Information Act, and online availability of contracts, each of these Representatives wholeheartedly agreed that the United Nations must become transparent. This position was especially heartening, considering that the G-77 represents the overwhelming majority of the U.N. Budget Committee where such changes originate. On this same trip, I met with U.N. Deputy Secretary, General Mark Malloch Brown. Mr. Brown not only fully endorsed my call for transparency, but he also stated that he believes that the United Nations is well on its why to this type of accountability. Before I traveled to the United Nations, I met with the Ambassadors of the top donors of the United Nations, Japan, Germany, and Great Britain. These countries, combined with the United States, contribute over 56 percent of the operating budget, and each represented and agreed that the United Nations must become transparent. With such overwhelming agreement from the U.N. Secretariat, the top U.N. contributors, and key representative of the largest block of the United Nations, it is possible to immediately enact a resolution that would completely bring a full and complete transparency to the United Nations. I hope that officials that I met with are true to their word at next week's U.N. budget meeting. And despite the possibility that reforms are undermined again, it will, at the very least, enact some type of freedom of information. Without full transparency, there will never be full accountability at the United Nations. There is a rumble growing outside of Washington. People are fed up with this Congress, writing blank checks and not demanding performance and accountability. American people are demanding that elected officials safeguard their money better than we have done thus far. Today, a year after our hearing on this topic, there has been a little bit of improvement on transparency, for how money gets spent. The U.S. taxpayer is the largest donor to the United Nations, and Congress must demand the following: First post every contract and disbursement related to every contract for the capital master plan on a publicly accessible website. Second, publicly commit to and begin working on expanding that level of transparency to all U.N. contracts, grants, and internal procurement. Once we see a commitment to transparency, we can talk about approving the capital master plan and the rest of the U.N. budget. We are not even asking it for reform, or to clean up the mess, or prosecution of corrupt individuals or vendors at this point. All that we expect to come. All that we are asking today is for sunshine. Transparency, opening up the books so that the public, the press, the Member States, and the United Nations itself can see and know what is going on. In my field of medicine, we cannot treat a disease until we diagnose it. That is just the first step. And without this fundamental commitment to accountability, Americans and indeed, all global taxpayers cannot, in good conscience, continue writing blank checks to the U.N. system. We will work with the U.N. Appropriations Committee as well in the future. I want to thank all of the witnesses to being here today, and I look forward to hearing your testimony, and I would recognize now our Chairman of our full Committee, the Hon. Senator Collins. [The prepared statement of Senator Coburn follows:] PREPARED STATEMENT OF SENATOR COBURN Last July, this subcommittee held a hearing concerning the then $1.2 billion renovation proposal for the United Nations headquarters in New York City. Since that hearing, the price of the proposal, referred to as the Capital Master Plan, has grown 45 percent and is now priced at $1.7 billion. For a worksite that is over 2.5 million square feet, this would be $697/sq. ft. To put this into perspective, the Ronald Reagan Building here in Washington, DC only cost $263/sq. ft., but this was for a brand new building--not what should be a cheaper renovation. As you can see on our poster, transparency is the first principle of accountability. It has been almost impossible to get an itemized accounting for where these cost projections come from. So I have sought advice from construction experts in New York City to get their take on the project. They have pointed out that, in addition to the already astronomical price tag, there are hidden execution costs that the United Nations has yet to consider. For example, there is no plan for the increased flow of traffic through security for the hundreds of construction workers, there is no plan for setting up a base of operations within the limited grounds area, and there is no plan for inevitable delays due to the nature of floor-by-floor renovations. In short, there is a lot missing from the current proposal that could cause the project to take up to 3 times as long to complete at a cost many times higher than the current $1.7 billion price tag. Even if the Capital Master Plan's price tag remains constant--and that's a big ``if''--the U.S. share of the cost would be $485 million. That's on top of regular dues of $423 million annually plus all the special contributions, on the order of $2.4 billion. What's more, the United Nations is putting the cart before the horse a bit--despite the fact the U.N. General Assembly has yet to formally approve the renovation proposal, the U.N. budget committee has gone ahead and asked for another hundred million dollars to start the project. Even if the Capital Master Plan were workable--it will still be carried out by the same system responsible for the Oil for Food scandal--the largest financial scandal in history. Not one thing has changed in the U.N. procurement system since the world learned about the horrific and criminal misuse of funds intended to feed and medicate desperate Iraqis suffering under Saddam Hussein. Instead, the funds were diverted to kickbacks, illegal oil vouchers, corrupt officials, Saddam's palaces and cronies, and a slew of U.N. officials and vendors. You would expect with revelations of this nature, the United Nations would have fired those responsible, that all involved would have been indicted and prosecuted and that massive reform would have been undertaken internally. Instead, the United Nations has not changed a thing about how it does business. Not a thing. The United Nations has not fired anyone responsible for the massive abuse of power and global taxpayer dollars associated with the Oil For Food program. To make matters worse, recent media reports and internal U.N. audits suggest the entire U.N. procurement system is plagued by corruption. In fact, as of last month, some of the vendors involved in the unfolding scandal are still doing business with the United Nations. Incredibly, a majority of U.N. member states have ``dug in'' to maintain the inexcusable status quo. Ironically, on the same day in April when the U.N. Budget Committee authorized more spending on the renovation project, the committee also voted down Secretary General Kofi Annan's modest management reform package. I note that the countries who voted down these reforms contribute 12 percent of the U.N. budget. The 50 nations that voted for the reforms contribute 87 percent. Those of us paying most of the bills were outvoted by those who contribute much less to U.N. operations. And yet some of these developing countries are the very same ones most dependent on U.N. programs, and who in theory should most want efficient, transparent, effective and honest United Nations operations. For planning, design, and pre-construction of the renovation project, the United Nations has appropriated $152 million and spent $36 million to date. You would not believe how difficult it is to find out how that money has been spent. We were here last year, asking the same questions about the then-$20 million or so which was supposedly spent on planning and design. Now it's twice that, still being spent on planning and design, and we can't get access to the contracts, the actual outlays and disbursements telling us what we bought for this money. I note that industry experts tell us, as they told us a year ago, that design work should cost no more than 6 percent. Lack of transparency with spending on the Capital Master Plan is only an example. From the little we do know through leaked audit documents and investigative reporting, internal U.N. auditors themselves have complained that the lack of transparency in procurement and management is leading to gross problems with waste, fraud, and other criminal activity. They found that nearly a third of the $1 billion in contracts that they reviewed was lost to mismanagement and corruption--the equivalent of the entire U.S.-paid portion of this procurement was lost to corruption. If we could save our peacekeeping donations from this waste and fraud for just two years, it would more than fund the U.S. portion of the Capital Master Plan. Thanks in large part to the hard work of our witness, Ambassador John Bolton, we have a window of opportunity to bring reforms. The Ambassador and our allies insisted that the United Nations adopt important reforms before the entire biennial budget is approved. The deadline is fast approaching when the money will run out, and instead of passing the reforms required to approve the rest of the budget, the United Nations has voted DOWN the reforms. I have to tell you, Mr. Ambassador, I'm not sure how I go back to Oklahoma and tell people that we should just let that go, and send more of their hard-earned money into a black hole. Last Monday, I traveled to the United Nations and met with representatives from G77 countries including Chile, Egypt, India, Pakistan, Singapore and Thailand. When I made the case for full transparency within the entire U.N. system--similar to the Freedom of Information Act here in the United States--each of these representatives wholeheartedly agreed that the United Nations must become transparent. This admission was especially heartening considering the G77 represents the overwhelming majority on the U.N. budget committee where such changes originate. On this same trip, I also met with U.N. Deputy Secretary-General Mark Malloch Brown. Mr. Brown not only fully endorsed my call for transparency, but he also stated that he believes the United Nations is well on its way to this type of accountability. Furthermore, before I traveled to the United Nations, I met with the ambassadors of top donors to the United Nations--Japan, Germany, and Great Britain. These countries, combined with the United States, contribute over 56 percent of the U.N. operating budget, and each representative agreed that the United Nations must become transparent. With such overwhelming agreement from the U.N. Secretariat, the top U.N. contributors, and key representatives of the largest voting block at the United Nations, it is possible to immediately enact a resolution that would bring complete transparency to the United Nations--a Freedom of Information resolution where member states, the press, and the general public have the right and ability to see exactly how the U.N. system is spending its money and conducting its business. I hope that the officials I met with are true to their word in next week's U.N. budget meetings and, despite the possibility that reforms are undermined again, will at the very least enact a Freedom of Information resolution. Without full transparency, there will never be accountability at the United Nations. There is a rumble growing outside the Beltway. People are fed up with Congress writing blank checks and not demanding performance and accountability. American people are demanding that their elected officials safeguard their money better than we have been. Today, a year after our first hearing on this topic, there has been little improvement in transparency for how money gets spent. The United States tax payer is the largest donor to the United Nations, and Congress must demand the following:First, post every contract and disbursement related to every contract for the Capital Master Plan on a publicly-accessible web site. Second, publicly commit to and begin work on expanding that level of transparency to all U.N. contracts, grants, and internal procurement. Once we see a commitment to transparency, we can talk about approving the Capital Master Plan and the rest of the U.N. budget. We're not even asking yet for a reform or clean-up of the mess or prosecutions of corrupt individuals or vendors at this point--although we expect that to come. All we're asking for today is sunshine--opening up the books so that the public, the press, Member States and even the United Nations, itself, can see what is going on. In my field of medicine, we can't treat a disease until we diagnose it. This is just a first step, and without this fundamental commitment to accountability, Americans, and indeed, all global taxpayers, can not, in good conscience, continue writing blank checks to the U.N. system. We will be working with the Appropriations Committee on this problem as well. I want to thank all the witnesses for being with us here today. I look forward to hearing your testimony. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR COLLINS Senator Collins. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First, let me thank you for convening this hearing today and giving us the opportunity to further examine how American tax dollars are being spent and, in some cases, misspent, by the United Nations. Given that the United States contributes so much to the U.N. budget, it is our responsibility to continually push for management reforms and transparency in U.N. processes and spending. Senator Coburn, I know that you share my fondness for Justice Brandeis' quote about ``sunshine being the best disinfectant.'' And I think that the work that you are doing is trying to shine more light into the dark corners of the United Nations. I hope that this hearing will help keep the pressure on the United Nations to be more transparent in its actions because a lack of transparency and a lack of oversight provide fertile ground for waste, corruption, and scandal, which will in turn further undermine the credibility of the United Nations at a time when we need to work to restore it. Let me indicate that I understand that the 54-year-old headquarters is badly in need of renovation. That is not the issue. I know that it is riddled with asbestos, that it lacks fire detectors, a sprinkler system, and other emergency safety devices. I know the United Nations has been working for some 6 years on a renovation plan for the building. But I am very concerned about the escalation of cost and I am particularly concerned by the Subcommittee's findings that the square foot cost for the U.N. renovation is in the neighborhood of $697 per square foot, nearly three times the cost per square foot of building new State Department offices across the street from the U.N. building in New York. I am also concerned when I hear well-known developers tell us that the U.N. renovations can be accomplished at a fraction of the current cost estimate. So those are very troubling to me. I do not dispute that the building is in need of substantial renovations, but I am very troubled when I hear of escalating, apparently out of control, cost estimates, the difficulty in finding out exactly what is going on, which the Chairman has alluded to, and the fact that the cost estimates seem so high when compared to other building projects. So, I very much appreciate that the Ambassador is here personally today to shed some light on these very troubling issues. And I commend you, Mr. Chairman for pursuing this issue. [The prepared statement of Senator Collins follows:] OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR COLLINS Senator Coburn and Senator Carper, I would like to thank you for convening this hearing today, giving us an opportunity to further examine how American tax dollars are spent--and sometimes misspent--by the United Nations. Given that the United States contributes so much to the United Nation's budget, it is our responsibility to continually push for management reforms and transparency in U.N. processes and spending. Senator Coburn, I know you share my fondness for Justice Brandeis' quote that a little ``sunshine is the best disinfectant.'' I appreciate the work from you and Senator Carper in trying to shine more light in the dark corners of the United Nations. I hope that this hearing will help keep pressure on the United Nations to be more transparent in its actions, because a lack of transparency and oversight provides fertile ground for corruption and scandal, which will further undermine the credibility of the United Nations, rather than restore it. Let me indicate that I understand the United Nations headquarters is badly in need of renovation. I know that it is riddled with asbestos, and that it lacks fire detectors, a sprinkler system, and other emergency safety devices. I know the United Nations has been working on a renovation plan. But I am very concerned about the escalation of cost. I do not dispute that the building is in need of substantial renovations, but I am very troubled when I hear of escalating cost estimates, the difficulty in finding out exactly what is going on, and the fact that the cost estimates seem so high when compared to other building projects. I thank you again for holding this hearing. I look forward to the light our witnesses can shine on management practices at the United Nations, particularly concerning the renovation of the U.N. headquarters. Senator Coburn. Thank you, Senator Collins. I should make something clear. It has been stated that Secretary Mark Malloch Brown stated that Americans do not value the positive contributions that the United Nations makes. Nothing could be further from the truth. We recognize this, but that is not an excuse to not ask that our money be spent wisely, appropriately, so that the things that the United Nations can do, in terms of making a difference in millions of peoples lives all over the world, will be more effective. And so that statement I took both personally as in error, but also somewhat insulting to the people of this country. We want the United Nations to be effective. We value its purposes and its goals. Let me introduce our first witness, Ambassador John Bolton was appointed by President Bush as the U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations on August 1, 2005. Prior to his appointment, he served as Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security from May 2001, to May 2005. He spent many years of his career in public service with the Departments of State and Justice, as well as the USAID. Ambassador Bolton, we welcome you to the Subcommittee. As I said, we will try to get through with your testimony and you are now recognized. TESTIMONY OF THE HON. JOHN R. BOLTON,\1\ U.S. PERMANENT REPRESENTATIVE TO THE UNITED NATIONS Ambassador Bolton. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, for holding this hearing today, and the opportunity to testify today and Madam Chairman, I appreciate your coming by, as well. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Ambassador Bolton appears in the Appendix on page 34. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Chairman, I have a written statement, if I could submit that for the record, and try and summarize it. I have to say, starting off, that I am very pleased with your chart up there, starting with the word accountability and going down through transparency and some of the other words that are exactly what we have in mind for our overall U.N. reform program, and I appreciate the Committee's and the Subcommittee's interest in the subject because it is entirely legitimate and we welcome the oversight and scrutiny that we get in support of this reform effort. Specifically, today, with respect to the capital master plan, there is no question that the existing U.N. buildings are in need of renovation. They do not meet the health and safety and fire standards that are required of other buildings in the State of New York, 4,300 people, roughly, work in the complex, and there are some 300,000 tourists a year that go through, 40 percent of them are Americans. So, I think the case is made for the renovation. We are the U.N. largest contributor. We are the host country, so we have a lot of direct interest in insuring that what the United Nations calls the capital master plan, which is the name for the renovation, is carried out expeditiously and in a cost effective and transparent manner. The U.N. General Assembly is currently debating a number of proposed strategies as to how to accomplish the renovation of the existing buildings and we favor what is called Strategy IV, which involves building a temporary structure on the North Lawn of the U.N. Building and premises, so that the renovation of the office building and the conference space can be accomplished several floors at a time over a defined period. The estimate, as you said, for this Strategy IV, is approximately $1.8 billion, which we would bear 22 percent. What we did in evaluating the United Nations estimates was set up a U.S. Government-wide task force with representatives from the State Department, including the overseas building office, which is the entity within the State Department which has expertise on these matters, to evaluate the estimates and the task force's conclusion was that option 4 was the option to support. Now, we have worked within the General Assembly to try and provide the initial funds that the United Nations has needed to begin pre-construction work on the renovation. Approximately $20 million has been spent from the funds authorized by the General Assembly last month. Before further expenditure is allowed we think we need a decision from the General Assembly on which strategy to pursue. Our sense, as of this day, and literally, the Fifth Committee is meeting this week on this subject, but our sense as of today is that Strategy IV will be the one that is accepted. What we can and will do during the implementation of the renovation is to watch closely how the process unfolds, work with experts in our overseas building office and Members of Congress to try and provide the kind of transparency that I think would be necessary to insure that estimate is not exceeded. And that is a concern that we have and that we have expressed because we feel that it is important to try and accomplish this work in a cost effective manner. It is also, I might say, Mr. Chairman, consistent with our overall U.N. reform efforts. We are in the middle, right now, of a substantial effort on both management reform and on reviewing all of the U.N. actual programs, the so-called mandate review. We have not had success, to date, in the management reform area. A number of reforms, as I think you mentioned, proposed by the Secretary-General were defeated in a vote by the Fifth Committee a few months ago. But we continue to reach out to the countries within the G-77. We think that this is important to try and explain to them that reform is not simply a U.S. interest, but that it is in the interest of all of the member governments of the United Nations, because if the organization can become more effective, more efficient, more agile, more able to deal with contemporary problems, we and other countries are more likely to turn to it for the solution of those problems. We have also reached out in some unprecedented directions to try and get a better understanding on how these reforms will play out. Last week, I met with the leadership of the United Nations Staff Union, the first time to our knowledge that an American Ambassador has met with representatives at the Staff Union. They had some very interesting things to say that tied directly into concerns that we had about procurement reform and the like. The Staff Union is very concerned that the new whistle blower protection regulations and the new ethics office that has been created by the Secretary are not sufficient to provide real protection for potential whistle blowers. And the point they made was entirely congruent with our own thinking, and I