[Senate Hearing 114-673] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] S. Hrg. 114-673 DOGS OF DHS: HOW CANINE PROGRAMS CONTRIBUTE TO HOMELAND SECURITY ======================================================================= HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED FOURTEENTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION __________ MARCH 3, 2016 __________ Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.fdsys.gov/ Printed for the use of the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs [GRAPHIC NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 22-766PDF WASHINGTON : 2017 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Publishing Office, http://bookstore.gpo.gov. For more information, contact the GPO Customer Contact Center, U.S. Government Publishing Office. Phone 202-512-1800, or 866-512-1800 (toll-free). E-mail, [email protected]. COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS RON JOHNSON, Wisconsin Chairman JOHN McCAIN, Arizona THOMAS R. CARPER, Delaware ROB PORTMAN, Ohio CLAIRE McCASKILL, Missouri RAND PAUL, Kentucky JON TESTER, Montana JAMES LANKFORD, Oklahoma TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin MICHAEL B. ENZI, Wyoming HEIDI HEITKAMP, North Dakota KELLY AYOTTE, New Hampshire CORY A. BOOKER, New Jersey JONI ERNST, Iowa GARY C. PETERS, Michigan BEN SASSE, Nebraska Keith B. Ashdown, Staff Director Jose J. Bautisa, Senior Professional Staff Member Rebecca N. Nuzzi, Professional Staff Member Gabrielle A. Batkin, Minority Staff Director John P. Kilvington, Minority Deputy Staff Director Holly A. Idelson, Minority Senior Counsel Brian B. Turbyfill, Minority Senior Professional Staff Member Abigail A. Shenkle, Minority Professional Staff Member Laura W. Kilbride, Chief Clerk Benjamin C. Grazda, Hearing Clerk C O N T E N T S ------ Opening statements: Page Senator Johnson.............................................. 1 Senator Carper............................................... 3 Prepared statements: Senator Johnson.............................................. 25 Senator Carper............................................... 27 Senator Peters............................................... 29 WITNESS Thursday, March 3, 2016 Doug Timberlake, Transportation Security Inspector, Transportation Security Administation; accompanied by Rriverso. 1 Jennifer Jones, Agriculture Specialist, U.S. Customs and Border Protection; accompanied by Hudson.............................. 2 Patrick Dowling, Officer/Instructor, U.S. Customs and Border Protection; accompanied by Nicky............................... 2 Kimberly S. Hutchinson, Deputy Assistant Administrator, Office of Training and Development, Transportation Security Administration, U.S. Department of Homeland Security........... 5 Damian Montes, Director, Canine Training Program, Office of Training and Development, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, U.S. Department of Homeland Security; accompanied by Robert Lukason and Keith Barker....................................... 7 Jennifer Grover, Director, Homeland Security and Justice, U.S. Government Accountability Office............................... 9 Cynthia M. Otto, D.V.M., Ph.D., Executive Director, Penn Vet Working Dog Center, University of Pennsylvania; accompanied by Jerry.......................................................... 10 Alphabetical List of Witnesses Dowling, Patrick: Testimony.................................................... 2 Grover, Jennifer: Testimony.................................................... 9 Prepared statement........................................... 43 Hutchinson, Kimberly S.: Testimony.................................................... 5 Joint prepared statement..................................... 31 Jones, Jennifer: Testimony.................................................... 2 Montes, Damian: Testimony.................................................... 7 Joint prepared statement..................................... 31 Otto, Cynthia M., D.V.M., Ph.D.: Testimony.................................................... 10 Prepared statement........................................... 58 Timberlake, Doug: Testimony.................................................... 1 APPENDIX Statements submitted for the Record from: American Civil Liberties Union............................... 69 Responses to post-hearing questions for the Record from: Ms. Hutchinson and Mr. Montes................................ 76 DOGS OF DHS: HOW CANINE PROGRAMS CONTRIBUTE TO HOMELAND SECURITY ---------- THURSDAY, MARCH 3, 2016 U.S. Senate, Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Washington, DC. The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:02 a.m., in room SD-342, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Ron Johnson, Chairman of the Committee, presiding. Present: Senators Johnson, Ayotte, Ernst, Carper, and Peters. OPENING STATEMENT OF CHAIRMAN JOHNSON Chairman Johnson. Good morning. This hearing will come to order. I am really looking forward to this hearing. This is something that has been really a couple of years in the planning from my standpoint, because I have always been intrigued by the capabilities of canine units and I love dogs, particularly little puppies like Jerry. What we are going to first start out with is we are going to introduce the two canine teams that later will be doing a demonstration for us. The first is the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) canine team. Doug Timberlake is a Transportation Security Inspector for TSA, and he is here with his partner, Rriverso, who has a pretty special name, named after somebody who was lost in the World Trade Center, I was told. Mr. Timberlake, kind of walk through it. TESTIMONY OF DOUG TIMBERLAKE, TRANSPORTATION SECURITY INSPECTOR, TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION; ACCOMPANIED BY RRIVERSO Mr. Timberlake. Good morning, Mr. Chairman. Good morning, Ranking Member. My name is Douglas Timberlake. I am an explosive detection canine handler with the Transportation Security Administration. My passenger screening canine, Rriverso, and I work at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport. We conduct screening operations throughout various parts of the airport looking for both stationary improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and person-borne IEDs to ensure the safety of the traveling public. There is no machine that can detect the presence of explosive materials the way that a canine can. Machines can confirm the presence of explosive substances, but they cannot reason and problem-solve to find the source of a substance. In a few minutes, you will see a demonstration of what it looks like when Rriverso alerts on a traveler carrying explosive material during a checkpoint screening operation. Finally, I would like to point out that Rriverso is named after Joseph Riverso, who was from White Plains, New York, and was in one of the World Trade Center towers on 9/11. A few years ago, he got to meet the family in New York, and I try to tell as many people as possible that he is out here keeping us all safe in Joe's name. Chairman Johnson. Well, thank you. That is a wonderful tribute. Thank you for your service. Next we will bring our Customs and Border Protection (CBP) canine team, and this is Jennifer Jones, an Agriculture Specialist working with the Office of Field Operations at the Customs and Border Protection agency. She is here with her partner, Hudson. TESTIMONY OF JENNIFER JONES, AGRICULTURE SPECIALIST, U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION; ACCOMPANIED BY HUDSON Ms. Jones. Hi. I am Jennifer Jones. I am with Customs and Border Protection. I am an agriculture handler. My partner is Hudson. He is an approximately 8-year-old Beagle that came out of Daytona Animal Control, Daytona, Florida. He is trying to find fruits, plants, meats, and seeds that are in the baggage of passengers that are entering the United States. He runs about 95 percent accurate most days. He does sometimes make a little mistake here and there, but he is usually pretty good. He has found everything from a single grape up to about 100 pounds of coarse sausage that was in a bag. Chairman Johnson. What kind of dog is he, again? Ms. Jones. He is a Beagle. Chairman Johnson. He is a Beagle, OK. That is a pretty good size Beagle. I had one of those when I was growing up. Ms. Jones. He is on the bigger end. Chairman Johnson. Ours was plumper. [Laughter.] Ms. Jones. They can get fat. He walks a lot. Chairman Johnson. Well, thank you. Next we have Patrick Dowling, and Patrick is a Customs and Border Protection Officer and Instructor. He is here with his partner, Nicky. TESTIMONY OF PATRICK DOWLING, OFFICER/INSTRUCTOR, U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION; ACCOMPANIED BY NICKY Mr. Dowling. Good morning. As you said, my name is Patrick Dowling. This is Nicky. He is a Belgian Malinois. He is 3 years old. He is trained to U.S. currency--and firearms. I currently work at the Dulles International Airport. We focus most of our efforts on the outbound side of detection for currency. Some of the significant things that he has done outbound finding currency is we intercept folks traveling out of the country and a lot of times they do make an initial report, and once they go by the dog, we find out a lot of times that those reports are not accurate. So we have to send them back. He is in the million dollar club about three times over now, so he has found about $3 million in 2 years. Chairman Johnson. Well, thank you, Mr. Dowling. And, again, we are looking forward to the demonstration, which we will have when we have another member showing up, and I do want to have the Senator see that. Unfortunately, it has been a pretty busy day for different hearings and important hearings, so we do not have quite as many people as I had hoped. But we will convey the experience to everybody else. I would ask unanimous consent that my written opening statement be entered into the record.