[Senate Hearing 110-454] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] S. Hrg. 110-454 THE NEW MADRID SEISMIC ZONE: WHOSE FAULT IS IT ANYWAY? ======================================================================= HEARING before the AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE ON STATE, LOCAL AND PRIVATE SECTOR PREPAREDNESS AND INTEGRATION of the COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED TENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION __________ DECEMBER 4, 2007 __________ Available via http://www.gpoaccess.gov/congress/index.html Printed for the use of the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs ---------- U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 40-505 PDF WASHINGTON : 2008 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; DC area (202) 512-1800 Fax: (202) 512-2104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402-0001 COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS JOSEPH I. LIEBERMAN, Connecticut, Chairman CARL LEVIN, Michigan SUSAN M. COLLINS, Maine DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii TED STEVENS, Alaska THOMAS R. CARPER, Delaware GEORGE V. VOINOVICH, Ohio MARK L. PRYOR, Arkansas NORM COLEMAN, Minnesota MARY L. LANDRIEU, Louisiana TOM COBURN, Oklahoma BARACK OBAMA, Illinois PETE V. DOMENICI, New Mexico CLAIRE McCASKILL, Missouri JOHN WARNER, Virginia JON TESTER, Montana JOHN E. SUNUNU, New Hampshire Michael L. Alexander, Staff Director Brandon L. Milhorn, Minority Staff Director and Chief Counsel Trina Driessnack Tyrer, Chief Clerk AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE ON STATE, LOCAL, AND PRIVATE SECTOR PREPAREDNESS AND INTEGRATION MARK L. PRYOR, Arkansas, Chairman DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii JOHN E. SUNUNU, New Hampshire MARY L. LANDRIEU, Louisiana GEORGE V. VOINOVICH, Ohio BARACK OBAMA, Illinois NORM COLEMAN, Minnesota CLAIRE McCASKILL, Missouri PETE V. DOMENICI, New Mexico JON TESTER, Montana JOHN WARNER, Virginia Kristin Sharp, Staff Director Michael McBride, Minority Staff Director Amanda Fox, Chief Clerk C O N T E N T S ------ Opening statements: Page Senator Pryor................................................ 1 WITNESSES Tuesday, December 4, 2007 Glenn M. Cannon, Assistant Administrator for Disaster Operations Directorate, Federal Emergency Management Agency, U.S. Department of Homeland Security................................ 3 John R. Hayes, Jr., Director, National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program, National Institute of Standards and Technology, U.S. Department of Commerce........................ 5 David Applegate, Senior Science Advisor for Earthquakes and Geological Hazards, U.S. Geological Survey..................... 7 David Maxwell, Director, Arkansas Department of Emergency Management and Vice Chair, Central United States Earthquake Consortium..................................................... 15 Callen Hays, Crisis Management Coordinator, Memphis Light, Gas, and Water...................................................... 17 Alphabetical List of Witnesses Applegate, David: Testimony.................................................... 7 Prepared statement........................................... 44 Cannon Glenn M.: Testimony.................................................... 3 Prepared statement........................................... 25 Hayes, John R., Jr.: Testimony.................................................... 5 Prepared statement with an attachment........................ 35 Hays, Callen: Testimony.................................................... 17 Prepared statement........................................... 59 Maxwell, David: Testimony.................................................... 15 Prepared statement........................................... 51 APPENDIX Background....................................................... 63 Charts submitted by Mr. Cannon................................... 65 ``Concepts of Planning and Response to a Missouri Catastrophic Event (Earthquake) (Missouri State Emergency Operations Plan Annex Y)'' submitted by Mr. Cannon............................. 67 ``Missouri Local Workshop Registration List'' submitted by John Campbell, Acting Operations Branch Chief of The Missouri Emergency Management Director's Advisory Committee............. 86 Questions and Responses submitted for the Record from: Mr. Cannon................................................... 94 Mr. Applegate................................................ 99 Mr. Hayes.................................................... 100 THE NEW MADRID SEISMIC ZONE: WHOSE FAULT IS IT ANYWAY? ---------- TUESDAY, DECEMBER 4, 2007 U.S. Senate, Ad Hoc Subcommittee on State, Local, and Private Sector Preparedness and Integration, of the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Washington, DC. The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:40 p.m., in Room SD-342, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. David Pryor, Chairman of the Subcommittee, presiding. Present: Senator Pryor. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR PRYOR Senator Pryor. We will get underway here. I think we are all set up here now with our visuals. I want to thank the panel for being here and I apologize for being 5 or 10 minutes late; they called a vote on us right at 2:30 and I had to get over to the Capitol to vote. Some of the Senators on the Subcommittee may be coming in later. We have a Commerce Committee markup and some action on the floor and some other things, so its a busy day. What I will do is I will leave the record open for a few weeks to allow Senators to ask questions. Panelists, if you could get us your responses back as quickly as possible, we would appreciate it. Let me go ahead and welcome everyone here. I want to thank all of you for being here today for this hearing before the Ad Hoc Committee on State, Local, and Private Sector Preparedness and Integration. We are calling this hearing ``The New Madrid Seismic Zone: Whose Fault is it Anyway?'' a little bit of a play on words. I know you earthquake researchers get tired of that play on words, but we couldn't resist. We are talking about a very serious subject today, one that touches my State very directly, as you can see from the map, and that is the New Madrid fault line. I want to welcome Dave Maxwell and thank him for being here. He is in the back of the room. He is on our next panel, but he is from my home State of Arkansas and we will give him the proper introduction in a few moments. As most people who follow earthquakes in this country and understand the history of earthquakes in this country, in 1811 and 1812, a series of three very large earthquakes struck the New Madrid region. The earthquakes measured between 7.0 and 8.0 on the Richter scale. The earthquakes were so powerful that they changed the course of the Mississippi River and the Mississippi River actually flowed backwards for some time. The tremors from the earthquakes could be felt as far away as 1,000 miles. In fact, there are recorded stories of church bells ringing in Boston because the ground was shaking in Boston, Massachusetts. Today, we know a lot more about earthquakes than we did back in 1811 and 1812 and we can see the New Madrid quake zone and the fault line; it affects seven States: Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Missouri, Kentucky, Illinois, and Indiana. Science tells us that if there is a major earthquake on that fault line, that it could be worse than the earthquake that we could see in Southern California at some point that gets a lot more publicity and has a lot more notoriety, by the way, but this earthquake here is a very serious threat to the United States. Imagine every bridge along the Mississippi River on those maps going away, or imagine the levees breaking along not just the Mississippi River, but all the river systems there that are impacted here, you can look at locks and dams breaking, you can look at levees, which almost surely some of them would surely disintegrate or at least be greatly damaged with a major earthquake, it doesn't take long to understand how serious this challenge and this threat is. Scientists estimate that, depending on how severe the earthquake might be, it may cost upwards of $500 billion to this country, and if you look at Hurricane Katrina, as terrible as it was, and we all know about the tragedy in Hurricane Katrina, that has cost the government $130 billion so far. So this one could far outscale the cost and the difficulty, the challenges that it would present this country. Since 1812, we have escaped a catastrophe in the region, but the threat is real and I think it is essential that we assess the hazard, develop accurate response plans, and educate the public about the safety precautions that we all can take. Today, we will hear from several Federal agencies about their role in preparing for and responding to an earthquake in the New Madrid Seismic Zone. All the agencies represented-- FEMA, NIST, USGS--play an important role in research, mitigation, and response. On the second panel, we will hear about the work being done at the regional and State level. Finally, we will discuss preparation efforts that critical infrastructure owners and operators in the region are taking. Because there is so much we don't know about the earthquake hazard in this region and because the area has not