think the thinking of the Committee and the Subcommittee, is that, at bottom, the problem with the procedure is that there simply is not enough transparency to protect U.N. Staff employees who might come forward with whistle blowing kinds of suggestions. The reforms that we are talking about are far reaching, there is no question about it. But let me just read, very briefly, a couple of sentences from Secretary-General Kofi Annan that I think exactly summarize our views. The Secretary- General, in presenting his management reform suggestion, said, ``The earlier reforms address the symptoms more than the causes, of our shortcomings. It is now time to reach for deeper, more fundamental change. What is needed, and what we now have a precious opportunity to undertake, is a radical overhaul of the entire Secretariat--its rules, its structures, its systems--to bring it more in line with today's realities, and enable it to perform the new kinds of operations that Member States now ask expect of it.'' That is a very good statement of the U.S. position, Mr. Chairman, because of the importance that we see in that kind of radical overhaul of the entire Secretariat. And I will just close with one area of particular interest to us, and that is strengthening the independence and capabilities of the Office of Internal Oversight Services at the United Nations (OIOS), which was set up in the early 1990's as a result of then Under Secretary-General Dick Thornburgh's work. He was trying, as President Bush 41, last high appointment in the U.N. system trying to create an Inspector General for the United Nations, something that we are all familiar with in the U.S. Government. He was not able, despite really Herculean efforts, to get a truly independent inspector general's office. OIOS is what has resulted and it is this office that we are going to try and improve, strengthen and make more independent. Now, I will just read to you the estimate of David Walker, the Controller General of the United States of the GAO's assessment of the OIOS because I think this is important. The Controller General said, U.N. funding arrangements constrain OIOS's ability to operate independently as mandated by the General Assembly and required by international auditing standards OIOS has adopted. OIOS depends on the resources of the funds of the entities that it audits. The managers of these programs can deny OIOS permission to perform work, or not pay OIOS for services. U.N. entities could thus avoid OIOS audits and investigations and high-risk areas can be and have been excluded from timely examination. This is exactly the kind of problem identified by Paul Volcker in his role as an independent Commissioner examining the mismanagement and corruption found in the Oil-for-Food program. We think these are very necessary reforms that are needed generally, but I think would be particular helpful as the capital master plan unfolds in its implementation. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, Senator Collins. I would be very pleased to try and answer any questions you may have. Senator Coburn. Well, let us talk about OIOS for a minute, and in fact, it makes the presentation that it is an auditing agency, but it is at the mercy of whoever it audits; is that correct? Ambassador Bolton. That is essentially our conclusion. We think it really needs to be made independent, like inspector general offices are. I have seen, I can tell you of my own personal knowledge, examples of senior U.N. administrators who have blocked OIOS investigations and they have argued, well, you are interfering with our ongoing operations. I think there is a legitimate concern that operations not be interfered with, but there is no legitimacy to saying that OIOS cannot investigate allegations of mismanagement or corruption and that is something that needs to be instilled throughout the U.N. system. Senator Coburn. Is there anybody that you talked with in the United Nations that will verbalize the reason why they might object to sunshine and transparency on the operations of the United Nations? Ambassador Bolton. Well, I think nobody would say so in so many words. Nobody would say, we want to do all of this in the dark. But I think the unspoken obstacle that we find is that we are talking about practices that have built up over a 60-year period. None of this happened overnight. It is a way of operating that has been essentially without significant external oversight and transparency for a very long period of time. For example, a number of people have commented that the investigation that former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker did of the Oil-for-Food program overstated the extent of the problem because after all, what happened in the Oil-for-Food program was not untypical of the way other U.N. programs are managed. And I think that is true, and that is Chairman Volcker's central insight. Senator Coburn. Well, that is very telling. Ambassador Bolton. Exactly. Senator Coburn. Because if you are comparing to a very low standard, that it is not very surprising that nobody is reacting to it the way we are. Ambassador Bolton. The most important think Chairman Volcker said was that the problems, the mismanagement and the corruptions of the Oil-for-Food program did not begin with the Oil-for-Food program. They reflect practices and personnel that came from the central U.N. system and therefore, reform from Chairman Volcker's point of view was not simply fixing some problems from the Oil-for-Food program, but went directly to changes that needed to be made in the central U.N. management structure. And we concur with Chairman Volcker's analysis. Senator Coburn. Well, how does that fit with the billion dollars audited on peacekeeping operations where they found a third of it was on waste, fraud, and abuse? Ambassador Bolton. Well, this is a significant study, and this was an OIOS study. It was fairly limited, actually. It considered a little bit over a billion dollars worth of contracts over a 5-year period--just concluded--and if you add up the OIOS conclusions about fraud, waste, mismanagement, and effective spending, the range that they came up with out of that roughly one billion dollars of expenditures was somewhere between $268 and $310 million. And, as you pointed out in your opening statement, U.S. share of peacekeeping expenses is 27 percent. So, 27 percent of a billion dollars is $270 million, which means that the potential area of waste, fraud, and abuse is exactly equal to the entire American contribution. It is a hard point to make to American taxpayers that our 27 percent somehow got wasted. Now, there are various responses that have been made to OIOS. And look, they are not perfect any more than any other inspector general office in the U.S. system is. If people have different information, I think they should bring it forward and we can debate it. But whether it is $268 million, or maybe it was just $258 million that was potentially misspent, this is a significant amount of money. One of the highest U.S. priorities is peacekeeping, so this is a matter of considerable concern to us, and I think appropriately so. Senator Coburn. Ambassador Bolton, does anybody have any idea what the total budget is for the United Nations? Ambassador Bolton. Well, there are ways of looking at the various agencies and components of the U.N. system and trying to aggregate their budgets, but even the United Nations, itself, would tell you, even the central U.N. financial office would tell you that they cannot give you a total figure. An analogous problem is that we cannot give you a total figure on what the U.S. contributions to the various--to the U.N. system as a whole as we can define. And, in some cases, the assessed contributions and the voluntary contributions funded under the 150 accounts--but because many departments of the U.S. Government make their own contributions separately and aggregated those contributions into one number--I am not aware at the moment that we have such an aggregate number. Senator Coburn. I would just advise you that this Subcommittee has already asked the GAO for that. We are going to have that and we are going to know what it is. Ambassador Bolton. I would be very interested to know myself. Senator Coburn. I think it is just symbolic of the problems that nobody can ask you anywhere in the United Nations what the budget is for the United Nations. Nobody knows, and you cannot run any organization if somebody is not in charge and somebody does not know what the budget is. I am going to defer, for a moment, to the Chairman of my full Committee, Senator Collins. Senator Collins. Well, I just want to second your comment about the overall budget. The only other entity that the Federal Government devotes considerable resources to and the budget is not made public is for our intelligence agencies, and I would argue that the aggregate number for that should be made public to promote more accountability. I want to return, Mr. Ambassador, to the issue of the OIOS because that is supposed to be the U.N. equivalent of an inspector general. The Inspectors General throughout the Federal Government are the watchdogs for waste, fraud, and abuse. It seems to me what you have at the United Nations is a watchdog that is toothless, that has to get permission in order to investigate an act. And indeed, your written statement is even stronger than your oral testimony. You describe the office as itself becoming part of this opaque and inbred system. What specifically is the U.S. mission doing to promote true independence for the OIOS? Ambassador Bolton. There are several aspects, Senator. The first is that its budget has to be independent. It cannot go to the programs that it wants to inspect or audit and ask that its operations be funded. Second, it needs to be able, when it requires documents, computer disks, interviews with personnel, it needs to be able to get access to that information. Third, it needs to be able to operate without command influence from higher U.N. management, and I can say, I have been a senior official to a number of government departments, IG inspections can be difficult and people recognize that, but unless the inspector general can really operate independently, if top management can sit on their request, they are never going to be able to succeed. So, there are a range of things that we are trying to do. We have tried to promote more open access for the Under Secretary-General who is in charge of the office. And I just give you one example of how that has been frustrated when the Under Secretary was President of the Security Council in February, I invited Under Secretary-General Ahlenius to come and tell us about the audit on the procurement fraud and the then Chief of Staff, Mark Malloch Brown, now Deputy Secretary- General, prevented her from speaking to the Security Council. I was quite concerned about that. I remain quite concerned about that. We, the members of the United Nations, the governments, the people who are paying the bills, should have direct access to OIOS reports and personnel so that we can understand better what the problems are so that we can try to fix the problems. Senator Collins. I hope that you will continue to push on that. I cannot help but think that if the United Nations had an independent IG, a real IG, that the Oil-for-Food scandal would have been discovered a lot sooner and that a lot of the procurement abuses also would have been detected earlier. So, I think this has to be a priority. In some ways, having an office that supposedly is the watchdog, but in fact is beholden to the people in the programs it investigates, is almost worse than nothing because it creates the appearance that is totally at odds with reality. Ambassador Bolton. I agree with you entirely. I think that is a real problem. I do not think it benefits the United Nations not to have a fully independent OIOS or inspector general, whatever one might want to call it. No institution is perfect. The U.S. Government certainly is not perfect. The IG offices perform an important function and it may cause some temporary embarrassment to individual employees who are not doing their jobs. But again, for the member governments, and this is a member government organization. This is not for the benefit of the Secretariat, we need these kinds of tools. We need other things that, for example, Chairman Volcker recommended, a really effective outside auditing capability, able to go in and oversee the existing internal audits and insure that the audit function is being carried out in a responsible fashion. These are not oppressive changes. They are changes that I think most people looking at any large organization would say are the absolute minimum that should be accomplished. Senator Collins. Is the OIOS looking at the cost growth in the renovations planned, and why the cost per square foot is so much higher than for what appears to be comparable renovation projects? Ambassador Bolton. I am not aware that they are looking into it. Their mandate so far has been simply looking at things that have already occurred, as opposed to more forward-looking kinds of investigations. But again, as we have seen, inspector generals can come up with all kinds of useful recommendations on reorganizations, restructurings of our cabinet departments, and I think a more independent OIOS could engage in some of these broader, more helpful activities. Senator Collins. I agree. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Coburn. I would just note for the record that it took an outside reporter to discover the Oil-for-Food scandal. It was not discovered within--and that is one of our witnesses today. Ambassador, should it be the U.S. position, in terms of funding the capital master plan, that there ought to be transparency and accountability and competitive bidding on this project? Ambassador Bolton. I think we ought to be able to find a way to do this. I have heard from many people in New York, and I would say that they undoubtedly have commercial interests of their own, but any number of people who say this could be done in different, more efficient, lower cost ways. Now, one of the reasons we turned to our overseas building office in the State Department is that they do have expertise in this matter, but I think that we need to keep them engaged. I hope we can keep them engaged over the life of the renovation so that the costs do not escalate. With Mr. Reuter departing, I think that is an unfortunate circumstance. Probably good for him personally but unfortunate for the organization. And I think that it is important that Chris Burnham, who is doing, in my view, an outstanding job as Under Secretary-General for Management, gets support from us and other major contributors to keep a tight rein for expenditures on the project. If the transparency were demonstrated, I think there would be confidence that if the program did run into difficulties that it was not through malfeasance or corruption, but that the difficulties were legitimate. So, I think it would strengthen support of the project to have it open and transparent. Senator Coburn. At the end of this month, the budget cap is probably going to come up for debate as our position that we are going to take in terms of increasing the OIOS office. Are the things that we are going to be demanding happen if this thing ends up being released? Are we going to make any progress, and how are we going to get there? Ambassador Bolton. Well, we are down really to a few days before the likely effectiveness of the budget cap. The European Union, Japan, and the United States have expressed very similar views on how we see this playing out. We all said it at a meeting of the G-77 conference, the developing countries, last week, where our view is that the best outcome would be that we all agree by consensus to lift the budget cap with significant reforms having been agreed to by June 30, and with a road map laid out in terms of the end of the year of how to accomplish the rest of the work. It is not realistic to think that we are going to accomplish everything by June 30. We understand that. We are not insisting on it. We think that we can have a plan of work for the rest of the year. We have identified three broad areas where we would like to see reform. First is the management area, what I call the traditional management tools, procurement, personnel, information technology, and so on. Second is the accounting, auditing, oversight, transparency area. Third is the program review area. We would like to see progress in all three areas or at least some combination that really gets us a good start. The major contributing countries hold that view. We are in negotiations now. It could go right to the last minute, but we are going to pursue these reforms because we think they are important. Senator Coburn. I want to ask you, just as our representative to the United Nations, that you can assure the American people that there is an accountability view, in terms of their dollars. Can you assure us that? Ambassador Bolton. I do not think I can, Senator. I mean, what I think I can assure you is that we are going to work very hard as the U.S. mission and State Department and the U.S. Government to achieve that. But right now, the problems identified by Chairman Volcker and the Oil-for-Food scandal largely remain. The reforms we would like to see put in place have not been put in place and we need to work to continue to achieve those reforms. Senator Coburn. Is there transparency at the United Nations? Ambassador Bolton. Not sufficiently. Not at all. And that is not just the American view. I think that if you have a chance to read that report by the Staff Union's Council, it makes for very interesting reading. Senator Coburn. And finally, I guess the key will be whether or not the United Nations is responsive, is on the basis of what happens in the next couple of weeks in terms of moving toward some of these changes of accountability. Ambassador Bolton. Well, it is a test for the United Nations, Senator. There is no question about it. And I hope that you and Senator Collins and other Members of the Committee will have the opportunity to stay involved in this issue because I know it is important to many Members of Congress on a bipartisan basis and it should be. It is important for all of us and the more work we do together I think increases the chances that we will be successful. But the grade so far is incomplete, at best. Senator Coburn. One final question. In my mind, the United States, given the size of this capital master plan, should put a maximum limit on what it will contribute to this. And if it is 23 percent of $1.8 billion, or whatever it is, but knowing how things work, $1.7 billion will soon become $2.2 billion, will soon become $2.5 billion, and I think it is a very important that we send a signal to the United Nations that we want transparency. We want open and honest accountability of this project. And we are going to insist on it. One of the ways we are going to insist is we are going to limit the amount of money that we are going to contribute to it, knowing that we are talking about, at a minimum, $700 per square foot to renovate a building. Ambassador Bolton. Well, I certainly hope they hear you in New York, Mr. Chairman. Senator Coburn. Well, I assure you that it is going to be on our Appropriations Bill. Mr. Ambassador, thank you. We have a vote on, which I have to take. We will take it very quickly-- we have actually two votes. I will get there and hopefully we will be back in about 15 minutes. We will resume the hearing then. The hearing is in recess until that time. [Recess.] Senator Coburn. The Subcommittee will come to order. Because of some flight delays and problems, I am going to introduce in the order in which I am going to ask for testimony. Dr. Anne Bayefsky is a Senior Fellow with the Hudson Institute, Professor at the Touro Law Center, editor of the website www.EYEontheUN.org. Before joining Hudson, she was an adjunct Professor and associate research scholar at Columbia University Law School, and has done extensive human rights work for many years. Claudia Rosett is a Journalist-in-Residence at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy. She writes on international affairs with a focus on democratic movements and despotic regimes. She has been widely credited for breaking the Oil-for-Food scandal and other aspects of waste, abuse, and corruption at the United Nations. Currently based in New York, Ms. Rosett has reported from Asia, the former Soviet Union, Latin America, and the Middle East. Thomas Melito is the Director of International Affairs and Trade Team at the U.S. Government Accountability Office. He is responsible for GAO's review of international finance, both collateral institutions, including the United Nations, the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund. His education includes a B.S. in Industrial Labor Relations from Cornell University, an M.A. and Ph.D. in Economics from Columbia University. Dr. Bayefsky. TESTIMONY OF ANNE BAYEFSKY,\1\ SENIOR FELLOW, HUDSON INSTITUTE; PROFESSOR, TOURO LAW CENTER; AND EDITOR, WWW.EYEONTHEUN.ORG Ms. Bayefsky. Thank you very much. I appreciate your invitation and I think the subject of the matter of today's hearing is of great importance. I appreciate your holding it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Ms. Bayefsky appears in the Appendix on page 41. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's headline is that the crisis at the United Nations has been averted. Secretary-General Kofi Annan has made a formal request for the spending cap to be lifted, and most observers assume that he has done so with the blessing of Secretary of State Rice, who has assured him that the United States will not vote against a resolution to this effect. At a news conference late last week, Annan said that ``the cap on the budget will be lifted. There will be no crisis.'' To put the current situation into perspective, therefore, the whole dynamic has changed 180 degrees since the U.N. September summit, where world leaders committed themselves to U.N. reform. 10 months later, the crisis became the spending cap, not the failure to reform. The crisis was not the inability of an international organization dedicated to protecting us from threats to international peace and security to declare Iranian nuclear ambitions a threat and to sanction its government. The crisis was not a human rights commission, which had some of the world's worst human rights abusers deciding what counted as a human rights violation, replaced by a council with the likes of Cuba, China, and Saudi Arabia right back on. The crisis was not the Oil-for-Food scandal in which billions were stolen from people in need and used to maintain despotism at its worst. The crisis was not the sight of U.N. peacekeepers that raped their wards. The crisis was not the failure to stop genocide in Sudan by an institution founded on ``never again.'' The crisis was not a U.N. renovation plan, hundreds of millions of dollars more than independent developers thought was necessary to do the job. The crisis was not 9,000 different mandates created by the United Nations haphazardly over decades, which have never been reviewed, consolidated or rationalized. No, the crisis was the G-77, the U.N. majority, the Secretary-General, and his Deputy, Mark Malloch Brown, was the so-called ``artificial leverage'' of linking the obligation to pay for the corruption and mismanagement to the corruption and mismanagement itself. So, what happened after the pages of ambiguous promises made in last year's summit? Faced with the prospect of endangering an entrenched culture of blank checks, and entitlements flowing in one direction, the U.N. majority and its secretariat had a lot to lose. So, they took the offensive and showed not the slightest reticence in making their demands plain: LDevelopment dollars fully directed by the recipient; Lno cost cutting, any dollar saved anywhere to be redirected to developing countries; Lthe