\1\ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Senator Johnson appears in the Appendix on page 25. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- As I was saying before, this is a hearing that I have been wanting to hold for a couple of years. As we have held hearings on airport security and border security, I have been intrigued by the capabilities and the cost evaluation of using canine units, because I know they are very effective. And then I was fortunate to be hosted by Senator Pat Toomey at the University of Pennsylvania and the training center there, and we will have Dr. Otto talk about that in greater depth. But it was unbelievable in terms of the demonstration that we were shown at the University of Pennsylvania, and so I am so pleased that Dr. Otto is here. But when we take a look at airport security, I think as we talk to Secretary Jeh Johnson, always on his mind is the threat in terms of airlines and airline safety. I really do believe canine units can be one of those layers and a very effective layer in keeping this Nation safe and keeping our air traffic safe as well. So, again, I am really looking forward to this hearing. I am looking forward to the testimony. I want to thank the witnesses for coming and for your thoughtful testimony. And with that, I will turn it over to Senator Carper. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR CARPER Senator Carper. Thanks, Mr. Chairman, and thanks for bringing us all together. I think most of us in the room have probably had a dog or two in our lives, and the Chairman mentioned that he once had a ``plump Beagle,'' I think he said. It reminds me that when I was a little boy, 5, 6, 7 years old, we had--in fact, up until I was about 12 or 13, we had Jack and Jill, a husband and wife team of Beagles. And they were great rabbit dogs. They chased a lot of rabbits. They were not plump. They were in great shape. But it sort of like reminds me of some of the joy we had with all of them, using their noses to find not currency, not weapons, but to look for rabbits, and to find a bunch of them as well. I just want to say that during multiple visits I have been fortunate to take down to our Southern Border and up to our Northern Border, I have always been impressed by the use of many force multipliers that help our border security officers maximize their effectiveness. Oftentimes, these force multipliers are high-tech. They are drones, they are fixed-wing aircraft, they are helicopters, they are aerostats, they are night vision cameras, surveillance cameras, motion detectors. You name it. But, also, sometimes we find out that our officers get critical help from some low-tech friends. I am thinking of the horses that guide the Border Patrol--I am sure you remember that visit down at the Texas border with Mexico--border agents trying to make their way through dense brush on horseback and, fortunately, because of the horses, they are able to do a much better job. And then we find that there are those gifted dogs, some of whom we are going to meet today, who can help find things and threats that are invisible to us as human beings. As we will hear, and perhaps even see, I think, later in the hearing, some of our specially trained dogs, how they can detect people or things that humans or machines just miss. Canines are already at work, as we know, across a number of Department of Homeland Security (DHS) programs. For instance, DHS uses dogs to check for explosives within our airports and trains like the one I took today. We also see dogs hard at work between our ports of entry (POE) where they attempt to detect the illegal entry of people and goods. We know that the special abilities of these animals have already contributed to our homeland security. For example, canine teams are credited with helping CBP seize more than 4,500 pounds of heroin in the last fiscal year (FY). That same year, dogs helped to track thousands of migrants along the southwest border of our country and discovered 83 people hiding in vehicles crossing through ports of entry. Other dogs have helped detect illicit plants or animals, while some helped find human remains near our borders. Security is not their only mission. Dogs have also been invaluable in search and rescue following natural disasters. This is an area where I am not sure we are doing enough to take advantage really of their capabilities. At the same time, these valuable tools are not free. Dogs with the proper abilities and temperament to conduct searches are expensive to buy and even more expensive to train and to deploy effectively, and we will hear about that today. As with all of our security investments, we must make sure we are deploying these canine teams in the most cost-effective way. Today we are going to hear about some of the open questions regarding canine teams. I think, in particular, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) has taken a hard look at TSA's canine program and raised some questions about how and where they are trained and deployed. And while TSA has successfully addressed some of GAO's earlier concerns, I understand that some other questions remain, and maybe we will have a chance to hear those today. I look forward to hearing from both agencies about the current status of their canine programs and plans for the future. We also need to drill down on what these canines can and cannot accomplish and what information is needed to make sure we are making the right investments in these force multipliers. This is going to be an interesting hearing, and we look forward to it. Thank you all for joining us. Chairman Johnson. Thank you, Senator Carper. I do not know about your Beagles, but my Beagle did not realize he was a dog. He was just a younger brother. He actually sat up in a chair. Senator Carper. I thought one of these dogs was going to try to get in that chair over there and reach the mic. But it did not happen. [Laughter.] Chairman Johnson. It is the tradition of this Committee to swear in witnesses, so if you will all rise and raise your right hand. Do you swear the testimony you will give before this Committee will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you, God? Ms. Hutchinson. I do. Mr. Montes. I do. Ms. Grover. I do. Ms. Otto. I do. Chairman Johnson. Please be seated. Let us start with testimony. We are hoping for at least one or two additional Members to come before we do the demonstration, but if they do not, I also want to make sure we get the dogs before they get restless. We may interrupt in between witnesses. Our first witness is Kimberly Hutchinson. Ms. Hutchinson is the Deputy Assistant Administrator for the Office of Training and Development at the Transportation Security Administration. In her capacity, she oversees TSA's technical and leadership training, workforce development, and engagement programs. Ms. Hutchinson. TESTIMONY OF KIMBERLY S. HUTCHINSON,\1\ DEPUTY ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR, OFFICE OF TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT, TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY Ms. Hutchinson. Thank you, sir. Chairman Johnson, Ranking Member Carper, and Members of the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify regarding TSA's canine training program. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared joint statement of Ms. Hutchinson and Mr. Montes appears in the Appendix on page 31. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- TSA procures, trains, and deploys both TSA-led and State and local law enforcement-led canine teams to secure our Nation's transportation systems. Congress has recognized the value of TSA's canine program through its continued support and funding. It is currently the largest explosives detection canine program in DHS and the second largest in the Federal Government, with 997 funded canine teams currently stationed at more than 100 of our Nation's airports, mass transit, and cargo environments. The success of TSA's canine program is a prime example of Federal, State, and local government entities working together. Given the security value of explosive detection canines, TSA must ensure a reliable and adequate supply of canines. TSA procures canines primarily through an Interagency Service Agreement with the Department of Defense, which supplies TSA with approximately 230 canines each year. TSA partners with the Department of Defense (DOD) during the canine selection and evaluation process on both State-side vendors and overseas buying trips, ensuring TSA's needs are met. In addition to procuring canines through DOD, TSA is exploring procurement of both trained and untrained canines from qualified private sector businesses. TSA's goal is to procure an additional 20 trained passenger screening canines and 20 untrained canines suitable for passenger screening in fiscal year 2016 through this new procurement initiative. Once TSA procures a canine, the agency pairs it with a Federal, State, or local handler to be trained to operate in the aviation, multimodal, maritime, mass transit, or cargo environments. The majority of canine teams working in the aviation environment are comprised of a canine and a State or local law enforcement officer. For these teams, TSA provides and trains the dog, trains the handler, provides training aids and explosive storage magazines, and conducts annual onsite evaluations of these canines. TSA partially reimburses each participating agency for operational costs associated with maintaining the teams, and in return, the law enforcement agencies agree to use the canines in their assigned environment for at least 80 percent of the handler's duty time. In addition to State and local law enforcement-led teams, TSA Inspectors lead 322 canine teams, including all of our passenger screening canine teams, which are specifically trained to detect explosives' odor on passengers in the checkpoint environment, in addition to their conventional explosives detection role. TSA and State and local law enforcement handlers travel from across the country to TSA's Canine Training Center (CTC), located on Lackland Air Force Base down in San Antonio, Texas, to be paired with a canine and complete training. The canine teams learn explosives detection in a very intense training environment, and teams are trained to detect a variety of explosives based on intelligence data and emerging threats. In fact, tomorrow TSA will hold a ribbon-cutting ceremony for a new 25,000-square-foot facility at the Training Center with seven new classrooms, a 100-seat auditorium, and administrative space. Approximately 30 days after graduating from the training program and returning to its duty station, each canine team undergoes an assessment to ensure operational proficiency in that environment. Upon successful completion of the assessment, canine teams are then evaluated on an annual basis under the most stringent of applicable certification standards. TSA allocates canine teams to specific cities and airports utilizing risk-based criteria. Passenger screening canine teams are critical to TSA's risk-based security efforts and are deployed to operate during peak periods at 40 of our Nation's largest airports, where they have the opportunity to screen tens of thousands of passengers every day. TSA is working to train and certify all of its 322 canine teams in both passenger screening and traditional explosive detection screening by the end of fiscal year 2017. In addition to deployments at passenger screening checkpoints, TSA and law enforcement-led teams conduct a variety of search and high visibility activities that address potential threats in the transportation domain, including Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response (VIPR) operations. The Government Accountability Office, DHS Inspector General (IG), and other independent testers have proven canine teams to be one of the most effective means of detecting explosives Canine teams are critical to TSA's focus on security effectiveness, and TSA continues to develop its canine training program to maximize its contributions to transportation security. Last, I would like to thank all of the hardworking men and women canine handlers across the Nation's transportation system who keep us safe every day, as well as the very dedicated staff that support the program and train our canines down in Lackland. Thank you for the opportunity to discuss this important program, and I look forward to your questions. Chairman Johnson. Thank you, Ms. Hutchinson. Our next witness is Damian Montes. Mr. Montes is the Director of the Canine Program at U.S. Customs and Border Protection. Mr. Montes started his career in the United States Marine Corps (USMC). Subsequently, he graduated from the Department of Defense Military Working Dog Handler Course and joined CBP. He is a former handler. Mr. Montes. TESTIMONY OF DAMIAN MONTES,\1\ DIRECTOR, CANINE TRAINING PROGRAM, OFFICE OF TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT, U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY; ACCOMPANIED BY ROBERT LUKASON AND KEITH BARKER Mr. Montes. Good morning, Chairman Johnson and Ranking Member Carper. Thank you for the opportunity to appear today and talk about the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Canine Training Program. I am the Director of the CBP Canine Training Program and am responsible for the administrative and operational oversight of our two Canine Training and Delivery Centers, one located in Front Royal, Virginia, and the other in El Paso, Texas. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared joint statement of Mr. Montes and Ms. Hutchinson appears in the Appendix on page 31. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The CBP Canine Program is the fusion of two legacy training facilities: the legacy U.S. Customs Canine Enforcement Training Center and the U.S. Border Patrol National Canine Facility. The merger of these two training entities afforded the CBP Canine Training Program to build on decades of established expertise in law enforcement canine training and to capitalize on best practices. The CBP Canine Training Centers are where CBP workers, canines, handlers, and instructors receive classroom and practical training and the canine discipline utilized to support the critical mission of detecting and addressing cross- border illicit activities, including gun and currency smuggling, narcotics smuggling, human trafficking and smuggling, and illegal immigration. The CBP Canine Training Program delivers several courses for handlers and instructors to support the mission in multiple operational environments. These courses include concealed human and narcotic detection, currency and firearms detection, human remains/cadaver detection, tracking and trailing, search and rescue, patrol, and recertification instruction course. Our training cadre is comprised of experienced CBP law enforcement officers and agents, also know as course developer instructors, who come to us from existing field canine units and serve a 3-to 5-year instructor detail. I must highlight the significance of having such subject matter experts with recent and relative field experience deliver canine training and instruction to the next generation of canines, handles, and instructors. The value they contribute to the CBP Canine Training Program's mission is immeasurable. Furthermore, recruiting experienced canine instructors from within the ranks of CBP ensures a continuity of expertise and availability of training opportunities. The course developer instructors who work at our training centers bring with them not only the passion of being a canine handler, but being part of a specialized unit that provides a unique and valuable capability to CBP's front-line law enforcement mission. But I would be remiss not to mention our support staff--our veterinarians, our animal health technicians, our animal caretakers, our maintenance support personnel, and our mission support admin personnel, who play an integral part in ensuring the effectiveness and the delivery of our training. The CBP Canine Training Program can be credited with training some of the best canine teams that work at any of our international border crossings, international airports, and vast open areas of our border. The CBP canine officers and agents who work with the CBP Canine Training Program have also assisted in capacity-building initiatives with the Office of International Affairs and developing and delivering canine training for our international partners. Furthermore, our training centers are available to Federal, State, and local law enforcement agencies wanting to receive formal training and certification in any of the canine training disciplines we deliver. The canine team is an invaluable asset to the operational border and port environments, regardless of the presence of other detection technologies, providing an unmatched law enforcement capability to address the ever changing challenges and threats. Over the past 3 years, the CBP Canine Training Program, under the oversight of the Office of Training and Development, has ensured that CBP canine training centers' academic curriculum, practical applications, evaluations, certification, and overall training provides the standard and fidelity that meets the CBP operational needs and requirements. As border conditions and enforcement environments have ever changed over the past 30 years or more, CBP's law enforcement canine teams have remained constant, reliable, invaluable assets to our Nation's security. Each and every day they demonstrate and validate their importance through numerous seizures and detections. I am honored to be part of the CBP Canine Program and appreciate the opportunity to share our efforts today, and I am welcome to answer any questions. Chairman Johnson. Thank you, Director Montes. Our next witness is Jennifer Grover. Director Grover is the Director in the Homeland Security and Justice Team at the U.S. Government Accountability Office. In this position, she oversees GAO's reviews of TSA programs and operations. Director Grover. TESTIMONY OF JENNIFER GROVER,\1\ DIRECTOR, HOMELAND SECURITY AND JUSTICE, U.S. GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE Ms. Grover. Good morning, Chairman Johnson, Ranking Member Carper. Thank you for the opportunity to discuss TSA's implementation of their canine program. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Ms. Grover appears in the Appendix on page 43. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- TSA has funding for 997 canine teams. They include conventional canines, which are trained to detect explosives in stationary objects such as vehicles and baggage, and passenger screening canines (PSCs), which receive extra training to detect explosives carried by a person. When fully deployed, TSA canines will be paired with about 675 law enforcement handlers and 322 TSA handlers. Following GAO's 2013 report and recommendations, TSA made significant improvements to its canine program. First, TSA has enhanced its use of data to monitor program performance. As an example, field canine coordinators now regularly analyze the covert testing data to determine the root causes of team failures so that they can be addressed. Second, TSA demonstrated that passenger screening canine teams reliably identify explosives and determined that they should be placed at the passenger checkpoint queues to have the greatest impact. And, third, TSA has deployed PSC teams to the highest-risk airports. One important issue remains for TSA's consideration based on our prior work. When TSA conducted its initial effectiveness assessment of these specialized passenger screening canines, it also carried out one of the search exercises with three conventional canine teams. So those are the teams that do not receive the specialized training. The results suggested that the conventional canines might be as effective as the canines with the PSC training at detecting explosives on people under some scenarios. We recommended that TSA should test whether the passenger screening canines provide an enhanced security benefit relative to the conventional canines and, thus, whether the cost of that additional training is warranted. TSA officials told us that they did not plan to carry out the assessment, citing concerns about the temperament of some of the conventionally trained canines and the potential liability risk to the agency if it operated conventional canines in a passenger screening environment for which they had not been trained. We respect TSA's concerns on these issues and encourage TSA to consider multiple options for going forward with this testing. Some conventional canines are suitable breeds, initial assessments could take place in a testing environment with role players instead of actual passengers, and conventionally trained canines could be trained to operate at the checkpoint. We continue to believe that this assessment is warranted. If the results show that conventional canines are equally as effective as passenger screening canines, then TSA could save resources currently spent on the specialized training. Regarding the magnitude of the potential savings, in our 2013 study the difference in TSA's startup costs between the passenger screening and the conventional canines was $19,000 per canine. TSA's update for this hearing indicates that the difference in startup costs has shrunk to $5,000 per canine, which clearly reduces the potential for savings. Since TSA plans to expand its PSC training to all 322 canines with TSA handlers, based on TSA's numbers the savings could still be as much as $1.5 million each time the full set of TSA-led canines is retired and placed. That is a very small fraction of TSA's annual spending for the canine program, but still represents a potential opportunity for TSA to be more efficient with its limited resources. Finally, whether or not the extra PSC training turns out to make a difference, TSA could realize additional savings if some of the canines were paired with law enforcement handlers instead of TSA handlers. Since TSA covers salary, benefits, and vehicle expenses for its own handlers, the annual cost to TSA for a TSA-led team is $100,000 more than a team led by a law enforcement officer. In 2013, TSA officials told us that they were considering this approach, but to this point, TSA has not yet paired passenger screening canines with law enforcement handlers. Chairman Johnson, Ranking Member Carper, thank you for the opportunity to testify, and I look forward to your questions. Chairman Johnson. Thank you, Director Grover. Our final witness is Dr. Cynthia Otto. Dr. Otto is the founder and executive director for the Penn Vet Working Center at the University of Pennsylvania. Her research focuses on canine health and behavior. Dr. Otto has also been involved with search and rescue dogs and disaster response as a member of the Pennsylvania Urban Search and Rescue Task Force, including deployments for Hurricane Katrina and during 9/11. Dr. Otto. TESTIMONY OF CYNTHIA M. OTTO, D.V.M., PH.D.,\1\ EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, PENN VET WORKING DOG CENTER, UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA; ACCOMPANIED BY JERRY Dr. Otto. Thank you and good morning, Chairman Johnson and Ranking Member Carper. It is a pleasure to be here. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ The prepared statement of Dr. Otto appears in the Appendix on page 58. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would like to introduce one of our dogs from the program. He is a 10\1/2\-week-old German Shepherd, born in Kansas. He is donated to our program, and his name is Jerry. And like all of the dogs donated to our program, he is named after one of the dogs that worked at the site after 9/11. He is being handled by one of our veterinary students from Penn Vet, Meghan Ramos. You will be able to meet him after the hearing and learn more about his future career. The Penn Vet Working Dog Center is a not-for-profit research and development center for detection dogs. Our program was developed based on our experience with a wide variety of organizations, including DOD, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), CBP, TSA, police canine departments, the Seeing Eye, Puppies Behind Bars, and even pet dog training. Our scope of work focuses on the genetic, environmental, behavioral, and physical characteristics that lead to successful detection performance. Since dogs enter our program at 8 weeks of age, our unique emphasis includes the impact of early development in enhancing the career success of these dogs. Our training philosophy is rooted in positive reinforcement and enhancing the dog's genetic potential. Dogs in our program attend school 5 days a week to learn job skills, but live with foster families nights and weekends to learn life skills. At the Penn Vet Working Dog Center, we operate based on a hypothesis-driven method rather than a belief system. Consistent with the theme of our upcoming working dog conference, Working Dogs 360, a multidisciplinary approach, we welcome ideas from all sectors. We then evaluate and collect data to test these hypotheses and determine what works best for each dog, each discipline, and each program. We embrace the opportunities that arise when things do not go as planned, which is often. We actually find that some of these opportunities are the most valuable learning experiences that we have, and in the case of the dogs, we call it ``a training opportunity.'' From this perspective, the key points that I would like to highlight for the Committee are: one, that dogs have great value in preserving national security; and, two, there are strategies that as a Nation on which we can come together and will facilitate the success of the dogs in this vital mission. I think the first fact that is undisputed is that the ability of dogs to smell and identify minute quantities of odor far exceeds that of humans and most machines. The other universal fact across agencies is that one of the biggest challenges to canine programs is the availability of dogs that have the physical and behavioral characteristics necessary to perform the tasks needed. One of the major reasons for the shortage of quality dogs is that we rely heavily on procurement of dogs from other countries. By outsourcing our national security