suffered a major earthquake for almost 200 years, it is critical to bring attention to this topic. I hope we can work together to develop and maintain open lines of communication between all levels of government and our critical infrastructure and private sector partners. And one more note before we go to our first panel. I know that a few years ago, FEMA did an analysis and looked at the biggest challenges that the country may face in natural disasters and they decided to do two major exercises in the middle part of the country. One was Hurricane Pam, which simulated a large hurricane. This was a couple of years before Hurricane Katrina. And the second one they never did, but they were supposed to. FEMA was supposed to do a major exercise on the New Madrid earthquake. So it is my hope that, at some point, we put that back on the calendar. I know there is discussion for putting a major planning exercise together for 2011, which I think would be the 200 anniversary of the last earthquake. But anyway, I hope that we will consider making that a major and very regional effort. So with that, what I want to do is introduce the panel. Our first witness will be Glenn Cannon, Assistant Administrator for the Disaster Operations Directorate at FEMA. Mr. Cannon is responsible for coordinating the development and execution of interagency plans for response operations in Presidential disaster and emergency declarations. He has an extensive background in public safety administration and has served in many leadership roles in the City of Pittsburgh. The second witness will be Jack Hayes, Director of the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program at the National Institute of Standards and Technology. Mr. Hayes is responsible for overall program management, coordination, and technical leadership and facilitation of implementation of earthquake risk mitigation measures. Prior to joining the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), Mr. Hayes was a leader of seismic and structural engineering research at the U.S. Army Research and Development Centers Construction Engineering Research Laboratory. And our third witness on this panel is Dr. David Applegate, Senior Science Advisor for Earthquakes and Geological Hazards at the U.S. Geological Survey. Dr. Applegate is responsible for coordination of geologic hazards activities across the U.S. Geological Survey. He also chairs the National Science and Technology Council's Interagency Subcommittee on Disaster Reduction and is an adjunct faculty member of the University of Utah's Department of Geology and Geophysics. So, Mr. Cannon, please proceed. TESTIMONY OF GLENN M. CANNON,\1\ ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR FOR DISASTER OPERATIONS DIRECTORATE, FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY Mr. Cannon. Thank you, Chairman Pryor, and thank you for the opportunity to discuss FEMA's Catastrophic Disaster Response Planning Initiative for a potential earthquake along the New Madrid Seismic Zone. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Cannon appears in the Appendix on page 25. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Successfully responding to the anticipated effects of a catastrophic disaster is one of the greatest challenges Federal, State, and local governments face. Recognizing this, FEMA has implemented a Catastrophic Disaster Response Planning Initiative designed to enhance disaster response planning activities by focusing attention on disasters that could immediately overwhelm existing local capabilities. Working with our partners at every level of government, we are identifying high-risk areas, developing loss estimates, assessing response capabilities and the accompanying shortfalls, and developing comprehensive planning strategies to address these shortfalls and enhance capabilities. This initiative also involves participation by the private sector, voluntary organizations, non-governmental organizations, academia, and members of the critical infrastructure sections. We are collaborating on a number of functional response topics with a focus on particularly high-risk regions, which are laid out in greater detail in my written testimony. But today's hearing is focused on our efforts to improve overall capabilities to respond to and recover from a catastrophic New Madrid Seismic Zone earthquake. Our activities include identifying issues that cannot be resolved based on current capabilities and proposing recommended courses of action for decisionmakers. Our New Madrid Planning Initiative focuses on a no-notice major earthquake in the central portion of the United States. Working with our partners, we have conducted risk assessments that show the wide-ranging impact an earthquake in this region would have. Estimates of total building loss alone exceeded $70 billion. Approximately 44 million people live in the New Madrid Seismic Zone area, with 12 million in the highest-risk areas. An earthquake would have a major impact on the economy, transportation, lifelines, and other factors of everyday life across this region and the entire country. Estimating losses is essential to decisionmaking at all levels of government. It provides a basis for developing mitigation, emergency preparedness, and response and recovery plans, policies, and capabilities. We are working from the grassroots level up to carry out all aspects of planning for a New Madrid event. This includes using a scenario-driven plan development process with area- specific workshops in both urban and rural areas. The workshops bring together local, State, and Federal response operators with emergency planners and other subject matter experts to develop catastrophic response plans based on real world modeling. The resulting hazard-specific annexes will supplement existing base plans for response and recovery. To date, local workshops and planning activities have been conducted in Arkansas, Indiana, Missouri, Illinois, Kentucky, and Tennessee, and workshops are scheduled in Mississippi and Alabama for early next year. Several States are also involved as potential host States to accept those evacuating areas hit by such a catastrophic earthquake. These States provided significant evacuee support following Hurricane Katrina. Being located in and near the New Madrid Seismic Zone, they would likely be called upon to assist evacuees. As you can imagine, there are many operational, logistical, and victim assistance activities that we will all need to respond to in any catastrophic event. I am proud of the coordinated and integrated activities that we are taking to be prepared for responding to a major event. The New Madrid Seismic Zone Initiative offers significant benefits, such as greater cross-disciplinary and inter-disciplinary involvement in the planning, including examining economic stabilization and post-disaster redevelopment issues. In fact, the lessons learned from this initiative will be exported to other catastrophic planning venues across the Nation. Administrator David Paulison noted recently that FEMA's mission is based upon the founding principles of this great Nation: Protecting life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The Founding Fathers banded together to create this Nation. In a similar fashion, we are banded together with our many partners to provide effective emergency management. None of us can or should try to do it alone. Working together, we can make sure that during the next catastrophic event, we have an integrated response system where all participants at all levels of government, the private sector, and non-governmental organizations understand their roles and responsibilities prior to the event occurring. Together, we can also educate the public on their role during disasters. Government, even perfectly synchronized, cannot provide the entire response. All of our citizens need to participate in the emergency management process and take responsibility for their personal preparedness. A catastrophic disaster, whether in the New Madrid Seismic Zone, along our Gulf Coast, or anywhere in the country, will impact all of us. As such we must all work together to be prepared. This concludes my testimony and I will be pleased to answer any questions. Thank you. Senator Pryor. Thank you. Mr. Hayes. TESTIMONY OF JOHN R. HAYES, JR.,\1\ DIRECTOR, NATIONAL EARTHQUAKE HAZARDS REDUCTION PROGRAM, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE Mr. Hayes. Chairman Pryor, I thank you and the Members of the Subcommittee for conducting today's hearing. I appreciate the opportunity to be here before you to present a brief overview of the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program (NEHRP), and the role that the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), plays in this partnership. NEHRP was established in 1977 to provide technical assistance for pre- earthquake mitigation activities by State and local governments, industry, and the private sector. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Hayes with an attachment appears in the Appendix on page 35. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- As background, I note that earthquakes strike without warning. In the past 200 years, very large magnitude earthquakes have occurred in Alaska, California, South Carolina, and the New Madrid region. There is evidence that such earthquakes have occurred in the more distant past in the Pacific Northwest, Utah, and other areas. A 2006 National Research Council report noted that 75 million people and half of our Nation's buildings, worth $8.6 trillion in 2003 dollars, are located in areas of the United States that are prone to damaging earthquakes. The United States has been fortunate not to have experienced recent severely damaging earthquakes, but considering our significant urbanization and societal interconnectivity, the consequences of earthquakes include significant injury and loss of life in addition to potentially severe economic and national security consequences. Experts consistently estimate that a ``big one'' that strikes a major U.S. urban area may cause over $100 billion in losses. Most recently reauthorized in 2004, NEHRP is responsible for three main areas: Improving the understanding of earthquakes and their effects through interdisciplinary research; developing effective measures for earthquake hazards reduction; and promoting the adoption of earthquake hazards reduction measures. The 2004 reauthorization also directed NEHRP to develop, operate, and maintain the Advanced National Seismic System, the George E. Brown, Jr. Network for Earthquake Engineering Simulation, and the Global Seismographic Network. Congress has indicated it intends for NEHRP to provide better earthquake preparedness for the Nation through interagency coordination and cooperation with the following program agency responsibilities. The National Science Foundation (NSF) supports a broad range of basic research that is integrated with educating students at all levels, as well as professional and public outreach. NSF has supported three National Earthquake Engineering Research Centers, one of which, the Mid-America Earthquake Center, is headquartered at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. NIST is responsible for performing problem-focused R&D to improve earthquake-resistant building codes, standards, tools, and practices. In the recent reauthorization, Congress directed NIST to assume the program lead agency role. The U.S. Geological Survey conducts and supports earth science investigations, produces seismic hazards assessments, monitors earthquake activity, and coordinates post-earthquake reconnaissance. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) translates research results into cost-effective State and local loss reduction measures. To do that, FEMA provides technical guidance and information about building codes and practices, supports public-private partnerships, provides estimates of potential losses, and supports public awareness education. In partial fulfillment of these responsibilities in the mid- continent region, FEMA supports the Central U.S. Earthquake Consortium. Consistent with the statutory responsibilities, FEMA leads NEHRP in working closely with the National Model Building Code organizations through the Building Seismic Safety Council to ensure that cost-effective earthquake construction techniques are incorporated in the Nation's building codes. The four program agencies are jointly developing plans for earthquake engineering research and outreach efforts that support this process. The 2004 NEHRP reauthorization directed several key new program developments. It directed the formation of an Interagency Coordinating Committee (ICC), that is composed of the directors of the four program agencies as well as the directors of the Office of Science and Technology Policy and the Office of Management and Budget. The ICC released its first annual report to the Congress on NEHRP in early 2007 and recently approved the outline for a new NEHRP strategic plan that is now under development. The plan will include several key areas of needed program emphasis that were endorsed by the ICC in 2006. The reauthorization also directed the formation of an Advisory Committee on Earthquake Hazard Reduction that advises the ICC chairperson on program technical direction. The committee was formed in early 2007 and has now met twice. At its most recent meeting in October, the committee provided detailed feedback for improving and refining the strategic plan that is now under development. As I mentioned earlier, NIST is responsible for performing applied engineering research that links fundamental science and engineering knowledge with its practical application for cost- effective design and construction of earthquake-resistant structures. Until fiscal year 2007, funding had not existed to support this responsibility. In fiscal year 2007, the Congress appropriated $800,000 of new monies that allowed NIST to initiate this NEHRP research. The President's fiscal year 2008 budget request added another $4.75 million for NIST earthquake research that would enable NIST to undertake a substantial program of coordinated in-house and extramural research. In conclusion, NEHRP focuses on pre-earthquake mitigation activities and has no direct operational responsibilities for post-earthquake response and recovery. However, NEHRP resources do support those activities, providing critical information to address this national hazard. Thank you very much, sir, for your attention, and I will be happy to answer any questions you might have. Senator Pryor. Thank you. Dr. Applegate. TESTIMONY OF DAVID APPLEGATE,\1\ SENIOR SCIENCE ADVISOR FOR EARTHQUAKES AND GEOLOGICAL HAZARDS, U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY Mr. Applegate. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding this hearing on a very important topic. From today's perspective, the three magnitude 7.5 to 8.0 earthquakes that struck the Mississippi Valley back in the winter of 1811 and 1812 seem quite distant, but infrequent events nevertheless represent very real risks, and if those earthquakes were to recur today, significant damage to buildings, transportation, and critical infrastructure would occur in at least eight States. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Applegate appears in the Appendix on page 44. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- At the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), we strive to deliver the information and tools that emergency managers, public officials, and citizens need to prevent natural hazards from becoming disasters. In collaboration with our partners in the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program plus State and local governments and universities, the USGS carries out our responsibilities under the Stafford Act to provide warnings and notifications on earthquakes and other geologic events as well as additional NEHRP roles to assess earthquake hazards, support targeted research, and help build public awareness. Now, why are there earthquakes in the Central United States? Although the large majority of earthquakes occur along the edges of the brittle tectonic plates that make up the earth's outer skin, earthquakes do occur far from present-day plate boundaries as the stresses from those boundary zones are translated into the more stable interiors, as in the case in the Central and Eastern United States. Such earthquakes are less frequent than in California or Alaska, but an earthquake in the mid-continent affects a much larger area than the same size earthquake in California, and that is reflected in both of the diagrams up here,\1\ the one on the dais showing comparison of a damaging earthquake, the Northridge earthquake in 1994, with the Marked Tree event in 1895, so that is sort of a moderate-size quake, and the one over here to my left, comparing the 1811 New Madrid events to the 1906 earthquake that destroyed the San Francisco area. You can see that the damage zones and the zones in which it was felt are much broader, and that is because in the Central United States, the crust is older and it is colder and it translates the energy from seismic waves much more efficiently. In the Mississippi Valley, in particular, you also have amplification of that shaking because of the very thick sediment, so that communities there are more intensely affected. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The charts referred to appears in the Appendix on page 65. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, geologic research shows that similar sequences of major earthquakes to those in 1811 and 1812 have happened at least twice before, in about 1450 A.D. and 900 A.D. We estimate that there is a 7 to 10 percent chance of an earthquake the size of those in 1811 and 1812 striking the region in the next 50 years. However, the occurrence of even a moderate-sized earthquake like the 1895 event close to urban centers like Memphis could be locally devastating. And the chances of a magnitude 6.0 earthquake occurring in this region in the next 50 years is 25 to 40 percent. Now, turning to response, knowing where shaking is most intense immediately after an earthquake can save lives by providing emergency responders with the situational awareness that they need to concentrate their efforts where they matter most. For that reason, USGS has been building the Advanced National Seismic System (ANSS) to modernize the Nation's seismic monitoring infrastructure and provide the most rapid information we can about strong shaking. Through ANSS, the USGS sends rapid reports of potentially damaging earthquakes to over 100,000 users, including the Departments of Defense, Homeland Security, State and local emergency managers, the news media, and the public. USGS monitors earthquakes in the Central United States in cooperation with the University of Memphis, St. Louis University, and the University of Kentucky. Now, within 5 minutes after a potentially damaging earthquake in the Central United States, notifications are sent to local, State, and Federal officials with the epicenter and preliminary magnitude. Within 20 minutes, an initial shake map is released, and that is shown here.