retention of 97 percent of U.N. mandates without a question asked, a General Assembly which retains the power to micromanage as it sees fit; Lmore representation on U.N. bodies for developing countries; Lmore jobs in the U.N. Secretariat for their nationals; Land a guaranteed piece of the action in the U.N. multibillion dollar renovation plan. And yet it was not their audacity that attracted attention, it was the attempt by the American U.N. Ambassador and Members of Congress to say enough. American taxpayer deserved better. The deluge of U.N. hate speech which followed was voluminous: The U.S. was responsible for non-cooperation, politicization, conditionality. Deputy Secretary-General, Mark Malloch Brown decided to eschew the Un-eeze. He took direct aim at the ignorance of ``Middle America'' and the Administration's failure to do an adequate selling job. The Secretary General and his Deputy were worried about a possible paradigm shift. They even spoke of the United Nations facing a moment of truth. But that moment appears to have come and gone, despite the current state of U.N. ``reform.'' LManagement reform has run into a brick wall with the G-77, majority taking the exceptional measure of using its voting power to tie it up in a never-ending demand for more reports. LNot a single one of the 9,000 mandates has been reviewed. The G-77 has mired the issue in a process debate, claiming that only 7 percent of the mandates can be discussed at all. Terrorism has yet to be defined. The working group meeting to draft a comprehensive convention against terrorism cannot agree on their next meeting date. The U.N. lead agent, the counter-terrorism committee, has not named a single terrorist, terrorist organization, or State sponsor of terrorism. And the Secretary-General's plan for a counter- terrorism strategy is now subject to a debate about the legitimacy of armed struggle or killing selected men, women, and children. LMembership on the so-called reformed human rights council does not contain a single criterion other than geography. LThe price tag for the capital master plan continues to go up. Now on the table is a new idea, or an idea for a new building on the North Lawn, with the astronomical cost of over $1,000 dollars per square foot. From an American perspective, the price of U.N.-led multilateralism appears to be an affinity for self- flagellation. But rather than some kind of harmless predilection, the hatred the U.N. fuels for America does real harm. The membership of the United Nations, where democracies are outnumbered and often work against each other, dooms its capacity to undertake a number of the major challenges of the 21st Century. Until such time as we redefine multilateralism to serve the interests of democracies, we can expect to be undermined and demonized on the world stage. I hope the prospect of another blank check to those who resist reform will serve as a wake-up call, because the truth is, the crisis of confidence is as real today as it ever was. Thank you. Senator Coburn. Ms. Rosett, I have introduced you and I want to recognize you, but I want to say something publicly. Our founders were visionary in recognizing the power of free and open press. And all you have to do is look at the work of this witness to know what we know now what we would not know if we did not have an aggressive, free, and independent press. And she is a model for those who should be snooping around Washington, as well as New York, to expose to the American people a level of accountability that is not here. We are talking about the United Nations today, and she has done miraculous work in exposing the deficits there. But it is a challenge to everybody in your profession that they do the same type of level of investigative report, and their persistence and hard work and effort that you have demonstrated on your work in the United Nations Thank you, and you are recognized. TESTIMONY OF CLAUDIA ROSETT,\1\ JOURNALIST-IN-RESIDENCE, THE FOUNDATION FOR THE DEFENSE OF DEMOCRACIES Ms. Rosett. Thank you very much for that extremely gracious introduction. And let me tell you a little bit today about what the United Nations still will not tell us. What I want to talk to you about, mainly, is the transparency and try and make it a little more concrete, starting with the fact that promises that Chairman Coburn, and Senators, that I hope will come to care about this issue, because it matters greatly. The promises that are already being made at the United Nations once again about transparency are, unfortunately, entirely disingenuous. And let me give you an idea of why. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Ms. Rosett appears in the Appendix on page 65. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The thing that just jumps out over and over in many years covering many places, including corruption scandals in the former Soviet Union, which is where I came to recognize easily some of the patterns that are to this day, manifest at the United Nations. The United Nations bears a much closer resemblance to some of the despotisms I have covered than to any open and democratic system. And with Oil-for-Food, it is entirely correct that it was, in many ways, a fractal of the U.N. system. One of the many things that was a hallmark from the beginning was the refusal of the United Nations to answer even basic questions. Who were these contractors who were selling detergent to Saddam from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen, and Sudan? What was going on with the amounts, and so on? And the other part of it was the refusal of the United Nations to tell us anything about problems which we now know, due to Chairman Volcker's investigation, and to other materials that have surfaced, they did know about at the time. Recall, although this is down the U.N. memory hole, in their own version of affairs, that at the end of the program, Secretary-General Kofi Annan praised it and its handpicked director. It was only later--in fact, he delegated it to his own interior audit service, the Office of Internal Oversight Services, first to investigate, before Congressional pressure and pressed revelations finally forced it out into the open. And to this day, the thing coupled with this lack of transparency, which I want to get to, is this lack of accountability. The two together are a poisonous, really poisonous brew. What you have is after all the investigations into Oil-for-Food, and the allegations by the U.N.'s own probe, that Bennan Sevan, the head of Oil-for-Food, took bribes. He is now living in Cyprus on full U.N. pension and when I queried the U.N. Secretary-General's office, did they pay for his moving expenses back to Cyprus, the answer was that is personal and confidential information and we will not tell you. Jump now to the U.N. procurement department, the site of many scandals already, if you go today to try and find out information about contracts the United Nations is currently involved with, you will find a list of registered vendors that gives nothing more than the date and country of origin-- actually, not even the date in all cases. There are no addresses, no contact names, no further details as to who these vendors really are, why they have been chosen and so on. On the contracts themselves, the United Nations will give you no more than a line item with the total price, the department, and so on. Basically, at your local grocery store, you would be offered beef with no idea how much, what cut, anything like that. This leaves you sort of looking through these contracts, asking yourself, and what is this arrangement with a Washington firm for consulting services for ``barrier removal for the widespread commercialization of energy efficient, CFC-free refrigerators in China, or stationary from Milan.'' There is no way to tell. These may be legitimate arrangements. There is no way to judge. When you come to things as important as peacekeeping, these major contracts, which are part of the area now deeply embroiled, we know, in U.N. corruption, have simply vanished from the website altogether. You cannot get information on who is doing what. We know that one of the few, the only U.N. employee who has actually been arrested and convicted who has been subject to the Federal process all the way through to completion, Alexander Yakolvlev, in the U.N. procurement department, who appears to be the official mentioned in a U.N. internal audit who was involved in something like $2 billion worth of contracts. The United Nations has never released the full roster of contractors he was involved in dealing with. We know that he was involved in the selection of the Milan architectural firm that did the initial design study for the United Nations because that leaked to the press. The United Nations has never said this. The archives for the procurement department themselves have simply vanished from the website prior to 2005. These used to be there some years back. For some reason the United Nations has not explained, it uncoupled those within the past year. You cannot look back and even see the line item entries. May I skip through, in my written testimony, I have gone through some of the problems with the Oil-for-Food. One thing I would like to stress there, though, Mr. Volcker's Committee, for all of its contributions, has become part of the problem, for the reason that it is involved in the same secrecy that characterizes the rest. This is not an academic concern. His reports mention that U.N. agencies, some of the U.N. agencies in Iraq, were rife with corruption, but he says he did not have time and resources to follow the leads. He has not provided us with the underlying documentation for anyone else to follow them. That leaves large open questions. The other thing is, while Mr. Volcker's Committee put out documentation alleging that more than 2,000 companies had paid kickbacks to Saddam Hussein, he did not provide, again, the underlying documents and what this means is while countries that wish to pursue investigations may request them from the Volcker Committee, the rest of us have no access. What that means, precisely, is that countries such as China, Nigeria, Syria, Libya, Russia, and Sudan, which are not seriously investigating, get a free pass. In other words, the worst of Saddam's global market of money laundering is concealed. It is vital that these archives be brought out. The United Nations and Paul Volcker together have deep-sixed this. And, just a word on the ways in which this now works. The typical regimen at the United Nations is that they will say, yes, we have done something wrong and is that not terrible, but now we have fixed it. And it is not fixed. One of the things that they have done in the name of reform is set up a new Ethics Office. Three weeks after this was set up, the Secretary-General accepted a $500,000 cash prize from the Administer of the United Arab Emirates. This is a flagrant conflict of interest. You could not do that, say, in U.S. politics, and it was in public view, in some sense, the U.N. Secretary-General's Office announced the honor but not the cash prize. As the press began to dig into details and disclose that two people appointed by Secretary-General Kofi Annan had been on the jury, and one of the other jury members he subsequently appointed to head the U.N. environment program in Nairobi, Achim Steiner, Mr. Annan finally gave up the money to turn it over to relief efforts. He never acknowledged the conflict of interest involved. And here is the problem that leads us on. We, to this day, have no documentation of what actually happened with the money. We have to take his word for it. We are facing a further problem. The Ethics Office, when I queried them at the time, refused to comment and kicked it right back over to the Secretary-General's Office. It is a loop where there is no final accountability. And the Ethics Office has announced that there will now be, in the wake of all of these scandals, in which you had the head of the Oil-for-Food program depositing money into the bank account of his U.N.