requirements, we give up control of the type of dogs, the health of the dogs, and the early training of the dogs. We also are at risk for supply interruption due to politics, disaster, or disease. Given that we know many of the desirable traits are controlled by genetics and that continuous improvements can be made through selective breeding, letting these decisions be made by organizations that do not have our best national interests foremost we are, again, putting ourselves at risk. The research in our program and others has shown that factors during development of dogs have an important impact on behavior and health, including the length of their working careers. Again, without having control or input over this aspect of the dog's lives increases the risk of shortened working life or failed careers. So how do we best leverage the scientific knowledge in genetics, development, behavior, and health? To us, a national breeding program is a priority. The critical features of a programmatic success include both superior dog performance and sound economics. The goal is to create a cooperative that provides dogs to all of the programs that support national security. To achieve this, all organizations need to communicate and work together to identify the genetic and behavioral characteristics of the dogs that meet their requirements. So we feel that this would represent a Center of Excellence, which is classic in homeland security. So I would like to thank you for your attention and welcome any questions. Chairman Johnson. Well, thank you, Dr. Otto. We are expecting three more members, I am told, within 5 minutes, but that is Senate time. I want to go back to you, Dr. Otto, because I want to get some sense of how many trained dogs are utilized in the United States for seeing eye purposes, other specialized purposes, as well as law enforcement. Do you have any feel for the total number of specialized trained dogs? Dr. Otto. So the specialized trained dogs is sort of an open question. There are so many new areas, particularly if we are talking in the service dog field, where we are talking about seeing eye, the autism support dogs, and other dogs. Through the Scientific Working Group on Dog and Orthogonal detector Guidelines (SWGDOG), I know that they were estimating somewhere between 40,000 and 80,000 dogs used, and remembering that dogs, when they are employed, they have a fixed life span, and so they are retiring at a regular rate. And even if we can improve their working life by a year, we are going to impact the cost-effectiveness. Chairman Johnson. Is that about 8 to 9 years? Is that kind of on average? Dr. Otto. Eight to nine is pretty typical. Now, a lot of dogs, some organizations will retire dogs at 9 years of age. This is often fixed--and most dogs do not start until they are about 2. So they may have as short a career as 7 and even less, depending. Chairman Johnson. But service dogs are really completely different from the standpoint of training and their specialty, correct? Dr. Otto. Absolutely. The service dogs have taught us a lot about the selective breeding. They have taught us a lot about how to train some of these dogs. But they are very different dogs. They are kind of the opposite end of the spectrum from the high-energy, hunting-driven dogs that we are looking at. Chairman Johnson. And we breed those here in the United States. Dr. Otto. Correct. Most of the service dog programs do have their own breeding programs. The Seeing Eye, Canine Companions for Independence, they have really large breeding programs. Chairman Johnson. Now, between TSA and CBP, I have about 2,500 canine units. Is that pretty accurate, about 1,000 with the TSA and about 1,400, 1,500 in CBP? Mr. Montes. Yes, sir. Chairman Johnson. Do you have any idea in terms of how many other specialized units, canine units, in just conventional law enforcement? Mr. Montes. No. At this time I do not, sir. Chairman Johnson. OK. I want to get back to that. Do we have another member coming? OK. This is it. As long as we have a quorum for our demonstration, let us proceed with that. And I think we are going to start with TSA, and, Ms. Hutchinson, can you describe what we are going to see in terms of this demonstration? Ms. Hutchinson. Absolutely. Yes, so we have Rriverso, our canine, our Labrador out of Reagan Airport (DCA) here, and his handler, Doug Timberlake. And what we are going to try to simulate here it is a TSA checkpoint. So, essentially, your staff are passengers, and what you are going to see is the passengers are going to come through. There is one passenger that has a training aid explosive on them, and here is Rriverso and Doug. [Demonstrations begin.] So what you will see Doug doing is giving some search gestures to Rriverso here as the passengers come through, and then you will see very quickly what passenger has that live explosive on them. Chairman Johnson. Are the passengers coming? Ms. Hutchinson. I think they are here. Chairman Johnson. OK. Ms. Hutchinson. OK. So we have our passengers coming through the checkpoint here. We are going to see Rriverso start to work, use his nose. And there you go. So if you noticed, he locked in on the passenger with the briefcase very quickly, and then he was immediately rewarded with his tennis ball, which is his reward of choice. Chairman Johnson. And the briefcase had what in it? Ms. Hutchinson. It had an explosive. Chairman Johnson. OK. How many times is that wrapped? Ms. Hutchinson. It is safe. Chairman Johnson. I will move into that in other questions, because that is what amazed me at the University of Pennsylvania is how it just almost impossible to wrap these things enough. It is impossible. OK. Our next one, Director Montes, can you kind of describe what we are going to be seeing in this next demonstration? [Demonstration begins.] Mr. Montes. Yes, this is Ms. Jones and her canine, Hudson. So Canine Hudson is trained to find five different types of items. In the airport environment, they are going to be screening in the passenger environment for any type of illegal agricultural products. Chairman Johnson. And you have planted some illegal agricultural products in the hearing room somewhere? Mr. Montes. Yes, we did. Chairman Johnson. I am a real rule follower. Mr. Montes. Now, so she responded. She sat down. Chairman Johnson. So she has located it. Mr. Montes. Yes. If you look right over the edge there, you can see it. And then what they have is an apple. Chairman Johnson. It looks harmless enough. [Laughter.] So that was an agricultural product. Then we have another demonstration of a different type of---- Mr. Montes. Yes, we do. We have the currency/firearms dog coming in. This is Mr. Dowling and his canine, Nicky. As well, we will have some of your staffers--they will have a training aid planted on them, currency, and as soon as they come in, he will be able to screen them and identify which one is the one that is carrying the currency, the training aid. [Demonstration begins.] So as the passengers come through, Mr. Dowling will start screening them with the canine, Nicky. [Pause.] And so once he identifies that there is something there that should not be there--i.e., the contraband--he is going to go ahead and respond. And now he is going to get his toy as a reward, and the positive indication. So what he gave him right now is a PVC pipe. Chairman Johnson. I guess whatever works. Mr. Montes. Yes. Chairman Johnson. Well, thank you. Thank you very much. I would have thought he would have responded to that blue suit, but that shows you how well trained they are. Again, thank you. I will say, as impressive as that demonstration is, going to the University of Pennsylvania and seeing them really on the job, it is dramatically more impressive, I mean, what they are able to do. Let us pick up where we left off. Thank you, Senator. I want to get back to actually supplying the chain and how many dogs we really would like to have and how many we could really employ. So, again, we are talking about within TSA and CBP about 2,500 canine units now. How many would you like to have? Is that kind of adequate for the task? Or could we utilize a lot more? Let us start with you, Director Montes. Mr. Montes. I will start with a question. So that would be an operational requirement to determine both components based on their needs of the service to identify what would be their optimal number as far as what would assist their multilayer approach as far as enforcement operations. On our side of the fence, as far as the training operations, our requirement is to be able to develop the capacity and capability to deliver those dogs once those demands and needs and requirements are addressed. Chairman Johnson. But do you get a sense, working with the other folks in your agency, that there is a greater demand? Is there always demand for what you are trying to do? Or, again, there may not be demand because we just do not have the budget for it. Mr. Montes. So the current demand as it stands right now, you have the operational floors for the Office of Border Patrol, which is 1,113, and as well as for the Office