\2\ It is on the left. This is a scenario shake map that was used for the recent SONS exercise for an 1811-type New Madrid event, with the strongest shaking shown in red. That is available in about 20 minutes, and then the products are refined as more data arrive, helping to prioritize response. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \2\ The chart referred to appears in the Appendix on page 65. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, 3 months ago, USGS began delivering a new product known as PAGER, the Prompt Assessment of Global Earthquakes for Response, which provides rapid estimates of population exposure to shaking, giving emergency responders and aid agencies a quick estimate of the extent of the likely response required, and that is what is shown on the right. In addition to shaking that would cause significant damage to today's buildings and lifelines, the 1811 and 1812 earthquakes also caused landslides along the bluffs from Mississippi to Kentucky. A type of ground failure called liquefaction caused soils to flow and may make roadways in the Mississippi Valley, such as I-55, impassable. It also can disrupt agriculture and cause levee failures. The citizens of this region need to be aware of the likely consequences of earthquakes. Through the Central United States Earthquake Consortium, testifying in the next panel, the USGS and FEMA partner with State emergency management agencies and geological surveys to provide information that they can use in their planning efforts and to educate the public. Mr. Chairman, while earthquakes are inevitable, their consequences to our building environment are not and there is much we can do as a Nation to improve our resilience to these and other natural hazards. This concludes my remarks. I will be pleased to answer any questions. Senator Pryor. Thank you, Dr. Applegate. Let me start with you, if I may, just to follow up on some of your testimony. You did a good job of summarizing them during your opening statement, I'd like to clarify the geological differences between an earthquake in the New Madrid area versus one in California. Tell us the geological reasons why you could see a more widespread area of damage. Mr. Applegate. Sure. Well, there are a couple of geologic factors involved. One of those is that out in the West, where we have got an active plate boundary, the crust is much more broken up. You have a much younger crust, a warmer crust. The energy from earthquake waves doesn't get transferred as far. For example, in that 1906 earthquake, it was felt about as far away as Nevada, but that was it. So all the energy was concentrated in a small area. In contrast, in the Central United States or the Eastern United States, this is very old crust. This has been part of the continent for a long time and it is older, it is colder, and so basically, just like ringing a bell, the waves are going to travel very efficiently through this medium. And so the same kind of waves are going to travel over a much broader area. And in the case of the Mississippi Valley itself, then you have a second factor which leads to damage and that is that you have this very thick accumulation of sediments--whenever you have a pile of sediment like that, it is just going to shake a lot harder than, say, a hard rock site. And so those two factors, I think, lead to increased shaking. Senator Pryor. Do you call that liquefaction? Mr. Applegate. Well, then at the surface, those are exactly the kind of sediments, when if mixed with water, when they are shaken, they lose all their strength and then you get the liquefaction, absolutely. Senator Pryor. And so if you have the phenomenon of liquefaction on the surface, what does that mean for buildings and infrastructure? Mr. Applegate. Well, it means that the ground has lost all its strength, and so it is essentially, it is turned into a slurry and so that can be a major challenge for buildings, for lifelines, and it is certainly one of the aspects in the catastrophic planning scenario that is being looked at in terms of the range of damages that could be experienced. Senator Pryor. And how long does that liquefaction, or liquefied state, remain on the surface? Is it over once the shaking stops, or does it remain there? Mr. Applegate. Well, it partly depends on how much of the groundwater basically gets squired out. So there are areas where you are going to get uplift. There are other areas where you are going to get substance. The whole ground surface is going to drop. In those areas, you may get flooding. For example, in certain agricultural areas, you could get flooding that would last for months. In other areas, it is going to be over relatively quick, but you are going to be dealing with a lot of ground rupturing and that sort of thing. Senator Pryor. Is there any practical rule of thumb on when you can start rebuilding after you have a major earthquake like that? Mr. Applegate. That is where the New Madrid earthquake poses an extra challenge compared to the kinds of earthquakes that we tend to see in other parts of the country. This sequence of large events that happened over a 2-month period in 1811, when we look back at the geologic record, it appears that there are similar sequences, so that may be sort of the characteristic way that the stress is relieved, which means that does need to be factored into the rebuilding, that you could have not just sort of week-after shocks, but you could have another major event in a month, and that certainly is critical in terms of how you make your decisions about rebuilding. Senator Pryor. Are those aftershocks predictable? Mr. Applegate. Earthquake prediction remains a huge challenge, and in some ways, we look at earthquakes and we have gotten pretty good at saying where earthquakes occur. The challenge is knowing when a big earthquake is going to occur. So our hazard maps are all about saying where--that is an example of where earthquakes are going to occur. But from a prediction standpoint, it may be that the earthquakes themselves don't actually know how large they are going to grow until the rupture has initiated. So a lot of folks have been trying, but have not yet succeeded. Senator Pryor. Geologically, in the New Madrid area, are you seeing signs that pressure is building or things are happening under the surface? Can you make an accurate prediction? You gave some statistics during your opening statement about a certain percentage chance over so many years. Could you run through those again? Mr. Applegate. Sure. The kind of forecasts that I was referring to are based on the same data that go into our National Seismic Hazard maps, and that then in turn is what gets built into building codes. And so we do that prediction or forecast over a 50-year period, which is sort of the life span of a typical building. The estimate based on the recurrence history of these previous large events and moderate-size events are for about a 7 to 10 percent chance over the next 50 years for a magnitude 7.0-plus event, but in the area of 25 to 40 percent for another one in the magnitude 6.0 range, sort of similar to that 1895 event that you have there. So again, those projections are about where earthquakes are going to occur and then can be fed into building codes that can make buildings stronger. Senator Pryor. And do you know anything about the building codes? Are people following those building codes out there? Mr. Applegate. Well, that is part of the handoff we have in NEHRP. Senator Pryor. I understand. Mr. Applegate. We prepare the maps and we work with FEMA to get those provisions built into model codes and then that is part of their NEHRP activity--is the actual looking at the adoptions. We certainly try to do what we can in conjunction in terms of building public awareness, but that is certainly a challenge. Senator Pryor. All right. Mr. Hayes, during your testimony you referred to FEMA, NIST, NSF, and USGS. We have a lot of Federal agencies involved here. Could you give us the one- minute description of the role each plays when it comes to earthquake planning and response? Could you give us a very brief summary on that? Mr. Hayes. Well, within NEHRP, sir, there is not a very extensive role that NEHRP plays in planning and response. The statute has NEHRP focusing on pre-disaster mitigation efforts. Within the legislation, essentially FEMA is levied with the responsibility for exercising the National Response Plan when an event occurs and work that USGS, our partners at USGS provide, as Mr. Applegate has described for you, provide information that is used in the response activities following an earthquake. NIST and NSF are responsible for providing research results that can then be worked by FEMA into the National Model Building Code process. But we don't actually play an active role other than what FEMA does and in what USGS does indirectly in the response activities following an earthquake. Senator Pryor. Mr. Hayes, is it your impression that information is flowing among