-employed wife, that there would now be financial disclosure by top U.N. officials, that they would be filling out financial disclosure forms. This is an Orwellian use of the term. These will not be disclosed to the public. They will be disclosed with the U.N. bureaucracy, vetted by the U.N. bureaucracy, and then dealt with in whatever way by the same bureaucracy that does not let us see in, does not bring into account people who do wrong. I have heard that the Secretary-General himself has not filed a financial disclosure form, although he has been making much of the new Ethics Office. I have queried his office about this, and they have not provided me with a simple yes or no. They will get back to me. I have come back to them again. It seems there is no way to get them to even disclose whether the Secretary-General has disclosed his financial interests. Furthermore, if you then ask, and who, then, vets this, and to whom are any irregularities then reported, it is all extremely unclear. There is no answer so far. This is just a system with no accountability and that leads us to the United Nations dodges and manipulations of the truth. May I just very quickly read you an exchange? Senator Coburn. OK. Ms. Rosett. It is typical of what happens to those who actually pursue legitimate questions about conflicts of interest, financial problems at the United Nations. This one concerns the rental arrangements from Mark Malloch Brown, the Deputy Secretary-General, who rents, we are told, a house on the estate of George Soros, outside of New York City. George Soros, according to Mark Malloch Brown himself, has collaborated extensively with the United Nations, including with the United Nations Development Program, while Mark Malloch Brown was running it, about 1\1/2\ or 2 years ago. And we are told that Mark Malloch Brown pays $10,000 a month rent, that this according to Mr. Brown, an arms' length transaction. There are many potential conflicts of interest here. This is somebody who has done business with the United Nations--I believe currently does business with the United Nations. And yet, here is the reply to the Times of London correspondent, James Bone, a highly competent, well informed journalist, who has been covering the United Nations very ably for years, who asked about this, was it not a conflict of interest. And Mr. Brown replied, ``it is of particular genius for you and your friends to take something which is of open knowledge to everybody is suddenly produced as some great guilty secret. Get back to the plenty of real stories that are around here. I see enough nodding heads in this room to know that there are enough real stories for you to pursue that you can stop dragging down everyone you touch, particularly yourself, by the way that you are behaving.'' Mr. Bone had inquired about a potential conflict of interest, actually I think an obvious one, involving a very high ranking U.N. official who has since been promoted, and I will note that while Mr. Brown is talking about the Freedom of Information Act, he himself has never disclosed the forms that would give us any documentation of any of this. Senator Coburn. Mr. Melito, I am going to get you to close now, and then we can go to questions. TESTIMONY OF THOMAS MELITO,\1\ DIRECTOR, INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS AND TRADE, U.S. GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE Mr. Melito. Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to be here today to discuss the United Nations oversight and procurement process in the context of the U.N. capital master plan (CMP). The U.N. Headquarters buildings are in need of renovation. Since they no longer conform to current safety, fire, and building codes, and do not meet U.N. technology or security requirements. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Melito appears in the Appendix on page 74. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- However, effective implementation of the CMP is vulnerable to the range of weaknesses existing in internal oversight and procurement practices. Today, I will share with you the findings of two reports that were released on these topics in April 2006. First, I will focus on the need to focus on the budgetary independence of the U.N. internal oversight unit, OIOS. We found that current funding arrangements adversely affect OIOS budgetary independence and compromise its ability to affect high-risk areas. Second, I will also focus on the assessment of the U.N. procurement processes according to key standards for internal controls. We found that to the extent that the CMP relies on current U.N. processes, implementation of the planned renovation is vulnerable to procurement weaknesses that we have identified. I will now highlight our main findings. First, U.N. funding arrangements constrain OIOS ability to operate independently as mandated by the General Assembly and required by international auditing standards. OIOS is funded by the U.N. regular budget, and 12 extra budgetary revenue streams. U.N. financial regulations severely limit OIOS ability to respond to changing circumstances by reallocating resources among these various revenue streams. As a result, OIOS cannot always deploy the resources necessary to address high-risk areas that emerge after its budget is approved. In addition, OIOS is dependent on U.N. funds and programs for resources as compensation for the services that it provides. This is a conflict of interest, because while OIOS has oversight authority over these entities, it must obtain their permission to examine their operations and receive payment for its services. Moreover, the heads of these entities have the right to deny funding for the oversight work OIOS proposes. By denying OIOS funding, U.N. entities have avoided OIOS audits, including high-risk areas. For, example, OIOS was prevented from examining high-risk areas in the U.N. Oil-for-Food program, where billions of dollars were subsequently found to have been misused. OIOS funding concerns are potentially relevant to the CMP, since the ultimate number of auditors who will work on the CMP and their funding sources have yet to be determined. OIOS reported that it had extra budgetary funds from the CMP for one auditor on a short-term basis, but that level of funding is not sufficient to provide the oversight coverage intended by the General Assembly. To increase oversight coverage, OIOS assigned an additional auditor exclusively to the CMP using funds from its regular budget. Let me now turn to our second finding addressing weaknesses in the U.N. procurement system. To the extent that the CMP will rely on the current U.N. procurement process, it is vulnerable to weaknesses that we identified in our April report. For example, the United Nations has not established an independent process to consider vendor protests. The lack of an independent bid protest process limits the transparency of procurement by not providing the means for a vendor to protest the outcome of a contract decision. Such a process could alert senior officials of failures by procurement staff to comply with policies and procedures. In addition, the United Nations has not demonstrated a commitment to improving the capabilities of its professional procurement staff, despite longstanding shortcomings. Furthermore, it has yet to complete action on specific ethics guidance for procurement officers. Due to significant control weaknesses in the U.N. procurement process, the United Nations has relied disproportionately on the actions of its staff to safeguard its resources. However, recent studies indicate that the procurement staff lacks sufficient knowledge of procurement policies, and the United Nations has made only limited progress towards adopting ethics guidance for its procurement staff. We also found that the United Nations has yet to incorporate guidance for construction in its procurement manual. In June 2005, a U.N. consultant recommended that the United Nations develop separate guidelines in the manual for the planning and execution for construction projects. These guidelines could be useful in planning and executing CMP procurements. In conclusion, the weaknesses in internal oversight and procurement we identified could adversely impact implementation of the CMP. However, these concerns should be considered within the context of the pressing need for renovation of the U.N. Headquarters complex. Mr. Chairman, this completes my prepared statement. I would be happy to answer any questions. Senator Coburn. Thank you. I am somewhat taken aback by your last statement. So, regardless of how sloppy it is, you want to do it? Mr. Melito. The issue is because of the age of the building and the state of some of the systems in the building, there is threat of catastrophic failures. Last fall they had a failure in the electrical system which caused the system to have part of it fuse, and they had a great threat of a fire, and they had to evacuate the building. If the electrical system was to fail catastrophically, if the heating and air conditioning system was to fail catastrophically, we would be faced with a situation where we would have to do very rapid renovation, very rapid procurement on the fly. So that just needs to be weighed against the issues of the system. Senator Coburn. I understand, but that is answering the wrong question. You can do both. Mr. Melito. Yes. Senator Coburn. If construction was started today, it would still take 5 years to finish it. Mr. Melito. Yes. Senator Coburn. Dr. Bayefsky, you painted a pretty dark picture of the United Nations. If you were queen for a day, what would you have us do to try to change, reorganize, improve, and place sunshine on the United Nations? Ms. Bayefsky. I think it is imperative that the United Nations have some competition, that there be an alternative for democracies to move together and work together---- Senator Coburn. Another multilateral body? Ms. Bayefsky. Another multilateral front. It does not mean destroying the United Nations. It means defining what the United Nations can do, and what it cannot do, inherently, because of its membership, which is largely undemocratic. So, with that demarcation of what the United Nations is capable of doing, we should develop a multilateral alternative, much as Senator Frist has suggested, in fact, with respect to human rights protection, peace and security issues, the War on Terror, some of the major issues of the 21st Century. We come together as democracies and insure that membership is kept to democracies, much like the Council of Europe, a situation where one has to be a democracy in order to enter, but if countries improve their human rights and records of transparency and accountability and so on, can be admitted into the group. So, we provide an incentive for others to reform themselves in order to join. That is the kind of incentive program that we need to generate. Senator Coburn. I am going to ask all of you to respond to this. Given what each of you know about the weaknesses of the United Nations, the past history of waste, and what is demonstrated as corruption, that is the word that we should use. We should not call it something other than that. And mismanagement--what effect do you think total and complete financial transparency would have on that institution. Ms. Bayefsky. Well, if I may. Senator Coburn. Sure. Ms. Bayefsky. I am afraid I am one of those people who thinks that transparency is not the only answer. Yes, it is part of the answer, but the reality is that the composition of the United Nations means what we would see we would not like very much, anyway. There are 191 countries, 132 of them are members of the Group of 77. They hold the majority of power. The single largest voting block in the Group of 77 is the Organization of the Islamic Conference, that is 56 States. And the balance of power is therefore held by developing countries, with a very strong influence from the OIC. We saw how that played out at the Human Rights Council. Everybody says that the Human