of Field Operations, which currently right now is 481. And so those numbers are still vacancies in the field that we are still trying to go ahead and backfill those positions. So we have not reach that floor yet, so it would pretty much determine on the components to determine how much higher they would want to go after all those positions are filled. Chairman Johnson. So you are saying you are 481 short right now? Mr. Montes. No, sir. Those are the positions. Chairman Johnson. Oh, OK. How many short are you? Mr. Montes. So 25 positions right now for the Office of Field Operations and 300 for the Office of Border Patrol. Chairman Johnson. So a pretty good shortage. Ms. Hutchinson, do you have a sense in terms of TSA, if you could have everything you would want to provide the security that we are really looking for in this country, what is your sense? Ms. Hutchinson. I think that is sort of the $1 million question. I think today we have 997 teams throughout the Nation, so what we have been doing within that group of teams that are currently funded is figuring out how we can really maximize them. So as you saw that PSC capability, we just rolled that out in 2011, so 5 years ago, which is fairly recent for this new concept of operations (CONOPS). So what we are sort of learning over time is how to best utilize their time screening passengers, so really deploying them at those peak periods. So we are really trying to maximize with what we have. I think moving forward I certainly see we would have more canines as part of the security. Chairman Johnson. But of the 997, it looks like only 300 are doing passenger screening, and others are deployed with other local law enforcement agencies. What are they doing, also transportation? So they are doing trains and bus stations? Is it all transportation-related? Ms. Hutchinson. That is right. They service all the modes. So you would see them, potentially on Amtrak or on buses, transit, yes. So they are covering everything, and many of them are also deployed in aviation. But to your question earlier about the supply, we lose about 13 percent of our dogs a year, so about 150 either retire for aging out or physical things. So we need to buy about 230 a year just to sustain the current operations, and we have found a good supply, if you will, of the dogs that we need. However, we are going through this process of trying to procure more dogs domestically, so if we did have a surge, we would be able to buy maybe quicker and bring on dogs into the program more quickly. Chairman Johnson. Now, the ones that are not used for passenger screening in airports, those are being handled by local law enforcement officials then? So you are supplying the local agencies? Ms. Hutchinson. That is correct. We train the dogs and the handlers. We work in partnership with them today, yes. If we have an unattended bag as an example, we would call law enforcement for resolving that. Chairman Johnson. So, Dr. Otto, we obviously breed a lot of dogs in this country, and what is the secret sauce in terms of the European breeders that we are only going there? What is preventing us from breeding them here in the United States? Dr. Otto. I think it is tradition, and I think it is also why the dogs are being bred in this country. In Eastern Europe, which is the major source of most of our working dogs, they have a long history of breeding dogs for work, whether it is specifically for work or even competitions that are work- related. In this country we tend to breed dogs for pets and for show, and those are not the same kinds of dogs that we need for this kind of work. So in order to breed dogs in this country for this kind of work, we really have to look at what are we selecting. A lot of our Labradors are coming from hunting lines, so that is at least a domestic resource. But even so, they are breeding for different reasons, and so we are lucky when we get some of these dogs that are very successful, but we need to think about what are our goals, physically, behaviorally, that support the tasks that these dogs are doing. And it is not always what the breeders who are competing or hunting with their dogs are breeding for. So identifying those traits, identifying if they are heritable so that we can selectively improve the physical and behavioral characteristics of the dogs. Chairman Johnson. OK. Well, I will pick up on this in the next round. Senator Carper. Senator Carper. First, a couple lighthearted questions. I noted that the dogs got a reward for their search efforts. One dog's reward was a tennis ball, and another dog's reward was a piece of PVC pipe. What is the role and the importance of the reward? How are they selected? And do dogs react if they have the wrong reward or no reward? I presume they act differently. Who chooses the reward? Is it good for a lifetime? Give us a little bit of-- just real quickly on that. Mr. Montes. Absolutely. So our primary reward is a toy. It is toy-driven prey drive for the canines. So I either have a rubber pipe, a PVC pipe. It depends on what the dog really enjoys to work for, because that is his paycheck at the end of the day. So if there is a canine that, for example, uses a PVC pipe which he enjoys at this point, but at some point in training decides, hey, I like the rubber better than the other one, then it would transition. The idea is we want the canine to be able to work, and we want to be able to feed that drive toward that reward so that canine continually produces over the course of his service life. Senator Carper. All right. How many years, on average, do these dogs serve? Mr. Montes. So our canines primarily are between 7 and 9 years old. Senator Carper. And what is the average life span of a dog that does this kind of work? Mr. Montes. So the average lifetime depends on the canine, sir. Currently, we have some dogs that are still in service at 11 years old. Obviously, we want to make sure that we have a quality of life for our canines. We make high demands from our canines in the field, so we want to make sure we have a process in place to retire them at a suitable age so they have a quality retired life after. So their lifetime really depends on the individual canine, sir. Senator Carper. OK. There are other agencies that have canine programs in the Department. For example, I think just within DHS, you have FEMA where they use canine teams to conduct search and rescue operations. The Federal Protective Service I think deploys dogs to sweep Federal buildings looking for explosives. I do not know who I should ask this of. We will start with you, Damian, but could you just describe for us, if you could, any departmentwide efforts within DHS to share best practices and to find efficiencies in order to improve the respective programs? Mr. Montes. Sure. I have been in this position for the last 2\1/2\ years, and since I have been in this position, we have conducted numerous outreach on how to improve our program or share best practices with others. We have met with TSA. We have also met with Ms. Otto on different occasions to identify ways that we have in our program that we can improve on. We have also visited Lackland Air Force Base, DOD, because at the end of the day everybody has and is still and continually evolves their canine training practices. As far as shared tactics or shared facilities, we do extend our training availability to local, Federal, and State law enforcement agencies. So we are constantly working with them as well to either start a program or to advance or evolve their current program in existence. Senator Carper. All right. Thank you. I was struck, Dr. Otto, by your testimony where you mentioned that many of the errors made by canine teams are not the errors made by the dog but by the human handler. What are the requirements and limitations of a good human handler? And how well are we training that half of the canine team? Dr. Otto. So I think that is a really great point, that it is a team, and the dog---- Senator Carper. Would you say that again? Dr. Otto. The dog and the handler are a team. Senator Carper. No, I am just kidding. Not many of our witnesses say that, do they, Mr. Chairman? [Laughter.] Dr. Otto. That is a great point. It is a very good point. Excellent points. Senator Carper. Thank you. Dr. Otto. So the team is really critical, and the dog, a lot of times we actually get in the way of the dog. And it really is something that we have to be paying very close attention to. When you have a team that works in synchrony, it is kind of like watching dancers, because they are so good at reading each other, and that is our goal. And I think a lot of times we do focus on the dog side of it, and we are not paying as much attention to training the handler. In our program we try to help our dogs work as independently as possible, and I think that is a lot of the goals here, too, especially with the passenger screening canines, that they really do need to work more independently. So I think those are goals that most organizations are working toward, but I think we still have a ways to go in finding our best handlers, training our