the agencies as it should be, or can we improve there? Mr. Hayes. I think that the information is flowing very well. We have a very good working partnership, and I suppose you would expect me to say that anyway, but I really mean it. I have been asked that question before and it starts with developing personal relationships with the other people and the other agencies. I consider this young man here to be a real good friend and we work together very closely, and he gets so many e-mails and phone calls from me that he doesn't sometimes want to open the next one. But I think we are working together very well. And I think at the higher levels of the agencies, the creation of the Interagency Coordinating Committee, which is comprised of the agency directors---- Senator Pryor. I am sorry, go ahead. Mr. Hayes. No problem. I think that the creation of the Interagency Coordinating Committee, which was required by the 2004 reauthorization, has improved the communication process among the agencies even more because the agency directors or their representatives are meeting periodically and are in a room face-to-face to discuss the issues that are before the people at the working level in those agencies. So I think it is very good, actually. Senator Pryor. Good. Mr. Cannon, let me turn to you, if I may. There is a mystery here on the Subcommittee and it has to do with the Federal Contingency Plan Report. Apparently the staff asked FEMA for that last month, last week, and even yesterday, and we have been given assurances that it exists, but FEMA has failed to provide it to the Committee. Do you know anything about that? Mr. Cannon. What I can speak to is the fact that there is an Interim Contingency Plan---- Senator Pryor. Right. Mr. Cannon [continuing]. Which we developed early on in the process of the New Madrid Seismic Zone effort so that at FEMA and at the Federal level, we would have a coordinated approach to a no-notice event. It is just a draft. It is an interim. It is not a final document. But it is my understanding that this Friday, FEMA staff will be coming over and we are actually going to have a chance to go through and look at the event. But it has not been released because it is not ready yet to be released. Senator Pryor. When will it be ready for release? Mr. Cannon. Well, it is not the planning product, it is just what we would do in the event of something occurring tomorrow or next week. So it won't be complete until the end of all the workshops and all--because it is continually refined. As we do each State and we complete each State, then we add more details to it. But it began as a very generic, normal no-notice response template. Just as we have a notice template for hurricanes, we have a no-notice template that we are using for New Madrid. But it is the same no-notice template that we would essentially use if we had a terrorist event next week, as well. The primary difference between notice and no-notice is how much time you have to prepare to respond, and there are certain things that have to occur in every one of those events. So specifically, this one we did for New Madrid, but it is an ongoing process. So I wish I could tell you it would be done in a month or a year, but that is really not the case. It will transition into the final document for New Madrid when all the workshops are completed. Senator Pryor. Do you think it will be more than a year? Mr. Cannon. I do think it will be more than a year, we have only two more States to do some workshops in in the first quarter of 2008, so hopefully by mid-year, we might be able to share something that we could put out publicly. But again, it is an interim dynamic document. It is not meant to be a finished document at any point in time. Senator Pryor. But as I understand what you said a minute ago, you are going to make it available to our staffs on Friday of this week? Mr. Cannon. Yes, sir, in its present form, as it exists today. And each week you look at it, it is a snapshot of where we are at that moment in time because it constantly changes as we gather more information from the planning process. Senator Pryor. OK. There has been, as I said, a mystery for this document. I think previously we were given assurances that we could see it and have access to it and that just never has happened. Apparently as recently as this week, someone from your office brought over a stack of documents and a note saying the report was in there, but it wasn't. So if you are going to make it available this week, that would be very helpful and we will follow up accordingly. Mr. Cannon. Yes, sir. Friday, I understand, there will be a review of it with your staffs. Senator Pryor. Great. Let me ask this, Mr. Cannon, if I can. As I understand it, you have a tentative plan to do a major exercise relating to the New Madrid fault zone sometime in 2011, is that right? Mr. Cannon. Yes, sir. That is the date for the final completed plan and exercise. Senator Pryor. Do you know whether that is going to be a TOPOFF exercise? Mr. Cannon. No, I don't. Right now, we are building it as just our final exercise for New Madrid. I don't know if the next TOPOFF would include that or not. Senator Pryor. OK. And who makes that decision? Mr. Cannon. That decision is really done by Preparedness, which is now part of FEMA. It returned last April. I can certainly inquire for you if that could be considered as part of the TOPOFF scenario. Senator Pryor. Yes, I think that would be great because my experience with TOPOFF exercises is you just allocate more resources and more focus. If you look at the maps here, you can see how this could be a very catastrophic event for the United States. My sense is you ought to give it strong consideration for a TOPOFF---- Mr. Cannon. I should also add, sir, that in 2009 and 2010, we are also scheduled for regional exercises within--there are four FEMA regions that cover those eight States and so we have planned on smaller exercises within those regions building up to the final large exercise. And the other piece is that a portion of it was exercised in this year's Coast Guard-EPA Spills of National Significance on the Mississippi. Senator Pryor. OK. And let me ask you if you know about building codes. Are you familiar with how builders, etc., home builders and commercial builders, are doing in terms of complying with building codes and doing that type of prep work in anticipation of an earthquake? Mr. Cannon. I believe that through FEMA's Mitigation Directorate, we have developed model codes for this area, and I understand---- Senator Pryor. Are they being followed? Mr. Cannon. Well, I understand that some have been adopted at the local level. We will get back with you to report if there are any at the State level, but in my reading, I didn't come across that. I only came across that there were local governments that have adopted some codes. Senator Pryor. OK. Let me ask you, Mr. Cannon, while I have you, about the effect a major earthquake would have on interstate commerce. Has FEMA worked through scenarios about what would happen if the Mississippi River closed down and if bridges collapsed across the river? Do you have contingency plans? Mr. Cannon. Yes, sir. It is all part of the planning process, and this is a geographically-based, scenario-driven planning process that goes from the ground up. What we wanted to do was to make sure that everyone involved--the initial first responders, the local governments that would have to be involved, their State Governments, all are part of this process so that, one, they get to know each other before the event occurs, and two, they know what the expectations are of each other. So we are looking at this area from our level, at FEMA's level, as supporting all those local incident commanders and first responders as part of the National Incident Command System and Unified Command, but also our planning in how do we support this if the roadways are gone, river traffic may not be there, airfields may be disrupted. How are we going to get the resources in there to support that? And that is all part of our contingency planning that we are doing for New Madrid. That will all be included, but basically, we need to surround this and come in from all sides. Senator Pryor. The other thing there in that part of the country, it just happens there is a lot of rail infrastructure there, and also pipelines with natural gas and oil run through that area, so an earthquake could be very disruptive. You could have a major chemical spill either in the Mississippi River or somewhere in that region--or many places in that region, in fact. So again, this could be a major catastrophic event. Mr. Cannon, do you know a lot about the insurance industry? I know after Hurricane Katrina, there were some very serious problems with the insurance industry about wind damage versus water damage. I know that there is such a thing as earthquake insurance. Does FEMA or your office get into when that should be recommended and what happens if people don't carry that? Mr. Cannon. No, sir, not my office. We do operations, disaster operation response, but I believe we could get you some information from Mitigation that would provide what you are asking for. Senator Pryor. That would be great. One of my concerns there is after Hurricane Katrina, the wind damage---- Mr. Cannon. Yes. Senator Pryor [continuing]. Versus the water damage, and you can have that same type of