Rights Council is reformed. Nothing could be further from the truth. Senator Coburn. I agree. Ms. Bayefsky. And the consequence, therefore, is that they hold the cards. And so, we have to do more than shine the light of day on the organization. We have to make it clear that it is not good enough to have a body which thinks that the enemy is the United States. And unless we rethink multilateralism to suggest that the United States is at the forefront of democratization and everything that entails or the benefits that can bring, we will not have multilateralism which we can trust to tackle the major issues of our time. Senator Coburn. Ms. Rosett. Ms. Rosett. Well, first of all, if you could actually look into the details of the contract, you might learn more about the electrical failure than that it was some sort of catastrophic event. It is very difficult to prove with that information that is not the only version circulating in the building. The basic problem you have here is that there is no internal justice system at the United Nations. Top management can do whatever they want and they are not accountable to anybody. They operate under diplomatic immunity, and they are not accountable within their own system. They are completely outside the law. And basically, the problem this raises and says even when you do see something, even when you get transparency, nothing happens. In all of Oil-for-Food, nobody has been punished. And this has become an occasion for the Secretary-General to roam the globe at the moment saying, ``if there was a scandal, it involved maybe one staffer.'' That is just an absurd interpretation of what happened. But what you would see if you were actually flip on the light is, when you look in--I will guarantee you this, and that is simply what I have been able to discern looking through what they put out and what you are able to get through leaks and miserable employees lower down the pecking order and things of that kind is that within the U.N. system, you could almost certainly save enough in waste, fraud, abuse, excess, and so on, and then more than pay even for an overpriced renovation plan. In other words, if they actually stopped looking--the chronic pattern at the United Nations is looking for more money. They had a security council meeting or a General Assembly--they had a big cofab back in 1975 talking about the financial crisis at the United Nations. I do not have right in front of me the names, the mutations of the terminology over the last 30-some years, but basically, every year since then they have discussed--the names change occasionally, it is the urgent crisis, or the financial, or the current crisis. There is always a crisis. There is no accountability on the spending side. In fact, the U.N. sums for spending are given to us, for the most part, in big round figures for departments and areas-- $85 million for the Department of Public Information. People do not spend in big round figures. There is change. Could somebody please just account for that? For the things that would make it real. Senator Coburn. Is it true that if you really had sunshine. Ms. Rosett. Yes. Senator Coburn. On what was going on in the United Nations, that reform could come from that? Is there no shame associated with this situation and this organization? You could not shame people into behavior, at least on transparency and reform? Ms. Rosett. Well, shame and money seem to be the two lovers, and neither one of them has seemed to really have gotten much---- Senator Coburn. But there is no transparency. Ms. Rosett. There is no transparency. Well, you can see some things. Again, a point that I tried to make in my written testimony, you can see in U.N. operations the general shape of scams. It is not hard to see how the frauds are probably taking place. They are elementary. They are standard. The difficulty is getting the details that actually tells you who is doing what. Senator Coburn. That is the transparency. Ms. Rosett. Exactly. Yes. Probably it would make some difference, and the difficulty is this. The United Nations will promise you transparency. In fact, they described Oil-for-Food as transparent. They described the procurement department to myself and a colleague in the media, George Russell of Fox News--it was our story that brought the name of Alexander Yakovlev into the press as somebody who was clearly engaged in something funny business in the procurement department. When we first went to see the procurement department, as we began reporting that story, they assured us that the procurement department had been through a reform and that they were transparent. Their website was transparent. They had no major concerns about corruption at all. Senator Coburn. Which is totally opposite of the testimony of Dr. Melito. Ms. Rosett. Yes. That is correct. In fact, they sent us off by saying that we did not ask about Alexander Yakovlev, per se, we went to ask are there any concerns about corruptions, scams--we were told it is all airtight. It has all been cleaned up. It is all fine. This is the pattern over and over. So, the test is real transparency, and I would suggest that does not consist of promises. We have had promises for years. It consists of the actual documents. Senator Coburn. Dr. Melito, your comments on that. Mr. Melito. Increased transparency is definitely a worthy goal. In the context of the CMP, it would definitely benefit CMP to be more transparent. I do want to give just two caveats to that. Certain security arrangements of the CMP would have to remain non- public. Senator Coburn. That is understood. Mr. Melito. And also, certain business proprietary information would probably have to be assured---- Senator Coburn. Give me a good example, because when I was in New York--the idea of proprietary information. Give me a good example of proprietary information that somebody would have who is going to do asbestos removal in the United Nations, or somebody that is going to do the new plumbing, or the new air conditioning units. What is the proprietary information that would allow them to black out the whole contract so that people could not see what we are spending and what we are getting for what we are spending? Mr. Melito. It usually comes down to issues of the individual firm's pricing structure in keeping that hidden from its own competitors. It does not necessarily get into their techniques, although it could, but it is usually about how much they are charging for that individual micro-things. But you could definitely release to the public the total cost. Total costs should be brought out. Senator Coburn. And the costs of their subcontracts. Mr. Melito. Again, with some caveats. Senator Coburn. Well, yes. So, what I hear is proprietary. That is the excuse to not tell you anything, because we have something proprietary. There is no rule within the United Nations today, other than their own rule that says that they have to have that. There is no bylaw in the United Nations that says that---- Mr. Melito. The risk, though, is that if you are actually telling bidders in advance that their information would be public, they would not bid, which would then greatly inflate the price of the contract, because you would have a very narrow set of bidders, potentially. Senator Coburn. And by saying that, you are assuming that the price of the contract is not inflated today? Mr. Melito. I am saying that we have not made any analysis of that, but if it is a competitive system, you want more bidders. Ms. Rosett. If I might add, what we do know is that the G- 77, for example, thinks that they are entitled to some of these contracts by the fact of their geography, so that entitlements here are, according to the majority of the U.N. members, is not on the basis of anything remotely resembling the ability to do the job, but, in fact---- Senator Coburn. Who you are friends with. Ms. Rosett. Correct. Senator Coburn. And that is why subcontracts and that is why transparency on contracting, and that is why an ability to challenge a contract, as you mentioned, in terms of, I think you call it a vendor protest, is so critical in the contracting. Ms. Rosett. May I just add to that, that there is a tradeoff here. It is not necessary for the United Nations, the State Department, the GAO, or anybody else to be quite so solicitous of U.N. suppliers. If you had a rule across the board that the bids, apart from, yes, something that would reasonably--something that would involve life or death matters immediately and could be--but the bids for things like stationary from Milan should be, simply, openly conducted, completely transparent. Yes, you might get a somewhat narrower set, but you would probably be eliminating the worst of the lot. And there is a whole element to this that is not being addressed at all, which is that United Nations, in its reach across borders, operates system-wide, beyond the reach of any one press corps, beyond the reach of any legal authority. You can leave for Cyprus, and nobody can bring you back. And one of the things that we have glimpsed, and in this case---- Senator Coburn. And have your retirement, Ms. Rosett. Yes. Precisely. And pay you full pension and refuse to answer any questions about whether or not your moving expenses were paid back to your hometown. But one of the other things that George Russell and I have come across in reporting on the procurement department is that, in looking at a company that was involved with, we know, the guilty, convicted, Alexander Yakovlev, a company he had many connections with, I see services which went through many strange evolutions in its life and involved a number of contractors who still, I believe, were doing business with the United Nations. That was a company which had, as it turned out, and this took quite a deal of digging to find, connections that went back to the Muslim Brotherhood in Western Europe to contractors all over the place where you had no idea who was actually involved. When you are subcontracting, it may be all very nice, upfront, healthy, good work, but as soon as it becomes extremely opaque, which it is, you also have what Oil-for-Food became, basically, which is an enormous network that can be perverted into a global money laundering network. And you have the United Nations operating in the world's worst trouble spots. When you have corridors of diplomatically immune, opaque money all flowing in good works, this was what Oil-for-Food was. Under the blue U.N. label, you have enormous risks that start to come in about what else is going on under the U.N. label. And all of this, it would seem to me, argue for transparent bidding, even if it does raise the cost, you are making tradeoffs. Thank you. Mr. Melito. It is clear that GAO's position that U.N. procurement system, in general, has serious problems. And it is a systemic problem in terms of lack of investment and training. There is a real breakdown in terms of management's responsibility, who has to do what. When we reported on these deficiencies in April--I do want to say, though, that it is possible for the CMP to be sort of fire walled from these problems since it is a relatively focused and unique procurement. I do think the United Nations should isolate itself from these larger procurement problems, which would probably take several years, at least, to fix. Senator Coburn. Well, I want to assure you that the money that this country is going to spend is going to request that type of isolation, that type of control, or each year we will be fighting it on the floor and we just probably will not appropriate it unless we get that kind of assurance. Dr. Bayefsky. Ms. Bayefsky. I was going to add that there is another part of the puzzle--we have to ask what it is the United Nations has engaged in, the whole issue of so-called mandate review, the duplication issue. In other words, not only is money being spent in ways in which we cannot figure out its destination, but we are unable to determine what it is doing that is duplicative across the board. The mandate review process is very