handlers in the best way possible and making sure that the team is working well together. Senator Carper. OK. Thank you. Another question, and this might be for you, Ms. Hutchinson. It is a question about metrics. What metrics, if any, exist to indicate that the passenger screening canine training provides an added security benefit in return for the additional costs? And how was the passenger screening canine certification standard developed? Ms. Hutchinson. So we have been developing sort of the standard in the last 5 years, and really it is a training and certification standard. So in terms of metrics, the reason we know that these dogs are highly effective is very high evaluation rate on an annual basis by a third party. Science and Technology (S&T) helps us, another DHS Directorate, helps us in the evaluation process. We go in once a year to every airport and test these dogs on all of the odors to make sure they are proficient, and then just locally. A dog like Rriverso, he has to certify every 45 days on all of those odors, and if he does not, he comes out of the operation and gets retrained, if you will. So it is mostly just those evaluations, during the year, and then, of course, certification at the end of the year. Senator Carper. OK. Thanks. And if I could, Ms. Grover, in your testimony, you talked about some of the recommendations maybe the GAO has made to improve these programs. Would you just mention again--I think you did, but maybe a recommendation or two that has not been fully implemented, has not been accepted? Let us just talk about that for a minute. Ms. Grover. Sure. TSA has done a terrific job addressing the vast majority of our recommendations, and we completely agree that robust data exists to show that the passenger screening canines are effective at detecting explosives. There is a range. The data show that there are some airports and some teams that do not do as well as others, and so hopefully TSA will follow-up on that information and make sure that they are providing support to the teams that need it so that they can continue to improve. But the question that remains for GAO is whether or not it is the extra-specialized passenger screening training that makes the PSC canines effective or whether they could do just as well with the conventional training that all the canines receive, what the regular law enforcement handlers and their canines receive as well. Senator Carper. OK. My time has expired. As the Chairman mentioned earlier, we all serve on a bunch of different committees and subcommittees, and a number of those are in sessions right now. I am going to slip out and go to one to learn a little bit more about implementing the Trans-Pacific Trade Partnership in the Finance Committee. So I just want to say thank you again, Mr. Chairman, for pulling this all together. Thanks especially to Rriverso, to Hudson, and to Nicky, and their handlers, and to each of you who vocalized and verbalized on behalf of our canine friends. Thank you so much. Chairman Johnson. Thank you, Senator Carper. Let me go back to the metrics, because in our briefing here we did--certainly one metric is apprehensions of drugs, which is probably one of the most successful areas--almost 40,000 apprehensions last year nationwide. I think it was last year-- yes, fiscal year 2015. Are there similar--first of all, do we have instances in TSA where we have detected bombs? Have we thwarted any attacks? Or have we just been very fortunate that we have not had those? Ms. Hutchinson. Yes, as far as we know, we have not had a terrorist come through a checkpoint with an explosive to be detected. So to your point, it is hard to measure the deterrence factor of having a dog at a checkpoint or anywhere else. So that is difficult for us. Chairman Johnson. Dr. Otto, can you talk about the specialized nature of the different smells, the different odors, and what that means from the standpoint of training? Dr. Otto. So there are a number of different odors, but the concept is all kind of the same on how we are going to train them. In our program we train our dogs with foundation work where they learn how to search. They do not necessarily learn a specific odor. And then depending on their physical characteristics and their behavioral characteristics, we may put them into different careers. So dogs that are searching for humans in disaster settings are searching for a really large amount of odor associated with that person. And those are dogs that are going to be wide- ranging and really looking for odor. We also have a medical detection program where we have trained dogs to identify the odor associated with ovarian cancer in blood samples. That is a drop of blood. It is a very minute odor, and the dogs that work in that field are very meticulous and very thorough and work in a controlled environment. So those are kind of the two ends of the spectrum, and then identifying the environments that you would want, the passenger screening environment is going to be probably more similar to our search and rescue environment; whereas, maybe the more traditional screening of suitcases we might get a little bit closer to what we are dealing with the ovarian cancer detection, but usually the amount of odor is still going to be much, much greater than what we would see in something like the medical detection. Is that what you were asking? Chairman Johnson. Yes. Let us also talk about--because we talked a little bit about breeding capacity. To me that just seems like something we could overcome pretty quickly. There seems to be enough demand for these things, and we should know how to breed, so it is a matter of just getting the right ones. Let us talk about training capacity. Obviously, you have a certain approach to training which differs from other centers. Do we have a capacity shortage from the standpoint of training? And then ongoing training, too, you talked about a team and how important it is that we these dogs are trained and the handlers actually conduct that training on an ongoing basis, correct? Dr. Otto. Well, I can talk about the ongoing training that is necessary based on what SWGDOG has recommended as national guidelines and what the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Organization of Scientific Area Committees (OSAC) and the Committee on Dogs and Sensors recommends for ongoing training, 16 hours a month of ongoing training for the canine handler teams. But most of what we are doing, we are not really working with those graduate dogs, so I think I probably would defer to CBP or TSA to address some of those issues. Chairman Johnson. OK. Please. Mr. Montes. I am sorry, sir. Can you please repeat the question? Chairman Johnson. Really just talking about the ongoing training for the dogs, how the handlers--it is a responsibility. That is certainly what I heard from the University of Pennsylvania. This is not something you train the dog for a couple weeks or a couple months and then they are trained. You have to continually update that on a continuous basis, so if you can just kind of speak to that. Mr. Montes. Absolutely. So we all know ground zero is at the training centers. Our canines come in, and they go anywhere from a 14-week course to a 12-week to a 10-week course, 7 or 5. Depending on the variances of we are going to train our handlers, we talk about the team. So the canine itself, it is very important when we start the canine training with the canine that we determine what capacity that dog is going to be working in in the field, and that is based on our initial prior selection test. Chairman Johnson. Now, let me ask, are those dogs pre- trained already and then you are just specifically training them for something? Or are you doing the entire training yourself? Mr. Montes. We do the entire training ourselves. What we want to do is we want to identify the canine based on its innate drives and capabilities, because all of our operational environments are very different. So depending on the operational environment, we want to be able to pair that dog in a training center to the operational request. For example, if you have a small border environment, Naco, Arizona, or you have a large border environment, San Isidro, Arizona, we want to make sure that we pair that dog in that environment so to have a successful working life. And that comes with the training that we develop at the training centers, the pairing with that handler coming from that environment, and essentially setting that dog up for success in the field. That is where it starts, at the training center. And then, of course, you have the continuing training that goes on with our subject matter experts, our instructors in the field. So it is more of a lateral handoff which progresses that canine throughout its career. Chairman Johnson. Ms. Hutchinson, do you have anything to add to that? Ms. Hutchinson. So it is slightly different on the TSA side of the house. So our canines, the explosive detection canines, which are all of our teams, are trained in a basic 15-week course. The passenger screening canines have an additional 10 weeks because it is a very different search capability. As you saw, it is not a static bag. It is somebody who is moving, and it is a person. So they have to see that person as a search possibility. And then after we basically imprint all of our dogs on the odors, we pair that dog with a handler for 10 to 12 weeks to figure out how to search people. One of the things we are trying to do on the training side is to be more efficient and sort of looking at the science with our Science & Technology and training on sort of families of odors, because it does take a long time to train these dogs because it is such a high-stakes business. So how can we look at sort of rather than imprinting odor by odor, looking at families of odors? So we are trying to compress those timelines to be able to deploy dogs faster, but it is a hard job. We have to train to that job. Chairman Johnson. Director Grover, you were talking about team failures. Can you just describe that in greater detail, what you are talking about there? Just describe what you are talking about. Ms. Grover. Well, it would just be an opportunity--it would be a circumstance when a canine team missed an explosive aid during either the annual certification or as part of TSA's cycle assessments where they are really paying great attention to all of the PSC teams to ensure that they are performing well and enhancing their performance. So the last data that GAO reviewed on this did show significant variation between the teams at the top-performing airports and the lower-performing airports, and that could be just because some teams had a bad day or two at the time of the testing, or it could be a longer-term issue. The details of the failure rates are Sensitive Security Information (SSI), so we can share them with your staff but not in a public environment. And TSA does have the data so that they can followup on that. Chairman Johnson. Dr. Otto, do you have any opinions of why you have team failures? Would it be the handlers not doing the ongoing training, kind of keeping the dog current and themselves current? Could you just kind of speak to that? Dr. Otto. I think there are a number of different things that can influence it. What we looked at is, when are our dogs at their peak, when are they doing best? I think, this is another opportunity where we can help the dogs to do their jobs without as much handler influence. The more independent that the dogs are, the less chance of maybe the handler having a bad day, the dog having a bad day, either one of them; that we can really help that move forward. I do think that there are a combination of environmental aspects that are going to affect it, but we definitely know in these teams that there is an interaction between the handler and the dog. So, paying attention to that. We have also looked at some of the medical aspects that may affect a dog's ability to detect odor, and happily, we do not have obvious problems in a lot of the medications that we have been testing. But there are some medications that can actually decrease the odor detection ability of a dog. Chairman Johnson. You are saying medications the dogs might---- Ms. Otto. Dogs' medications. Chairman Johnson. OK. And are there different breeds that are better at different things? Ms. Otto. I think there are different personalities within breeds that are better at different things. Again, if we go to our cancer detection, which is a very specialized area, we have a German Shepherd, a Labrador, and a Springer Spaniel. And in our search and rescue dogs, we have a spectrum of breeds as well, and it is so much more the personality within the breed. I think when we are really selecting these dogs that have the genetic capacity for odor detection, it is then how does that dog's personality interact with its genetics. Chairman Johnson. Ms. Grover, you were talking about the added value of the specialized training for the passenger screening versus just conventional training. The bottom line, there is going to have to be some specialized training because they are dealing with passengers as opposed to down the bowels of the airport just going through bags, correct? Ms. Grover. Probably, yes. But GAO is an evidence-based organization, and so we would always want to make sure that TSA has good evidence to support that all of these additional weeks of training are necessary to get the outcomes. No need to spend the taxpayer dollars---- Chairman Johnson. And we appreciate that, trust me. Ms. Grover. Right--unless it is necessary. And that data is not all in place yet. Chairman Johnson. OK. Being an accountant, I like evidence and I like metrics. Let me just close it out to both TSA and CBP. I really do want somebody within your organization providing written responses to questions for the record about, what is the desired level of teams here. My guess is you would all agree that they can be very effective, correct? And we really do need to take a hard look at--I do not want to be penny-wise and pound-foolish here. Just one instance of somebody getting through could be pretty harmful to our economy. So what I see, the 1,000 canine units within TSA, the 1,400--it costs money, but it is in the hundreds of millions of dollars versus the potential harm of a problem here. So I really do want to get a pretty good sense of how effective these are. What is the total cost? And what is the desired level? Because I would like to be supportive of this. Let me just kind of close out the hearing, going down the line, if you have a final comment before we end the hearing. We will start with you, Ms. Hutchinson. Ms. Hutchinson. Thank you for your strong support of our program. As you can see, they are very effective. We saw it here this morning. I know we need more across the system. We will get you that answer. We are looking at that as an organization. One thing we did not talk about which I think is a huge benefit for canines is just the ability to evolve them with the threat. So we can train them very quickly as new threats emerge, and we can also deploy them differently, so as the threat changes to insider threat, we can move them to the back side of the airport very quickly. So it is a very portable asset for us as well, and I think that is significant for our mission. Thank you. Chairman Johnson. Mr. Montes. Mr. Montes. Once again, thank you as well. I want to point out one significant point. As we continue to evolve our CBP Canine Training Program, one of the emphasis is the type of dogs that we are selecting and the process that we have been able to refine. I will give you the statistical number because you said you liked metrics. In fiscal year 2015, through our vendors, through our contracts, through our open source, 428 dogs were presented to us for possible selection of entering our service. Through our very rigorous performance and medical selection, we have only selected 278 of those. That is a 64-percent selection. So the dogs--there are an abundance of canines out there, but we are looking for a particular type of canine for our mission. Now, of those 270, currently we have 208 that have completed training. We have 51 that are in training. And only 11 of those dogs were not able to meet our performance standards. And we talk about lexicon as far as failure. That is what we would consider failures. So as it is right now, the CBP canine program, the return on investment of taxpayer dollars, we are at a 95-percent success rate of dogs that walk through our door and our training that we are able to train, certify, and create a working dog team for the CBP operational components to enforce and secure our borders. Chairman Johnson. Thank you, Mr. Montes. Director Grover. Ms. Grover. Yes, sir. TSA does have an effective program here, and they have made great strides in using the metrics that they need to oversee their program, and we look forward to working with them to address these final issues remaining. Chairman Johnson. Thank you. Dr. Otto. Dr. Otto. I think that we all agree that the dogs do give us a huge advantage, and I think continuing in a collaborative research environment so that we can answer some of these questions, that we can provide those metrics. And I agree that the dogs are so flexible that even if a machine could detect some odor, when we look at the environments that they are working in and things that change, that whole ability for the dogs to problem-solve and reason really puts them kind of leaps and bounds ahead of any kind of machine-type approach to this problem. Chairman Johnson. OK. I want to thank you all for your time and your testimony. I want to thank the handlers, the dogs. I know Senator Carper named them. He did not mention Jerry, so thanks to Jerry for being just cute and soft. [Laughter.] Again, thank you all. I really do appreciate it. With that, the hearing record will remain open for 15 days until March 18 at 5 p.m. for the submission of statements and questions for the record. This hearing is adjourned. [Whereupon, at 11:07 a.m., the Committee was adjourned.] A P P E N D I X ---------- [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] [all]