scenario with an earthquake, because it may be the earthquake causes a fire and the house burns down. Mr. Cannon. Yes, sir. Senator Pryor. It could be a mud slide or a flood when a levee breaks or whatever the situation is. It may not be the earthquake itself. We talked in the Commerce Committee, of which I am a member, about an all-hazards-approach. I know that is out of your bailiwick, but I hope that the government and the insurance industry are talking, so I would encourage FEMA to reach out and work with Congress and work with the insurance industry on that. Mr. Cannon. Yes, sir. We will get back to you with that. Senator Pryor. You guys did a great job in your opening statements and you covered some of these questions previously. Why don't I go ahead and close this panel and I will ask the second panel to come up, but again remind this panel before you leave that some of our Members aren't here today and we may have some follow-up questions. I want to thank this panel for being here and appreciate your expertise and your looking at the New Madrid situation. Thank you very much. Mr. Hayes. Thank you. Mr. Applegate. Thank you. Mr. Cannon. Thank you, sir. Senator Pryor. With that, I will call the second panel up here, and as they are getting squared away and the two panels are switching places, let me go ahead and introduce our second panel of witnesses. The first witness will be David Maxwell. He is Director of the Arkansas Department of Emergency Management. As Director, Mr. Maxwell chairs the Arkansas Homeland Security Advisory Group and serves on several emergency management committees and councils for the State of Arkansas. At the national level, he is Vice Chair of the Central United States Earthquake Consortium (CUSEC), and participates as a State member of the National Emergency Management Association. The second witness we have will be Callen Hays, Crisis Management Coordinator for Memphis Light, Gas, and Water. Mr. Hays served as the project manager for the construction of the Memphis Light, Gas, and Water's new emergency operations center, which opened last June. He also served as the project manager for the hazard mitigation study that was commissioned by Memphis Light, Gas, and Water in 2006. Mr. Hays is a licensed professional engineer for the State of Tennessee and has worked with his company for 13 years. So with that, Mr. Maxwell, go ahead. TESTIMONY OF DAVID MAXWELL,\1\ DIRECTOR, ARKANSAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND VICE CHAIR, CENTRAL UNITED STATES EARTHQUAKE CONSORTIUM Mr. Maxwell. Thank you, Chairman Pryor, Senator Sununu, and other Members of the Subcommittee. I appreciate the opportunity to appear before you today. As stated, I am David Maxwell, Director of the Arkansas Department of Emergency Management (ADEM), as well as the current Vice Chair of the Central United States Earthquake Consortium (CUSEC). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Maxwell appears in the Appendix on page 51. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADEM's role in planning for an earthquake along the New Madrid Seismic Zone falls into two areas. The first and primary area of focus is to establish and implement an earthquake preparedness program to ensure the safety and well-being of the citizens of Arkansas from the risks associated with earthquakes within the State, and second to address those aspects outside the State which would certainly have a direct effect on Arkansas. We take an all-hazards approach when planning and perform a gap analysis for specific hazards where needed. This requires the full cooperation of all other State and local government agencies, departments, and personnel. CUSEC serves as a coordinating hub for the region, performing the critical role of coordinating multi-State efforts of the Central Region. While each individual State is the primary implementor of emergency management functions, CUSEC's role is largely facilitative in uniting and coordinating actions of the eight States in the New Madrid Seismic Zone--Alabama, Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, and Tennessee. In 1997, Congress enacted the Earthquake Hazards Reduction Act in recognition of the fact that earthquakes pose the greatest potential threat of any single event natural hazard confronting the Nation. It directed the President to establish and maintain an effective Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program. In doing this, Congress created the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program, which gives the responsibility to the Federal Government to provide direction, coordination, research, and other support efforts aimed at earthquake hazard mitigation and preparedness. The Federal Emergency Management Agency, the U.S. Geological Survey, the National Science Foundation, and the National Institute of Standards and Technology were assigned specific roles. While national attention focused on the high-risk areas such as California, the late Dr. Otto Nuttli of St. Louis University was pioneering research on the dangers of earthquakes in the Central United States. His research provided the conclusive evidence that prompted the creation of CUSEC in 1983. FEMA, in full cooperation with the States most at risk from a New Madrid seismic event, laid the groundwork for the formulation of CUSEC that year. This partnership was built around four goal areas: Public outreach and education, multi- State planning, mitigation, and application of research to address the hazard and associated risk. The primary mission is the reduction of deaths, injuries, property damage, and economic losses resulting from earthquakes in the Central United States. Authority for CUSEC is vested in the Board of Directors, which is composed of the Directors of Emergency Management for the eight member States. As Director of ADEM, I oversee every aspect of emergency management for the State of Arkansas. This includes the planning, mitigation, response and recovery efforts for an earthquake. My written remarks today deal specifically with what could happen should a catastrophic earthquake occur in the area. There is always work to be done in preparedness. While I cannot show you where preparedness works, I can show you where it was not used. We exercise and plan according to current research and upgrade it constantly to keep up with new developments. There will always be a need to practice coordination between local, State, and Federal organizations involved. A challenge will always be the lack of warning that an earthquake presents. Arkansas, as well as the other CUSEC member States, are constantly improving their catastrophic plans to address issues that will arise when an earthquake strikes. The biggest challenge we have is selling the need for preparedness on earthquakes. Because we do not live in a State where earthquakes are a regular occurrence, the thought tends to be that they will not happen. While we all know that earthquakes cannot be prevented, certainly we can minimize casualties and damages by being prepared. I cannot overemphasize the importance of awareness and self-preparation. Thank you so much for your kind attention. It has been my honor to be with you today and I will be happy to attempt to answer any questions. Senator Pryor. Thank you. It is great to see you again, Mr. Hays. TESTIMONY OF CALLEN HAYS,\1\ CRISIS MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, MEMPHIS LIGHT, GAS, AND WATER Mr. Hays. Let me begin with a quick apology. I am currently battling some laryngitis issues, so I know my voice will come and go during my statement. Just bear with me. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Mr. Hays appears in the Appendix on page 59. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Memphis Light, Gas, and Water since 1989 has spent $16 million to upgrade our water production facilities. We have been awarded almost $4 million in FEMA grants to retrofit four out of eight water pumping facilities and nearly 60 water production wells. Given the past success of these efforts, MLG&W felt there were other mitigation opportunities for our gas and electric systems. Determining the most effective spending of money relative to size and mitigation is a question not many utilities have the personnel and the expertise to handle. In early 2006, we budgeted for and contracted an all-hazard mitigation study to R.W. Howe and Associates. This study would recommend where each network is most vulnerable to various natural hazards and where the most effective spending of retrofit dollars reside and the best opportunities to apply for Federal funding. No one can predict the exact amount of damage or cost of an event like this. The majority of damage taking the longest amount of time to restore would be the water treatment plants that have yet to be seismically mitigated, underground pipelines on gas and water distribution systems, and unanchored transformers at electric substations. There is no economically feasible way to mitigate underground pipelines. Strengthening the above-ground collection, control, and distribution points of all three networks will reduce the down-time. It will be a lengthy restoration process for customers. It certainly will take months, not weeks, to restore. Widespread outages of all three systems varying in restoration time will occur. The outage time will be based on many factors that are difficult to quantify: A