enlightening. The Secretary-General was asked to begin the process of mandate review by the September summit. Instead what he did was dump a list, literally, just a list, of 9,000 mandates that the United Nations does, its program of work. And to date, when the budget cap is before us and expected to be lifted, not a single, solitary mandate has been reviewed. What does that mean in terms of where the money is actually going? One of the most obvious examples of duplication, which is driven by the interests of a certain number of U.N. countries, is the issue of the Palestinian agenda. There is one refugee agency for Palestinians, and one refugee agency for everybody else. There is one Department of Public Information for the Palestinians, (information on the question of Palestine,) and one Department of Public Information for everybody else. There is one Human Rights database for Palestinians and so the list goes. There is one U.N. division solely for Palestinians and nobody else has a single solitary division devoted to their work. The number of posts of U.N. Staff for the division of Palestinian rights has 16 people. And the number of posts for the entire Asia Pacific Division is 21. So, until we do mandate review, we do not know, clearly, what the United Nations is spending its money on, and what it could do to consolidate, rationalize, to save us an enormous amount of money. Senator Coburn. I do not know if you heard my opening statement. In visiting with key members of G-77, the Group of 77, Secretary Mark Malloch Brown, as well as our Ambassadors, I got unanimity agreement for transparency. And I did not just say transparency. I defined transparency, open and honest evaluation availability online of everything that you are doing, all the way down through all the subcontractors. I have to agreement to that. Am I just ignorant or naive in thinking that they would agree to that, and then if we were to make that a condition to our contribution to the United Nations, we would not see some action? Ms. Bayefsky. Well, you raise the whole issue of conditions to our contribution, as such. I mean, the spending cap was the one way to force the issue of this reluctance to reform on multiple levels and everything that has been talked about today---- Senator Coburn. That is the Administration's one way. That is not Congress' one way. Ms. Bayefsky. I hear you and I hope, indeed, that if and when the spending cap is indeed lifted, that there are alternatives. There are, of course, alternatives. Congress has already identified a number of ways in which they can review the budget and insist that it can be changed. One of the examples that I think bears some time considering is the issue of pedophilia. For example, the Congress put a very major condition on U.S.-U.N. funding and said that contributions for international organizations as a whole, not just the United Nations, are reduced by a $118 million for every fiscal year, unless it can be certified that no U.N.-affiliated agency promotes pedophilia in one way or another. So that certification is required from the Administration. Other such requirements could be put in place which required a certification that no U.N. NGO, for example, is engaged in the encouragement of terrorism, racism or anti- Semitism. And I think it behooves us indeed, to think creatively about potential ways of accomplishing the kinds of transparency and accountability that you are thinking of, should the spending cap be lifted. Senator Coburn. Just a thought. We are somewhat schizophrenic. If we were to have such limitations, sometimes our own State Department will fight us on some of those issues. Do you perceive that as a real issue, a real possibility? Ms. Bayefsky. Unfortunately, I do, yes. Senator Coburn. OK. Ms. Bayefsky. I see it very directly, day to day. We voted against the Human Rights Council, and the very same day the State Department said we are going to pay for it. The members had not even been elected yet and we are going to pay for it. Senator Coburn. Yes. Ms. Bayefsky. And now that it is elected, we are going to pay for it even more. Now, Cuba is going to lecture us on human rights. In fact, it did so in Geneva, today. Senator Coburn. All right. Any other comments. Ms. Rosett. Ms. Rosett. Yes. Just in brief. I often get the feeling in this kind of discussion that the fix is in. And it seems worth talking about because an old editor of mine, Bob Bartley, once said that sometimes, even when you see a bus going over a cliff, you cannot stop it but you can at least say, look, a bus is going over a cliff. And on this, there really are things that matter a great deal, here, as far as what we should be able to see. I have made up just a quick list for you. Here is what we need to see, and we need to see it in the interest, simply, as an institution with any integrity at all. The United Nations needs to be even more transparent then the best of its Member States, for the reasons that I just mentioned. It operates with nobody's real jurisdiction. It does not have to account to a free electorate. It does not have to account to itself. We should be able to see in full the procurement archives. I believe that they forfeited any rights to agreements of confidentiality with the degree of corruption we do know exists in there. This should go back until the mid 1990's. That is when some of the current scams originated. They are huge. They probably involve companies still doing business with the United Nations, which would love to bid in the shadow of the current secrecy arrangements on new contracts. Second, the archives of the Oil-for-Food investigation. I mean, if they want to winnow out the things where they truly believe that a witness' life is at risk, fine. But at the moment, the investigator who defected criticizing the investigation for going soft on the Secretary-General who has been promising you all of these things is under a 7-year court order, a gag injunction, where he cannot even talk about it. And we have never seen most of the underlying documents. We have been given a very precise set of conclusions that gives us a very fuzzy view of some of the U.N.'s activities. These archives are huge. They involve established patterns of how the U.N. operates. People who will be carrying forward into the next regime and who you will be depending upon. If they are still there, they occupy crucial roles, or will, where they will have to decide what happens. You need to see the archives of the Volcker investigation. We all do. Not just you, the Senate, we the public need to see this. Finally, I think that the least that could be done, in a measure of good faith, would be that these financial disclosure forms, which are supposed to be part of the U.N. compliance with ethics, the public should have full access to the Secretary-General's, the Deputy Secretary-General's, to the Under Secretary-General's--there is a huge roster at this point of people occupying those top three ranks--many Under Secretary-Generals, one of whom turned out to be taking, by his own admission, finally, payoffs from Saddam Hussein while working as Kofi Annan's envoy to Europe. And they roamed many parts of the globe doing many things. There are conflicts of interest already established, too much to go into now. But these should all be fully disclosed to the public. And the standard there should be that if we are going to have an institution like this, you have got to have that be the standard of transparency. Probably the only way to get that is the kind of competition you described. But that list, I think, is the minimum of what you should be looking for to have any faith in their promises at all. Senator Coburn. Put some teeth in the ethics process, because there are no teeth in the ethics process that they put in. Ms. Rosett. I think that is the difficult job that you face because there are no teeth in the ethics process right now. The moment in which I sent a note to them asking about the ethics of Secretary-General Annan taking a half a million dollars from the ruler of Dubai via a prize jury packed with his appointees, and they referred me back to the Secretary-General's office, after several rounds of ping pong, it was clear. This was going nowhere. They have no power to investigate. They have no power to enforce. Once again, this is an Orwellian world. This is a world where the labels do not mean what they say. Senator Coburn. A mirage. Ms. Rosett. It is called an ethics office. It is a cover up for not having an ethics office. Senator Coburn. Any final comments? Mr. Melito. I would just like to reiterate that the issues with OIOS really do make the CMP vulnerable. The United Nations needs to make sure that OIOS has the independence to at least oversee that project. And that can be done, because in case of peacekeeping, there is not a short source for oversight for peacekeeping. They can create something for CMP. And similarly, they should create some sort of firewall strategy which eliminates any risk that CMP procurement will have. Senator Coburn. Thank you. You each will receive some questions from the Subcommittee, if you would not mind answering some of those, within 2 weeks of receiving them, we would very much appreciate it. I do appreciate you preparing testimony and the work that you have done. The hearing is adjourned. [Whereupon, at 4:26 p.m. the hearing was concluded.] A P P E N D I X ---------- PREPARED STATEMENT OF SENATOR CARPER Since its establishment on June 26, 1945, the United Nations and its agencies have played integral roles in addressing global issues ranging from electoral assistance in Iraq and Afghanistan to 18 peacekeeping missions around the world and hopefully, in the near future, Darfur. The United Nations is important not only to the international community, but also right here at home in the U.S. The United Nations employs over 40,000 people, including 1,400 Americans. As a major New York attractions, 40 million visitors having toured the buildings, contributing an estimated $800 million annually to our economy. The U.N. buildings have not been renovated since they were built in the early 1950s, with current problems including asbestos; lead paint; no sprinkler systems; and spaces that would be inaccessible to firefighters. And now, when a credible renovation plan is on the table, there are those who would use it as a political tool to force needed management reforms. In a post 9/11 world--I find it totally unacceptable that there are those who would play politics with people's lives. I understand that the United Nations requires reform and support these efforts, but not at the possible expense of the 40,000 lives of the Americans and others who work at the United Nations. What would happen if a fire were to break out or if there were a terrorist attack? The U.N.'s renovation plan has been reviewed by GAO twice, and is in the process of a third review. State Department and OMB have also taken part in the review process and all give the plan a clean bill of health. To my understanding the Administration supports the plan, and I look forward to hearing the Administration's position from Ambassador Bolton today. I, therefore fail to understand why the plan has yet to be implemented . . . and given that renovations will take years, why renovations and reforms simply cannot take place at the same time. I am also not the first to pose the question of embroiling the renovation's plan in politics. Fritz Reuter, the Executive Director of the U.N.'s renovation plan voiced similar concerns, and ultimately stepped down from his position from all accounts for similar reasons. It baffles me, Mr. Chairman why in your meeting with Mr. Reuter last week, that you did not insist that he be here today. He has the most knowledge of anyone on this topic and on best ways to move forward. That being said, I look forward to hearing testimonies from our witnesses today that really address the nuts and bolts of the renovation and any related issues of concern. 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