customer's location relative to the system failure; condition of overpasses and bridges that may prevent easy access of materials, equipment, and mutual aid labor forces from arriving in the region; the ability of MLG&W's remote monitoring system to remain intact; and the amount of down time of our wholesale suppliers of electricity and gas. If TVA's transmission system is down or there are several breaks along the natural gas pipelines of our suppliers, then the rigidity and strength of our system will be inconsequential. MLG&W's restoration priorities are to preserve life safety first and foremost, which means reestablishing services to hospitals, water pumping stations, and sewer treatment plants are the highest priority. There are other ways that we are preparing ourselves for this seismic event. We have been replacing our cast iron gas distribution system in the inner city of Memphis. Cast iron gas pipe is more subject to failure with sudden ground motion than polyethylene pipe, which is much more flexible. Since 1991, MLG&W has spent $48 million to replace 206 miles of cast iron gas pipe. MLG&W recognizes and is adopting the National Incident Management System and the Incident Command Structure into its emergency response protocol. We require all members of our crisis response teams to be both NIMS and ICS trained and certified. MLG&W bought a new business building back in 2003 that was seismically retrofitted for immediate occupancy and operability following a magnitude 7.0 earthquake. We placed all critical telecommunications, computer network servers, and a new emergency operations center in this building. The increased awareness of the constant work that has to be done for business continuity and disaster recovery planning for MLG&W operations has justified the process of creating an area department focused on crisis management. MLG&W works hard to integrate itself with other local, State, and Federal Governments, as well as private sector partners, to discuss ways of improving this area's emergency management readiness. We have upper management employees that serve on several local business continuity and disaster recovery planning committee boards. We have made efforts to educate the community on how it can be more self-reliant following a catastrophic event. Partnering with our local PBS station, we broadcast a show called ``Memphis Energized.'' On one of these shows, we teach our customers how to shut off their gas and water services in case of an emergency, how to strap gas-fired hot water heaters to house framework, and to have a personal emergency plan ready. Our local EMA office teaches Community Emergency Response Team classes, or CERT classes, to help residents learn how to endure a long-term emergency event. The public needs to understand after a large earthquake it can and will be months, not days, before many utility services are restored and they need to be educated on how they can be ready. There are a couple areas where improvements can be made to help utilities in this area prepare for an earthquake. The Federal mitigation money available to support seismic retrofits for public utility infrastructure is an annual pre-disaster mitigation program. For 2008, the program only had $100 million available nationwide, of which perhaps 10 percent was allocated to utility projects. Given the criticality of utilities to life preservation and economic well-being of this region and the Nation, more funding earmarked for seismic utility retrofit work, as well as giving some priority to our utilities located in the New Madrid, is needed. MLG&W had the resources to fund a comprehensive hazard mitigation study. Many rural and small utility companies cannot afford this type of analysis. Funding for these types of studies to help guide smaller utilities on their mitigation strategies would be helpful. Enhancing public education concerning residential emergency preparedness is needed. MLG&W voluntarily began mitigating its utility systems back in 1999. Many utilities and energy suppliers may not be taking this threat as seriously. Utility distributors are dependent on wholesale suppliers of electricity and gas. The government needs to ensure that both public and private wholesale suppliers of electricity and gas in the New Madrid Seismic Zone area have considered this threat and are taking steps to mitigate their own systems. This concludes my testimony. Thanks. Senator Pryor. Let me, if I may, start with you, Mr. Maxwell. You probably heard me quiz the FEMA witness earlier about this contingency plan. He said it was a draft, it is not ready yet, it may be a year or more before it is completed. But from your standpoint, given the position you hold in the State, have you been contacted to give any input into that report? Mr. Maxwell. Well, if I understood Mr. Cannon's remark, they are basing a lot of the State input on the workshops that we are conducting that FEMA is funding. So they are getting State input through those workshops. Senator Pryor. OK. Have you seen a draft of the report at all? Mr. Maxwell. No. Senator Pryor. OK. And also let me ask you about a story that came out recently that the White House, OMB, may propose in fiscal year 2009, to eliminate Emergency Management Performance Grants (EMPG), from the budget in the 2009 fiscal year. While I understand that nothing has been finalized and this news report is based on a leak and it is a very tentative proposal, I would like to get your thoughts on that, about how the State of Arkansas and other States use EMPG grants and what would happen if we lost access to that funding source. Mr. Maxwell. Well, the EMPG grants go to fund part of our agency and to a large degree funds the local emergency managers in every county. We share a portion of that grant with our local officials to help fund the salaries of the local emergency managers. So the short answer to it all is if you want to do away with the emergency management system in this Nation, you do away with that grant. Senator Pryor. Yes. And you may not know right off the top of your head, but do you know how much Arkansas has received from that grant annually? Mr. Maxwell. Off the top of my head, I believe it was around $3 million this year. Senator Pryor. OK. And I assume that other States get a rough---- Mr. Maxwell. Equivalent---- Senator Pryor [continuing]. Amount of that based on population and---- Mr. Maxwell. It is based on population---- Senator Pryor. Yes. Mr. Maxwell. We get about one percent of what is allocated nationwide. Senator Pryor. So it would be a considerable detriment to State and local emergency management efforts? Mr. Maxwell. Yes, sir. That is putting it mildly. Senator Pryor. OK. Mr. Hays, I know your voice is not holding up so well today, but let me ask a few questions. We are talking about grants. You mentioned that you have received some grants to retrofit and otherwise strengthen some of your facilities. How has that gone, and when you do that, do you report back to the Federal Government on what you are doing and how that is going? Give us a sense of what that has been like. Mr. Hays. The reporting structure back, I am not really familiar with that, but I do know that the $4 million total that I mentioned earlier is spread out over four different grants that we were awarded through FEMA and all those grants were relative to our water production facilities, things like bracing aerators, filtration systems, pump buildings, some of our water treatment plants. The theory is you can't keep underground pipelines from breaking apart when an earthquake like this happens, but if you can keep an above-ground water treatment plant that takes years to build, then the amount of time it takes to band-aid your pipelines, to get them so the water is flowing through again, quickly and help the restoration process. So we focused on our grants doing water treatment. Senator Pryor. Great. And as part of this effort, it sounds like Memphis Light, Gas, and Water has gone through a risk assessment study to understand where the weak links are in the system, so to speak, and I am sure Memphis Light, Gas, and Water has tried to predict the results of a serious earthquake. Give us a sense of what you think might happen in Memphis if there was a serious earthquake like is depicted on some of these maps.\1\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The charts referred to appears in the Appendix on page 65. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Hays. We partner with the Mid-America Earthquake, share that information with them and they have given us some estimates from their models that show, I think, $56 billion in economic loss for the State of Tennessee with majority of losses in the Memphis and Shelby County region and $15 billion of that is directly related to utility infrastructure costs. How real those numbers are computer generated based on data and uncertainty about exactly where the ground is going to liquefy and the amount of ground shaking relative to where you have critical infrastructure is unknown. But it is going to take an extremely long amount of time to repair especially an underground infrastructure, pipelines. And as you mentioned earlier, there are also three major natural gas suppliers that go through Shelby County and that continues on to the north, Texas Gas, Trunkline, and ANR. Senator Pryor. Yes. Mr. Hays. So that needs to be considered, as well. Senator Pryor. Right. And what about your staffing, because it seems to me if you have a catastrophic event like this, you will by necessity be short-handed because a lot of your people will be out in the metro area when this happens, and will not be able to come in to you. Do you have contingency plans for that on how you are going to try to handle the staffing needs and to try to restore those services as quickly as possible? Mr. Hays. We have crisis teams already established, an electric crisis team, gas crisis team, and a water crisis team, and each person on each of those teams have back-up personnel and each with their responsibilities. It is going to be difficult to know who is going to be able to be available for work and even their back-ups. Everyone will certainly understand the first day or two will be spent with most people taking care of their families and making their own personal life secure. It is almost like, as you know, hope for the best, having everything backed up and hope they can make it. Senator Pryor. As someone told me one time, hope for the best, but plan for the worst. Mr. Hays. Correct. Senator Pryor. You heard me talk with the FEMA witness a few minutes ago about a large-scale exercise where you have all levels of government working together--Federal, State, local. Get the private sector involved, volunteer organizations, health providers, etc., first responders, all that, everybody doing a large-scale simulation or a big exercise. Have you all done something like that and did it, or would it benefit you to do that? Mr. Hays. We have. We participated in the SONS 2007 exercise this past June that was based on a large-scale magnitude earthquake and we corresponded with our local EMA office participating in that drill. Senator Pryor. And was that beneficial to you? Mr. Hays. It was. The key weakness that is brought up time and again is communications. That will be a difficult task to overcome logistically as one's land lines are cut and cell phone towers fall or networks are overwhelmed. Using other means of communications will be difficult. Senator Pryor. Right. Mr. Maxwell, let me turn to you, if I can. We talked about CUSEC earlier. You are involved with that group and I think that is great. And as a member of that group plus what you do in Arkansas, what sort of guidance are you getting from the Federal Government in your planning and response effort? Are they working with you on a regional level or just on the State level, or tell us how that is going. Mr. Maxwell. We have a little of both, actually. We are, in these series of workshops that we are doing that are funded by FEMA, we did three in the State of Arkansas. We did three local workshops to enable a lot of local responders and local officials to be involved to really start to identify the gaps that are out there that we need to respond to. Then we had a State-wide workshop to take the information gleaned from the local workshops and pull it together to see what the State could do. We are hoping that we can prevail upon FEMA to release the funds that we did not spend on those workshops to go back out to the local governments and do a series of tabletops to really solidify a lot of the information that came out in the larger workshops. Senator Pryor. And how helpful are the tabletops? You just did one last month? Mr. Maxwell. Yes, sir. Actually, we have done two within a month. Governor Beebe, as you know, is very interested in all of this and he has pulled his cabinet together, or certain segments of the cabinet together to do tabletop exercises. We have done one on terrorism. The last one we did was on earthquakes, which was extremely beneficial for us. After that tabletop, the governor instructed me to, within the next couple of weeks, which we have done, to run the same scenario again but with the deputy directors of the agencies, not just with the directors, to ensure that we don't have major fall-off if the directors aren't available. So we are looking at that continuity of operations aspect. Senator Pryor. Now, when you are doing these tabletops, I know that is mostly in Arkansas, but when you look at the red zone here, clearly at a minimum in all these maps, you get Arkansas, Missouri, and Tennessee, and in other maps you get a lot bigger red zone in that. Do you work with Missouri, Tennessee, your counterparts there? Mr. Maxwell. Yes, sir. As a matter of fact, I leave here today and will be attending a CUSEC Board of Directors meeting with my counterparts in all of those States to discuss issues and make sure that we are coordinating our efforts. Senator Pryor. Is the State of Arkansas, as well as these other States, coordinating with States that may be out on the rim, like Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, etc., that hopefully won't be as adversely impacted as us toward the center will be and to establish mutual aid agreements with them? Have we gone that far? Mr. Maxwell. Yes, sir. One of the things that we are working on very hard and one of the lessons that we learned from Hurricane Katrina, actually, was that we do have to have those plans in place to shelter a large number of people from our State. And so we have had discussions with Oklahoma, Texas, other States in the FEMA Region 6 so that in the event--we have a Memorandum of Understanding in writing with Louisiana that goes two ways. If there is a hurricane, we will accept their evacuees, and if there is an earthquake, they will accept ours. Senator Pryor. Great. Mr. Maxwell, in your testimony, you said something I thought was insightful. You said the biggest challenge is, ``selling the need for preparedness on earthquakes,'' especially in our part of the country, because we just don't have a lot of experience with that. I mean, we talk about something that happened in 1811 or 1895. There are just not a whole lot of people around who went through that before. So my question is how do you educate the public? Is it Public Service Announcements? Is it through the public schools? What can the Federal Government do to better bring public awareness to the real danger of an earthquake in our State and this region? Mr. Maxwell. Well, I think the answer to that is yes to all of the above. Really, we need to do Public Service Announcements. We do town hall meetings where we go out and try to educate the general public. We are going to try some new things. With all of my gray hair, you can tell I am not really up on a lot of the newer technology, but we have staff that are exploring how to use You Tube and other things that the younger generation automatically uses to put educational messages out. We are going to try anything that we possibly can that might work. A couple of years back, I was sitting in a meeting talking about earthquakes and somebody that was very involved in preparedness leaned over to me and said, ``You know, we ought to put out messages that people need to be prepared.'' We do that all the time, and so obviously our message isn't being heard. So our problem is finding a way to get that message out where it will be heard. It is not working, the traditional means, so we will try any avenue. Senator Pryor. Well, I think it is human nature for people to naturally want to filter out and not pay a lot of attention to the earthquake threat because they don't feel that sense of urgency or it is not real to them, but I tell you, if you go down to New Orleans and you see the devastation they have gone through, it makes you appreciate the destructive power of Mother Nature. Anything we can do on the Federal level to help educate people and provide the resources to do what you need to do to get the word out to the public, we need to try to do it. Probably with Memphis, you guys might put bill inserts in periodically and things like that. We just need to continue to raise awareness. Even though that first message usually doesn't work, after people are exposed to that message a number of times, hopefully, it will start sinking in. Listen, that is all the questions I had. Again, we are going to have some Senators who could not be here today who may submit questions for the record. I just want to thank our two panels for all that they do and the panelists. I notice that Dr. Applegate stayed. We appreciate that, and the staff from the previous panel stayed. We really appreciate that, your staying to listen. I just want to tell you that this is something that is very real. There is a very real danger. We don't know how imminent it is. That is one of the things that is very elusive here. But we know that at some point, if it does happen, it could be a major catastrophic event and we need to do all we can to be prepared for it. So again, I want to thank you all for coming here. I know some of you traveled a great distance to be here and I appreciate that. The last thing I was going to say is we are going to leave the record open for 2 weeks and allow Senators to submit their questions in writing. So if you all get some questions in writing, we would appreciate a rapid turn-around. With that, I want to thank all the Subcommittee staff and all the Senators and their staffs for doing this and certainly all the witnesses and the media for being here. Thank you very much. The hearing is adjourned. [Whereupon, at 3:57 p.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned.] A P P E N D I X ---------- [GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT]