[House Hearing, 116 Congress] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] LOST EINSTEINS: LACK OF DIVERSITY IN PATENT INVENTORSHIP AND THE IMPACT ON AMERICA'S INNOVATION ECONOMY ======================================================================= HEARING before the SUBCOMMITTEE ON COURTS, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, AND THE INTERNET of the COMMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED SIXTEENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION __________ MARCH 27, 2019 __________ Serial No. 116-12 __________ Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary [GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Available http://judiciary.house.gov or www.govinfo.gov U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 36-359 WASHINGTON : 2019 COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY JERROLD NADLER, New York, Chairman ZOE LOFGREN, California DOUG COLLINS, Georgia, SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas Ranking Member STEVE COHEN, Tennessee F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, Jr., HENRY C. ``HANK'' JOHNSON, Jr., Wisconsin Georgia STEVE CHABOT, Ohio THEODORE E. DEUTCH, Florida LOUIE GOHMERT, Texas KAREN BASS, California JIM JORDAN, Ohio CEDRIC L. RICHMOND, Louisiana KEN BUCK, Colorado HAKEEM S. JEFFRIES, New York JOHN RATCLIFFE, Texas DAVID N. CICILLINE, Rhode Island MARTHA ROBY, Alabama ERIC SWALWELL, California MATT GAETZ, Florida TED LIEU, California MIKE JOHNSON, Louisiana JAMIE RASKIN, Maryland ANDY BIGGS, Arizona PRAMILA JAYAPAL, Washington TOM McCLINTOCK, California VAL BUTLER DEMINGS, Florida DEBBIE LESKO, Arizona J. LUIS CORREA, California GUY RESCHENTHALER, Pennsylvania MARY GAY SCANLON, Pennsylvania, BEN CLINE, Virginia Vice-Chair KELLY ARMSTRONG, North Dakota SYLVIA R. GARCIA, Texas W. GREGORY STEUBE, Florida JOE NEGUSE, Colorado LUCY McBATH, Georgia GREG STANTON, Arizona MADELEINE DEAN, Pennsylvania DEBBIE MUCARSEL-POWELL, Florida VERONICA ESCOBAR, Texas Perry Apelbaum, Majority Staff Director & Chief Counsel Brendan Belair, Minority Staff Director & Chief Counsel ------ SUBCOMMITTEE ON COURTS, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, AND THE INTERNET HENRY C. ``HANK'' JOHNSON, Jr., Georgia, Chair LOU CORREA, California, Vice-Chair THEODORE E. DEUTCH, Florida MARTHA ROBY, Alabama, CEDRIC RICHMOND, Louisiana Ranking Member HAKEEM JEFFRIES, New York STEVE CHABOT, Ohio TED LIEU, California JIM JORDAN, Ohio GREG STANTON, Arizona JOHN RADCLIFF, Texas ZOE LOFGREN, California MATT GAETZ, Florida STEVE COHEN, Tennessee MIKE JOHNSON, Louisiana KAREN BASS, California ANDY BIGGS, Arizona ERIC SWALWELL, California GUY RESCHENTHALER, Pennsylvania BEN CLINE, Virginia Jamie Simpson, Chief Counsel Thomas Stoll, Minority Chief Counsel C O N T E N T S ---------- MARCH 27, 2019 OPENING STATEMENTS Page The Honorable Henry C. Hank Johnson, Jr., a Representative in the Congress from the State of Georgia, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Courts, Intellectual Property, and the Internet............. 1 The Honorable Martha Roby, a Representative in the Congress from the State of Alabama, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Courts, Intellectual Property, and the Internet................ 3 The Honorable Jerrold Nadler, a Representative in the Congress from the State of New York, and Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary...................................................... 4 WITNESSES The Honorable Michelle Lee, Former Under Secretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property and Director U.S. Patent and Trademark Office Oral Testimony................................................. 13 Prepared Statement............................................. 16 Professor Lisa D. Cook, Associate Professor of Economics and International Relations, Director, American Economic Association Summer Training Program, Department of Economics, Michigan State University Oral Testimony................................................. 21 Prepared Statement............................................. 23 Professor Ayanna Howard, Professor and Chair, School of Interactive Computing, Georgia Institute of Technology Oral Testimony................................................. 40 Prepared Statement............................................. 42 Ms. Susie Armstrong, Senior Vice President, Engineering, Qualcomm, Inc. Oral Testimony................................................. 45 Prepared Statement............................................. 47 LETTERS, STATEMENTS, ETC., SUBMITTED FOR THE HEARING Prepared statement for the record from the Honorable Doug Collins, a Representative in the Congress from Georgia, and Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary..................... 73 APPENDIX material submitted for the hearing record Questions to witnesses for the Record from the Honorable Martha Roby, a Representative in the Congress from the State of Alabama, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Courts, Intellectual Property, and the Internet....................................................... 78 Response to questions for the Record from The Honorable Michelle Lee, Former Under Secretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property and Director U.S. Patent and Trademark Office......... 80 Response to questions for the Record from Professor Lisa D. Cook, Associate Professor of Economics and International Relations, Director, American Economic Association Summer Training Program, Department of Economics, Michigan State University.... 83 Response to questions for the Record from Professor Ayanna Howard, Professor and Chair, School of Interactive Computing, Georgia Institute of Technology................................ 87 Response to questions for the Record from Ms. Susie Armstrong, Senior Vice President, Engineering, Qualcomm, Inc.............. 88 LOST EINSTEINS: LACK OF DIVERSITY IN PATENT INVENTORSHIP AND THE IMPACT ON AMERICA'S INNOVATION ECONOMY WEDNESDAY, MARCH 27, 2019 House of Representatives Subcommittee on Courts, Intellectual Property, and the Internet, Committee on the Judiciary Washington, DC. The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10:00 a.m., in Room 2141, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr. [Chairman of the Subcommittee] presiding. Present: Representatives Johnson of Georgia, Nadler, Deutch, Jeffries, Stanton, Lofgren, Correa, Roby, Chabot, Jordan, Reschen-thaler, and Cline. Staff Present: Jamie Simpson, Chief Counsel; David Greengrass, Senior Counsel; Madeline Strasser, Chief Clerk; Rosalind Jackson, Professional Staff Member; Thomas Stoll, Minority Chief Counsel; and Andrea Woodard, Minority Professional Staff Member. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Good morning, everyone. The subcommittee will come to order. Without objection, the Chair is authorized to declare recesses of the Subcommittee at any time. We welcome everyone to this morning's hearing on ``Lost Einsteins: Lack of Diversity and Patent Inventorship and the Impact on America's Innovation Economy.'' I will now recognize myself for an opening statement. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the first hearing in the 116th Congress of the House Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on Courts, Intellectual Property, and the Internet. I am proud that we begin our Committee's work on a topic that is of paramount importance to the future of our country, ensuring that everyone has the same equality of opportunity to participate in our Nation's innovation economy, a right so important that it is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. Our long-standing commitment to the innovation economy has made the United States a world super power. We have a duty to ensure that everyone has an equal chance to participate fairly in this vibrant part of our economy without misuse or abuse. Women, minorities, and other underrepresented groups of people should not be excluded from the patent system or face unnecessary barriers. Moreover, if we are to stay the world leader, we cannot afford to leave innovative talent behind. As the Subcommittee on Intellectual Property, we come at this question from a particular angle, looking at who is named as inventors on U.S. patents. Because the first Patent Act passed in 1790, shortly after this country's founding, we have a large documentary history of data to use. The good news is that this data shows that the patent system has long played a role in enabling marginalized but ambitious and inventive people the ability to participate in the innovation economy through the receipt of a patent. For example, while the majority of African Americans were still enslaved, the first patent believed to be awarded to an African American was in 1821 to Thomas L. Jennings for his new method of dry cleaning clothes. Another example: well before women obtained the right to vote, the first patent believed to be awarded to a woman was in 1793 to Hannah Wilkinson Slater for her new method of producing cotton sewing thread. The bad news, however, is that, in modern times, data shows that there has not been a good track record of progress towards having equal protection from these groups in the patent system. The USPTO's recent report on gender diversity shows that, even today, the total number of inventors who are women in the United States is only 12 percent. It has not substantially increased over the last 15 years. For other underrepresented groups, collecting data on patenting has been more challenging. The USPTO does not collect demographic data on who applies for patents. In the gender space, researchers have often relied upon algorithms to estimate if an inventor's name is male or female. This is not a perfect approach, but it is even harder for researchers to associate inventor data with other demographics such as race or ethnicity. I am pleased that one of our witnesses today, Professor Lisa Cook, has nonetheless conducted research on how many African Americans are named as inventors on patents. This body of work, including Professor Cook's research, documents that there is underrepresentation here as well. I look forward as well to hearing from the rest of the accomplished witnesses on this panel about their own stories of being a woman or minority in fields where they might have had few peers who look like them. I want to understand the challenges they faced and their ideas for improvement and, indeed, where they have already taken steps to improve participation, like former USPTO director Michell Lee's All in STEM initiative to address gender diversity. Congress has certainly taken notice of this issue before. I was proud in the last Congress to work with the gentleman from Ohio, Mr. Chabot, and other Members of this Committee on the passage of the SUCCESS Act, which called for the USPTO to put together a comprehensive survey on patenting by women, minorities, veterans, and low-income individuals. But it also seems that there is much more that we can do, and I hope to learn more about potential steps we can take from our witnesses as well. I have often heard, for example, that many from underrepresented groups leave STEM fields once they are in them because they find themselves in an unwelcoming work environment. Research shows that this is just one of many reasons why there might be underrepresentation. And there is no doubt that this is a complicated issue, but it is also critically important. I think the title of the hearing speaks directly to this, ``Lost Einsteins.'' When women and minorities are not in the innovation pipeline or if they leave because they don't feel welcome, we are losing sources for increased innovation. We are leaving talent on the table, and, frankly, we are leaving talent behind. The lack of diversity calls into question whether there is an equal opportunity for all of these underrepresented groups to live up to their full potential if being an inventor or an innovator is what they want to do. I believe we can and should do better. Thank you, and I look forward to your testimony. And it is now my pleasure to recognize the Ranking Member of the Subcommittee, the gentlewoman from Alabama, Mrs. Roby, for her opening statement. Mrs. Roby. I thank the Chairman, and I thank all of the witnesses for being here with us today. Patents are one of the key drivers of innovation in this country. And by protecting inventions from theft, they provide the incentive necessary for individual inventors and small and large companies alike to invest the time and resources needed to develop lifesaving and life-enhancing products and helps the United States maintain its position in the world as the world's undisputed innovation leader. To realize our full potential, America needs to tap into the inventive genius found in the great minds of all our citizens, great minds like that of NASA chemist Barbara Askins, a graduate of the University of Alabama and a Huntsville resident, who, in 1978, was recognized as the first national inventor of the year. Ms. Askins invented the autoradiograph technology to create very high contrast images used in space photography and to vastly improve X-ray images. She was the sole inventor on the project and alone received a patent. Unfortunately, while U.S. women earn almost half of all the undergraduate degrees in science and engineering and 39 percent of all new Ph.D.s in this field, even today they are not receiving a proportionate share of patents. The USPTO's recent study on the issue found that, in 2016, a woman was named on only 21 percent of all patents granted, and women inventors made up only 12 percent of all inventors. It concluded that gains in participation in science and engineering occupations and entrepreneurship are not leading to significant increases in women inventors receiving patents. We have to do a better job of unlocking this potential to both help all of our citizens enjoy the fruits of their labor while also helping the U.S. to maintain its position as the technology leader. To that end, just last year, this committee passed a bill that was signed into law with that goal in mind. The SUCCESS Act instructed the USPTO to work with the Small Business Administration to study the issue and report to Congress on recommendations for promoting the participation of women, minorities, and veterans both in entrepreneurship and in applying and obtaining patents. I look forward to receiving that report and its recommendations. Today, we all look forward to hearing from our esteemed witnesses on their experiences with the patent system and how our great female minds value the patent system but have experienced challenges fully participating in it and their recommendations on what can be done to promote the creation of new inventions by women and minorities in the patenting of those inventions. So, again, I thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I thank you again, all of the witnesses, for appearing here today. And we look forward to not only your testimony but having the opportunity to engage with each of you. Thank you. I yield back. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you, Representative Roby. I am now pleased to recognize the Chairman of the Full Committee, the gentleman from New York, Mr. Nadler, for his opening statement. Chairman Nadler. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you for holding this important hearing to investigate why there is a lack of diversity among patent holders in the United States. Unlike many issues in Congress, there is bipartisan agreement on the need to protect American intellectual property and to foster innovation. So many entrepreneurs today rely on intellectual property to fuel their businesses, and these businesses are increasingly the engine of economic growth in our Nation. Statistics underscore how important IP is to our economy. In 2016, the U.S. Commerce Department reported that IP- intensive industries contributed more than $6 trillion of value to the U.S. gross domestic product. With so much of our economy dependent on IP-related industries, it is critical that everyone share in the economic opportunities that these industries offer. Promoting greater inclusion in the innovation ecosystem is good for our economy, good for underserved communities, and good for all Americans. Unfortunately, research shows that many segments of our society continue to be underrepresented as inventors on patents. The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office's recent report on gender diversity finds that women are very much underrepresented as patent holders. Analyzing data on U.S. patents granted between 1976 and 2016, the report shows that women compromised only 12 percent of the named investors on patents in 2016, representing an increase of only 2 percent over the last 16 years. Clearly, whatever progress is being made is happening far too slowly, and much needs to be done to promote greater gender diversity among inventors. Moreover, the USPTO's research shows that the underrepresentation in patenting is not solely a function of women entering science and engineering fields at lower rates than men, although that continues to be a problem. In 2015, women compromised nearly 28 percent of the total science and engineering workforce but only 12 percent of inventors granted patents. Even when women are in the fields most associated with patenting, they are patenting at the same rate as their male colleagues. This shows that the gender gap in patenting is likely to be caused by many factors, not just because there are fewer women scientists and engineers. Unfortunately, because the USPTO does not collect demographic data on inventors, it has been more challenging to study racial and ethnic diversity among U.S. inventors. Nonetheless, the studies that have been done also show significant disparities in patenting rates along racial and ethnic lines. I hope to learn more from the witnesses about how we can improve data collection on this issue and learn more about the causes of these disparities since the first step toward solving the problem is understanding its scope and root causes. For example, one study found that exposure to innovation during childhood has a major impact on an individual's desire to become an inventor, that a child's likelihood of becoming an inventor increases if he or she grows up in one of our country's technology hubs. I am proud that New York City, where my district is located, counts as one of these hubs, and I hope we can figure out how to replicate this sort of inventive environment elsewhere throughout the United States. As the title of this hearing suggests, there may be many lost Einsteins in our country. The loss in economic value and innovation to say nothing of the missed opportunities for these individuals who are left behind presents a significant challenge that must be addressed. I look forward to hearing from our witnesses not just about the barriers that underrepresented groups may face in the innovation ecosystem but also about how we can begin to address this serious problem. We can and we must do better, and that starts with hearings like this. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back the balance of my time. [The statement of Chairman Nadler follows:] [GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. I will now introduce today's witnesses. Michelle K. Lee is the Former Director of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and Former Under Secretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property. In that role, Ms. Lee was the principal advisor to the President through the Secretary of Commerce on domestic and international intellectual property policy matters and is the first woman to serve as the Director of the USPTO in the country's 220-plus-year history. She is also a veteran of Silicon Valley experienced in scaling fast-growing companies with disruptive technologies and an expert in intellectual property. She was the Deputy General Counsel for Google and, before that, worked at the law firm of Fenwick and West LLP. She currently serves as a public company board of directors for alarm.com, a provider of a cloud-based software as a service solution. Before building her legal career, Ms. Lee worked as a computer scientist at Hewlett-Packard research laboratories as well as at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Artificial Intelligence Laboratory. She holds a B.S. and also an M.S. in electrical engineering and computer science from MIT as well as a J.D. from Stanford law school. Professor Lisa D. Clark teaches at both James Madison College and in the Department of Economics at Michigan State University. After receiving a B.A. from Spelman College, she was a Marshall Scholar at Oxford University, where she obtained a B.A. in philosophy, politics, and economics. She received a Ph.D. in economics from the University of California at Berkeley and was a Postdoctoral Fellow and Visiting Assistant Professor at the Kennedy School of Government and Deputy Director for Africa research at the Center for International Development at Harvard University. Her current research interests include the economics of intellectual property rights, economic growth, and development, financial institutions and markets, and economic history. Dr. Cook is the author of a number of published articles, books, chapters, and working papers, and has edited and contributed to the Harvard World Economic Forum Global and Africa Competitiveness Reports. Dr. Ayanna Howard is a Professor and Chair of the School of Interactive Computing at the Georgia Institute of Technology. She is also the Chief Technology Officer of Zyrobotics. She has made significant contributions in the technology areas of artificial intelligence, computer vision, and robotics. Her published research numbers over 250 peer-reviewed publications. Her accomplishments have been highlighted through a number of awards and articles as well as being named an MIT technology review top young innovator and recognized as one of the 23 most powerful women engineers in the world of Business Insider as well as one of the top 50 U.S. women in tech by Forbes. Prior to Georgia Tech, Dr. Howard was a Senior Robotics researcher and a Deputy Manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Dr. Howard received her B.S. from Brown University, her MSEE from the University of Southern California, her Ph.D. in electrical engineering from the University of Southern California, and her M.A. from Claremont University Drucker School of Management. Susan M. Armstrong is a Senior Vice President in Engineering at Qualcomm. She started at Qualcomm working on Globalstar and then early CDMA base station projects. She was a pioneer in bringing internet protocols to the cellular industry resulting in the first web surfing on a cellular phone in 1997 and Qualcomm's commercialization of packet data in 1998. Since then, she has held various leadership positions, first as the head of software engineering in Qualcomm's mobile chipset division and then as the head of worldwide customer customer engineering, the group that integrates and commercializes the company's products and phones and other wireless devices. Recently, Ms. Armstrong has joined Qualcomm's government affairs group, where she brings an engineering and product background to policy work. Prior to joining Qualcomm in 1994, Ms. Armstrong worked for 10 years at the Xerox systems development department and the Xerox Webster Research Center. Ms. Armstrong holds a Bachelor's degree in Computer Science from California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo. And, I hope that I have got that name right. Qualcomm? Ms. Armstrong. Qualcomm, yes. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Okay. Thank you. We welcome all of our distinguished witnesses and thank you all for participating in today's hearing. Before proceeding with testimony, I hereby remind each witness that all of your written and oral statements made to this Subcommittee in connection with this hearing are subject to penalties of perjury pursuant to 18 U.S.C., section 1001, which may result in the imposition of a fine or imprisonment of up to 5 years or both. Please note that each of your written statements will be entered into the record in its entirety. Accordingly, I ask that you summarize your testimony in 5 minutes. To help you stay within that time, there is a timing light on your table. When the light switches from green to yellow, you have 1 minute to conclude your testimony. And when the light turns red, it signals your 5 minutes have expired. Once again, I thank you all for being here. And, Ms. Lee, you may begin. Ms. Lee. Good morning. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. And if you would turn on your microphone. Thank you. STATEMENTS OF THE HONORABLE MICHELLE K. LEE, FORMER UNDER SECRETARY OF COMMERCE FOR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AND DIRECTOR, U.S. PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE; LISA D. COOK, ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF ECONOMICS AND INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS, DIRECTOR, AMERICAN ECONOMIC ASSOCIATION SUMMER TRAINING PROGRAM, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMICS, MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY; AYANNA HOWARD, PROFESSOR AND CHAIR, SCHOOL OF INTERACTIVE COMPUTING, GEORGIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY; AND SUSIE ARMSTRONG, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT, ENGINEERING, QUALCOMM, INC. STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE MICHELLE K. LEE Ms. Lee. Good morning, Chairman Johnson, Ranking Member Roby, and Members of the Subcommittee. It is a pleasure to be with you here today and thank you for hosting a hearing on such an important topic. Invention is a cornerstone of America's continued economic prosperity and well-being. Our world faces numerous challenges, including global warming, food insecurity, and cybersecurity, but also a number of attractive opportunities, including finding new cures for diseases and providing greater mobility for those with disability. But solving those problems will require all the talent and all the ingenuity that we can muster. Yet when it comes to technological innovation, we are rowing with one hand behind our back. We have all seen the numbers. The percentage of women who are awarded patents in the U.S. is extremely low, anywhere from 12 to 21 percent, depending upon the study and depending upon how you count. And one recent study indicated that, at this rate, it would take 118 years for us to reach parity in gender in terms of patenting. Why are the numbers so low? Number one, fewer girls and fewer women pursue STEM careers. And even those that do face high attrition rates. There are a myriad of reasons for this including differences in upbringing, societal expectations, fewer role models, unconscious bias, and even images in the media. Both these factors contribute to the low numbers in terms of women patent inventors. If you think about it, in order to earn a patent, you have to have a pretty good understanding of your field, the technology, and how a product or process works. And then you have to come up with an insight that no one else has ever thought about on how to make it better, faster, cheaper, more cost-effective. And these insights don't often come to you in your first several years of practice in the profession. So, to the extent that women are leaving STEM careers earlier and at faster rates, that negatively impacts their patenting numbers. Another contributing factor is the way organizations solicit invention disclosures. Based upon my experiences as in- house counsel, there are generally two ways: first, as a voluntary inventor-initiated submission and, second, as a manager-initiated brainstorming session inviting the relevant team members to brainstorm to harvest the inventions. The latter method, manager-initiated brainstorming sessions, tended to be much more productive in terms of getting invention disclosures from women. Left to their own devices, women tended to discount the novelty and usefulness of their inventions and were less willing to dedicate the time to submit an invention disclosure and to process the patent application and viewed such activities as extracurricular professional activities. This has implications on our economy. IP-intensive industry support one- quarter of all jobs in the U.S. and make up one-third of our gross domestic product. So what can we do? Personally, as a woman who has spent her career in tech and as the first woman head of the United States Patent and Trademark Office in our country's 200-plus-year history, I felt a heightened calling to address some of the problems I had seen. This led me to launch, as Chairman Johnson said, the first All-in-STEM initiative at the PTO. Its purpose: to encourage more girls and more women to pursue STEM education so that they could become inventors, STEM leaders, and entrepreneurs. Programs included camp invention to teach our kids to design and build and create; a Girl Scout intellectual property patch to teach our young girls about IP and invention; workshops for women inventors and entrepreneurs so that they know of the resources and they have the support they need to carry out their work. But there are ways that all of us can contribute. In-house patent counsel can measure and track the relevant statistics and be thoughtful on how invention disclosures are gathered. We can all be conscious of the disparate ways in which we raise our boys and girls, from the toys they play with, to the activities they pursue, to our expectations of them. We can broaden the image of inventors by sharing stories of successful women inventors, mentoring students in STEM to the maximum interest and potential of these individuals; and, within organizations that hire STEM talent, try to find ways to reduce unconscious bias and to recruit and retain these women and, if in alignment with your organization's priorities, including patenting as a factor to consider in the promotion and tenure decisions. I am not advocating for gender parity in patenting numbers simply for the sake of achieving parity. Rather, I believe we need to nurture, develop, and harness all of our nation's technical, innovative talents in whatever shape, age, gender, background, or other demographic in which it may come. As the title of your hearing suggests, our society and world cannot afford to leave behind any future Einsteins. Thank you. I will be glad to answer your questions. [The statement of Ms. Lee follows:] [GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. Professor Cook, you may begin. STATEMENT OF LISA D. COOK Ms. Cook. Chairman Johnson, Ranking Member Roby, and eminent Members the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today about ``Lost Einsteins: Lack of Diversity and Patent Inventorship and the Impact on America's Economy.'' While we have my cousin, Percy Lavon Julian, to thank for cortisone, which he developed in the 1950s, it was difficult living and being an African American inventor at that time. His home in Oak Park, Illinois, was fire-bombed twice. We as a society have made progress since that time, but invention and innovation could be more inclusive and beneficial to everyone as a result. Unequal access to invention and innovation can lead to suboptimal outcomes for individuals and for the economy as a whole. My research with Kongcharoen offers evidence that women and underrepresented minorities are less likely to participate in invention and innovation at each stage of the inventive process: education and training, the practice of invention, and commercialization of invention. For women and minorities or would-be participants in this category, this can result in an earnings, income, and employment wealth gap. For the economy as a whole, this can result in lower output and living standards. My and others' research calculates that the size of the economy could be 3 to 4 percent higher if women and underrepresented minorities were included in the innovative process from beginning to end. That is living standards could be higher for all Americans with a more inclusive innovative economy. My research was the first study to systematically examine racial and gender gaps in invention and innovation. Allow me to say a little about my and related research. In the early stages of education and training in STEM fields, women and underrepresented minorities lag in participation in nearly every STEM field. In 2014, women were awarded 35 percent of bachelor's degrees in STEM fields, and 16 to 17 percent of those in computer science and physics, and 23 percent of doctoral degrees in engineering. For African Americans, this was 4 percent of all STEM Ph.D. Degrees. The recent literature on the gender and racial gap related to participation in STEM fields attempts to identify the factors affecting these differences including the impact of social norms and gender stereotypes, peer effects, and professors' gender on test scores and college majors. With respect to practicing invention and creating new knowledge or products, women and African Americans not only engage at generally lower levels than their counterparts, but they also earn less and are employed less than their counterparts. In 2010, the median salary for Whites was $72,000, and for African Americans it was $56,000, which was 78 percent of the median salary for Whites. In 2015, the share had only moved slightly to 79 percent. In 2015, the median salary for men was $87,000 and $62,000 for women, which was 71 percent of the median male salary. Among scientists and engineers, in 2015, African American unemployment was 4.7 percent compared to 2.9 percent for whites. The unemployment rate for African American women is nearly double that of all scientists and engineers and more than double that of White women scientists and engineers. Unemployment for underrepresented minority men was just about 4 percent, which is higher than that for White and Asian men and higher than the average for all scientists and engineers. A few papers in the last decade have focused on the misallocation of talent among inventors and other high-skilled workers. My research found that coed patent teams are more productive than single sex male or single sex female patent teams. Hunt, Garant, Herman, and Munroe investigate the gender gap for commercialized patents and show that the gender gap among S&E degree holders is due primarily to women's underrepresentation in patent-intensive fields and patent- intensive job tasks. They also find that closing this gap would increase U.S. GDP per capita cap by 2.7 percent. My 2018 research shows that closing that gap--using more recent data, closing that gap would be 0.6 percent to 4.4 percent higher--GDP would be 4.4 percent higher if more women and African Americans received STEM training and worked in related jobs. Workplace issues for women and minorities go beyond the opportunity to participate in invention and innovation. Recently, tech workers in the U.S. have demonstrated to protest sexual harassment and misconduct, lack of transparency, including forced arbitration for sexual harassment claims, workplace culture, and pay and opportunity inequality. Among the Forbes list of richest people in the world, 5 of the top 10 derive their wealth primarily from the innovative economy.And nine tech firms last year were valued at roughly $36 billion. If the aforementioned losses to GDP were being tolerated, firms, technology offices, and patent teams are not being good stewards of America's human capital and inventive capacity. This is a classic coordination problem and market failure. Public policy can help in the research, analysis, and promotion of diverse participation and inventive activities. I look forward to talking to you more about finding the lost Einsteins as well as the hidden figures, such as Katherine Johnson. [The statement of Ms. Cook follows:] [GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. Dr. Howard, you may begin. STATEMENT OF AYANNA HOWARD Ms. Howard. Thank you, Chairman Johnson, Ranking Member Roby, and full Committee Chairman Nadler. My name is Dr. Ayanna Howard, and I am professor and 569 Chair of the School of Interactive Computing at the Georgia Institute of Technology. I also have served as the associate 571 director of research for the Institute for Robotics and Intelligent Machines and Chair the robotics Ph.D. Program. From 1993 to 2005, I was at NASA's jet propulsion 574 laboratory where I held the titles of senior robotics 575 researcher and deputy manager in the Office of the Chief Scientist. I hold a degree in engineering from Brown University, an M.S. and Ph.D. in electrical engineering from the University of Southern California, and an MBA from the Drucker Graduate School of Management. My research concentrates on robotics, assistive technologies, and artificial intelligence, which has resulted in over 250 publications. In 2013, I founded Zyrobotics, a Georgia Tech spinoff company which designs AI-powered STEM tools and learning games for children with diverse learning needs. My research has been supported by various industry and government funding agencies ranging from NASA and the National Science Foundation to the Georgia Research Alliance, and Microsoft. I regularly consult and sit on the advisory boards of a number of organizations concerned with robotics, AI, and workforce development. My work has also been highlighted through a number of awards and articles, including highlights in Vanity Fair, USA Today, and Time Magazine, as well as being recognized as one of the 23 most powerful women engineers in the world by Business Insider and one of the top 50 U.S. women in tech by Forbes. Despite all these successes, I only hold three patents, which will now be the subject of discussion. I would like to focus on my experience with the patent system. I do consider myself an innovator and an entrepreneur. Invention is core to what I do, and yet I only hold three patents. Even though there has been a gain in female participation in science and engineering, findings have shown that there has been not a corresponding increase in female patent inventors. My story corroborates with this claim. My first application was filed in 2003 while I was still a graduate student and designed an encryption system using fingerprint biometrics with a small startup company. Given that neither of us had great financial resources, we put together a patent application that was filed. We eventually dropped pursuit of the application after our patent claims were denied. After all, in the world of logic, a rejection means just that: patent denied. It wasn't until 10 years later in 2013 that I pursued my next patent. And the only reason that came about was that I needed to submit a provisional patent in order to compete for the NSF I-Corps program, which is basically a boot camp entrepreneurship program for academics and university-derived IP. I developed at that time a device that enabled children with motor disabilities the ability to interact with tablet devices without requiring pinching, swiping, or touching. A year later in 2013, when the provisional patent was to expire, after much discussion, Georgia Teach moved forward with filing the patent application. Although it is now 2019, almost 6 years later, it has still not been granted. So what about the other patents that have been granted? Well, I discovered a little bit of a trick. I hired a great patent lawyer. So, when Zyrobotics, the Georgia Tech spinoff company was founded, it licensed the IP from that first patent. Given that I knew to be competitive, the company had to possess its own IP, we hired an extremely talented patent attorney. Although quite expensive, we secured two patents within a 2- yeat timeframe. And I finally understood how the process worked, how the back-and-forth dance with the patent examiner evolves, how denial really means ``find another way, find another way, find another way,'' and how persistence can lead to success. Unfortunately, the price tag is not very sustainable for a startup company in the education space. I also think it is not that sustainable for an academic institution in which the return on investment is not well defined. So, given my personal experience in this space, it comes as no surprise to me that women still make up a small percentage of the patent inventors. Reports state that U.S. female-founded startups raise just 2.2 percent of venture capital investment in 2018. Without sufficient capital, how, then, would you prosecute a successful patent application given that the price tag is so high? I strongly believe, beyond educating entrepreneurs and given the state of affairs that currently we have, a more robust pro bono patent attorney agent program for small businesses would immensely help inventors compete in this patent world. It would also help level the playing field just a bit for women and underrepresented entrepreneurs. In closing, I appreciate the committee's attention to this topic.I stand ready to answer your questions and work with you on moving forward to help create a patent system where more researchers like myself can find success navigating the ins and outs of pursuing a patent. [The statement of Ms. Howard follows:] [GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you, Dr. Howard. Ms. Armstrong, you may begin. STATEMENT OF SUSIE ARMSTRONG Ms. Armstrong. Chairman Johnson, Ranking Member Roby, and Members of the Subcommittee, my name is Susie Armstrong, and I am a Senior Vice President of engineering at Qualcomm. Thank you for inviting me to testify today on this critical topic of diversity and innovation. As the leading U.S. company engaged in foundational research and development of 5G, Qualcomm believes that diverse innovation is an imperative. We can only solve the world's toughest engineering problems if we bring together teams with different backgrounds and different perspectives. Our CEO, Steve Mollenkopf, said recently: With 5G, new and previously unsolvable problems will be solved, new generations of innovations and innovators will be born. And we need more great technology minds, and that means getting the next generation, in particular women and underrepresented communities, excited and prepared for the world to come. Since starting Qualcomm in 1994, I have held various leadership positions at the company but first consider myself an engineer and an inventor. In my experience, invention rarely involves people working alone to develop brilliant ideas. More often, invention is a team effort that requires the creativity, the interaction, the debate, and the multiple perspectives that different collaborators bring to recognize a technical problem or opportunity. My own invention, called simple packet data, allowed cellular phones to connect to the internet and resulted in the first internet surfing of the 1997 CTIA show on this phone. I created a simple way for a base station to set up a packet data call by bringing to our engineering team my background in a completely separate field, computer communications and ethernet. That invention was impactful. 20 years later, mobile internet has revolutionized the way we communicate, paving the way for 5G and the wireless economy of the future. But not everybody has equal access to careers in innovation. Multiple studies have shown that women, people of color, and people from lower income families patent at lower rates than those that are White, male, and wealthier. At Qualcomm, given the complexity of the fundamental 5G technologies we research and develop, we must promote a culture of creativity, risk-taking, and diversity. We simply cannot afford to miss out on those engineers and inventors in underrepresented groups. We focus our efforts on four key areas to develop inventors both for Qualcomm and for its 5G foundational technologies and also for the industries and applications in use cases that use that ecosystem. First, as many inventions come from the STEM field, we believe we must encourage STEM education. To spark that interest in such invention careers, we created the Qualcomm Thinkabit Lab, a hands-on program aimed at inspiring the next generation of inventors, where students learn about 5G, the Internet of Things, tech career, and they create their own Internet of Things invention. The response has been so positive that we have partnered with school districts, universities, and libraries to create Thinkabit Labs in underrepresented communities across the Nation. Second, we have examined our hiring processes, especially on-campus recruiting. Last year, we added a Historically Black College and University--and two universities with high Hispanic populations to the top schools that we actively recruit at. And we also recruit at the Grace Hopper Conference for Women and Computing. We strive to send recruiting teams that reflect the excitement of wireless and semiconductor fields, reflect the existing diversity in the company and the diversity that we hope to achieve. Third, we focus on retention and new project opportunities for our diverse employees. We know from research and experience that mixed-gender teams are innovative. So we strive to spread these best practices. We develop employee-led networks to promote professional development. We work on engineering the bias out of our review and project rotation systems. We strive to ensure that diverse employees have access to coaching, mentorship, and career development opportunities and that they, in turn, pass those on. Finally, we work to create and maintain a strong culture of invention and patenting across the company. We have a strong inventor development program with both online and in-person patenting classes and encourage our patent holders to coach and mentor others. We also recognize our inventors as a way to celebrate them and encourage others. Engineers are proud to have their special badge and business cards with the inventor mark, and their status as patent holders appears in the company directory. Executives send a congratulatory letter to each inventor who obtains a patent, and we hold celebrations for inventors. In summary, it is a strategic and economic imperative for Qualcomm, for the 5G wireless ecosystem, and for the United States to ensure that inventors from all backgrounds and perspectives participate in solving these challenging engineering problems. Qualcomm is committed to ensuring the diverse people have every opportunity to bring their talents to that imperative. Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today, and I look forward to your questions. [The statement of Ms. Armstrong follows:] [GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you, Ms. Armstrong. And, I want to thank all of the panelists for their testimony today. We will now proceed under the 5-minute rule with questions. I will begin by recognizing myself for 5 minutes. Professor Cook, thank you for your pioneering work on how many African American inventors there are on patents. In your opinion, is there enough data available to understand the scope of the underrepresentation of racial minorities in patenting? Ms. Cook. There is not. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. What can be done to improve data collection? And are there any actions that Congress should consider? Ms. Cook. I think there are a few. First, I think it is imperative that we collect the data-- and suggesting that this be collected separately. These demographic data being collected on gender, race, ethnicity, and so on would be--I think would be very useful. I would add that adding veteran status and disability status would also be useful because the literature that I have talked about was burgeoning and is burgeoning, Assessment 2010. But there is a lot less on making an inclusive economy in other ways. So, yes, I think that this is a big first step in identifying African American inventors and other inventors. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. Director Lee, do you have an opinion on that question? Ms. Lee. I do agree that collecting the data is critically important. From my time in government and also in the private sector, there is nobody that collects data better than the government in terms of accuracy and consistency over the decades. So, if the USPTO could collect demographic information, gender, and so forth, ethnicity, that combined with knowing what technology area the patent is in could give policymakers, agency leaders, private sector leaders, and academics a road map as to areas that are doing well, areas in need of improvement. And we can even compare data to international data points because patents from all over the world flow in through the United States Patent and Trademark Office. So that sort of insight could be very, very influential and impactful. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. This question I will pose to all four of the witnesses. What do you think is the biggest obstacle to getting more women and minorities to participate in the patent system, beginning with you, Ms. Lee? Ms. Lee. There are many. How many of our children--how many of our girls grow up dreaming to be inventors? I ask that question. How could we get more of them to? How can we give them more STEM skills education? How can we recruit and retain? How can we give them the know-how so that once they are professionals in STEM, they know about how to obtain a patent, that it need not be as expensive as one thinks, that there are discounts that are offered to small entities and micro entities. Really getting the information out there that anybody can file for a patent. As you mentioned, Chairman Johnson, you don't even have to be a free person to get a patent. There is no age restriction. There is no gender restriction. Everybody should be able to get one, and they should know how to participate in the innovation economy. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. Professor Cook. Ms. Cook. I think there are a number of things that could be done. I am on the board of the Lemelson Center for the Study of Invention and Innovation. And it has a spark lab. And I think that it has satellites all over the country. And it does this important work of showing students and schoolchildren how to not only invent but to innovate. And I think this is the point at which you get in students' heads and children's heads that they can do this. And this is the research that was referenced before by Teddy et al., in terms of exposing children to innovation. I certainly think knowing an inventor, a famous inventor like Percy Julian, certainly had this primordial--or planted this primordial seed to possibly study this. So I think it is really important to do this as early as possible. I also think being vigilant with respect to making sure that the EEOC is paying attention to these issues related to workplace harassment and to discrimination. It is not just the pipeline that is the problem. What we are hearing from workers is that it is the climate that exists when they are adults. This unemployment rate, this difference is, I think, primarily due to issues like this. So your keeping your eye on the ball and making sure that the Federal Government, the agencies tasked with doing so, keep their eyes on the ball with respect to harassment and discrimination will be extremely useful. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. Dr. Howard. Dr. Howard. So, one, it has to be part of the DNA. And the way that you do that is you bring in successful women, patent owners, and inventors from very early on because there are so many things that a woman entrepreneur has to deal with that patents is not in the purview. That is such a ``I don't understand that value'' a lot of times. So, by exposing early, you at least start to dig a little bit into the problem. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. Ms. Armstrong. Ms. Armstrong. And I would say I would echo what has been said along the table about the culture and getting children and minorities and girls into the STEM areas that tend to yield in patents. I think there is also--and I think a lot of girls and minorities don't see themselves in those careers. And they don't necessarily see themselves as inventors. And they don't know anything about patents. And that actually applies, I think, also to early career women and minorities as well. Unless you are in a company that stresses patenting and invention, every company stresses creativity and ambition, but I think there is a lack of access to practical tangible tools, perhaps pro bono work for the legal aspects of doing patents. But also, in so many of these incubators that I see, there is a relatively small number that seem to have actual patenting classes or coursework to help their entrepreneurs write patents. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. We will next hear from the Ranking Member. Well, actually, we will go to Mr. Chabot for questions. Mr. Chabot. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate you going--I want to thank our Ranking Member for allowing me to go. We have got a Small Business Committee that I am the Ranking Member on after this, and so it was very kind of them to let me go. I want to thank the panel members for their excellent testimony here this morning. I really did appreciate it. And as you may know, we passed some legislation. Introduced it, but there were a lot of members involved. I want to thank the chair for his involvement and Ms. Velazquez and Mr. Schneider and Mr. Gohmert and a bunch of others for their involvement in it. It is called the SUCCESS Act, which basically stood for Study of Underrepresented Classes Chasing Engineering and Science, SUCCESS Act. We always make these things very long names. But, in essence, it called for a study within the next year on what we can do to increase women, minorities, veterans, and others in obtaining patents. Because as the testimony from the witnesses was, it is very challenging to accomplish that. And so I guess my first question would be, as we are waiting for--and I will go to you, if I can, Dr. Howard, perhaps, first. And our congratulations, really, on your hard success and being a small business owner yourself and your years of dedication as a NASA scientist and all your other accomplishments, we commend you for that. So I will go to you first, I guess. As we are waiting for this legislation and study to be--the legislation has passed. It passed the House. It passed the Senate. The President signed it into law. So it is the law. And it extended the patent, the fee structure for 8 years. But it also did what I just mentioned, to encourage women, minorities, and veterans to be able to obtain patents themselves. As we are waiting for this study, what other things can we be doing in the meantime before the study comes back to accomplish some of those things so that folks aren't waiting for a year to get started? What would you suggest? Dr. Howard. So there is a lot you can do with women and underrepresented entrepreneurs with boots on ground, as they say. So a lot of times we don't even know that this is an issue. I think that there is enough patent owners that would be like: I can come and I can talk to my local community, my local entrepreneurs in my area and work with them, because we have gone through it, and so we know the pain. And we are more than willing, most of us, to come back and help the community. So some of it making those connections. Mr. Chabot. Thank you. In your testimony, you mentioned that one of the things that you would suggest, obviously get a good patent attorney, and they are expensive. You know, I wasn't a patent attorney, but I practiced law for almost two decades out there. Of course, I wasn't expensive. But in any event, I mean, we charge. Yes, I did pro bono cases periodically. And you mentioned that it would be great if, perhaps, patent attorneys would do things pro bono, if we could find a way to do. And that is great. And some will. But if you can't get enough of them to do that, then the only other way is paying those high fees or getting somebody else to do it, which means the taxpayer, meaning we have some government program that does it. Those are tough. We have got a $22 trillion debt. So what can we do--and I will open this up to any of the other panelists as well. If lawyers aren't going to provide free services, and we don't have the money to do it at the government because we got this $22 trillion debt hanging over our heads, what can we do either to get lawyers to be more helpful or other things besides that? Dr. Howard. So one thing, and this is just a wild suggestion. So most small businesses do have SBIR grants. Part of that is--there is no way to use it for patents or even partially for patents. And so it might be that that is part of the solution, right? Like, we have this overhead. Like, maybe we can use some of that somehow for patents. And so, yeah, it increases a little bit, but it is already part of the budget, is already part of your DNA. It is a wild suggestion. Mr. Chabot. Very good. Not that wild. Pretty good. Any of the other panelists? Ms. Lee. As the lawyer on the panel and as a former head of the United States Patent and Trademark Office, there are a lot of resources that are available to inventors. At the agency, I helped launch an initiative to offer pro bono services. Of course, it is never quite enough, right, given the demand. But there are discounted fees. And I am very proud to say, during my tenure at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, I helped launch three of the four regional offices, one in Silicon Valley, one in Denver, one in Detroit, one in Dallas. And you know what? That is getting resources out into the local community so that those individuals there can have workshop training programs, can reach out into the schools, can educate the students on what is intellectual property, who can be an inventor, what does an inventor look like. We distribute baseball, but inventor, collectable trading cards at schools with images of women and minority inventors, right? And we have workshops where people, including women workshops, where they come in, they learn the basics of intellectual property: What is a patent, trademark, copyright, trade secret? How do I figure this out so I could be smarter so that when I engage that lawyer, I can be much more efficient, and I can even write the patent application myself should I so choose? So there are a lot of resources that are available. There is a lot that can be done. But everybody should have access to the intellectual property system. Mr. Chabot. Thank you very much. My time has expired, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. We will now hear from the gentlelady from California, Representative Zoe Lofgren. Ms. Lofgren. Thank you very much. Director Lee, it is good to see you again. This is my second iteration on the PTO report on women inventors. We had the current director out at the San Jose patent office, and we were talking about the role we both played in making sure that office got open. And I will tell you, it is a huge success. So thank you for the efforts that you made, and the community is very supportive. And one of the things that is so helpful is to have the patent examiners right in San Jose. I mean, the big companies can afford to send people out here to the D.C. area. But for the smaller inventors, the proximity is really a big deal. So it is filling a good mission. You know, as I am thinking through and thinking back on the discussion we had at the San Jose office, we are falling short in diversity from the beginning with--and it actually gets worse the older people get. We have got girls coding, but the actual number of women entering computer science programs at the university level is declining. And we know we have a problem in industry as well as academia. So the question is, what can we do about that? And I don't think there is any one answer. But I do think, just focusing on the role of business, because most patents are filed out of the business sector. Comparing even the patent innovation in the academic setting to the business sectors, the business sector does not appear to be doing what it needs to do. And after the policy discussion we had in San Jose, a lot of the representatives from the companies we were asking, we will need to examine our own procedures because not only is this not good for the country; it is not good for these companies. They are losing out as well. So I am wondering--you know, I always remember a convention I went to with my then-chief of staff, who was female, at the Santa Clara--city of San Jose convention center. Huge, huge room. It was engineers, electrical engineers, in the valley. And we walked in, and it was like a sea of men. And we looked, and there were like maybe 10 women of the thousands of engineers who were--who kind of glommed together. And I thought, you know, you don't have to have a hostile work environment in the legal sense to not have a welcoming environment. How do we go about setting metrics to change that? I mean, we can't tell employers how to run their businesses directly. But what could we do as a Congress to kind of help companies move a different direction? Michelle, you have been at the office. You have been at Google. You have been a patent lawyer. What are your thoughts? Ms. Lee. Yes. So thank you, Congressman Lofgren. And thank you also for your leadership in establishing the Silicon Valley office. That was a great partnership. I do think it is critically important that the data be gathered, because companies, even if they gather it, they sometimes don't publish it. Ms. Lofgren. Right. Ms. Lee. And if the government could gather it across the board, across the country, across all ethnicities, across all demographics, and compare that to countries across the world--I understand that in Romania, the number of researchers in engineering who are women is 44 percent. Ms. Lofgren. Right. Canada is also different. I mean, it is not about gender; it is about what we are doing. Ms. Lee. Correct. So I think it is important to record the data, track the progress, and, therefore, pinpoint and focus by technology area, by industry, because it varies. In the life sciences, the numbers are higher. Ms. Lofgren. Right. Ms. Lee. In computer science, it is much lower. So let's be specific, let's be granular. And Federal agencies, like I say, they collect data over decades, and it is accurate. And that is a very good starting point. So then private sector, policymakers, academics, they can all look at how to improve, where do we need to improve. Ms. Lofgren. So one thing that I want to explore is, you know, as we looked at the diversity issue in Silicon Valley, in my district, we said, you know, if you can't measure it, it doesn't exist. I mean, you have to start measuring it, and the big companies did. I mean, Google, in particular, went on a huge effort. I am not saying they succeeded completely, but they have, on diversity and the hiring, published their data and the like. We could--I think we have jurisdiction, because of our EEOC jurisdiction, to require publication of some of this data. Is that a step that the four of you would recommend? Ms. Cook. Yes. Excuse me. If I can answer, yes, that would be a huge boon to researchers, but the way they release the data, I can't do anything with them. I can make some good charts, the charts that they make, but I can't do any sort of analysis. Typically, for race and ethnicity, for example, they are bundled into the world workforce. Ms. Lofgren. Right. Ms. Cook. Women are often not divided by technical fields and other fields. And what we know is that they are typically in marketing and in human resources. So I think if you are asking the question about what we can do now, I think one of the things that we are doing in the economics profession is doing a climate survey and coming up with results that are being circulated widely. And I think it is the climate. I really think it is the climate. It is not the--the supply side. We figured that out. There are a lot of women who would like to be in the tech field, for example, or be an entrepreneur, inventor. This is what I was doing at the--at the White House when I was working on small businesses. But we don't have as much information, and we don't have as much sway. And you all would with the EEOC data, for example, to do something about the climate in particular. Ms. Lofgren. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. We will next hear from the Ranking Member of the Subcommittee, the gentlelady from Alabama, Mrs. Roby. You are recognized for 5 minutes. Mrs. Roby. Thank you, Chairman. And again, thank you all for being with us today. I want to pick up where we left off, Director Lee. We were talking about, with my colleague, the patent pro bono program which provides the free legal services to eligible inventors, the PTO's pro se assistance program which allows inventors to file their own application and seek the assistance of the patent examiner to identify patentable invention, and the PTO's law school clinic program which allows supervised law students to help inventors file applications. And I guess what I want to hear from you is about, do inventors know that these programs even exist? And if more inventors were aware of these programs, would it likely result in more women and other underrepresented groups filing more patent applications? And I would go a little bit further to say, it is buried in the website. You have to go through several different clicks before you actually find this information. And so if today's hearing is about making this information more accessible, to me, on the surface, that seems like a really easy fix in terms of the USPTO making this information more readily available. So if you want to weigh in on that, that would be great. Ms. Lee. Right. Well, thank you for raising the point. So I do not believe that as many people who should know about the programs do know about the programs. So there is a lot more work to be done. And one of the reasons why I was so passionate about the regional offices of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Offices is because we have inventors and potential inventors all over this country. And the distribution geographically of patent holders is not equal. So those offices, the vision is not just to put examiners in a room and have them process patent applications. When I defined the vision for those regional offices, it was to engage with the community. Having been a user of the USPTO services for the entirety of my career, they offer all these amazing services that, oftentimes, people do not know about. So through the regional offices and through a lot of hard work at the headquarter office, a core part of the USPTO's work is to get the word out there about the many programs that are available and to tap communities that are underrepresented. So there is more work to be done, but there are great programs, more programs to be developed, but you really have to get the word out there. Mrs. Roby. Well, and just to reiterate the point, I mean, if you are--if expense is already an issue and traveling to the regional offices is part of the expenses associated with pursuing this, it makes sense, when we all do everything on this---- Ms. Lee. Right. Mrs. Roby [continuing]. All day long, that it could be as easy as visiting the website and having access to that information. But would it make sense to take the opportunity as well, while the PTO is on campus recruiting science and engineering students, to promote the benefits of patenting by these students and to bring their attention, at the same time, to the existence of many of these assistance programs, so that later in life, even, the students and their businesses can be PTO customers? Ms. Lee. Absolutely. Any touch point you can have with the local communities, particularly the underrepresented ones, including at career recruiting services, or when they are in elementary school, giving them an inventor baseball card so that one day, they think, huh, there is the Patent and Trademark Office and if I have an idea, guess what, I can file for a patent through that agency. Any touch point is good. Mrs. Roby. That is great. And then just building upon that--because you mentioned it, Dr. Howard, --in your testimony--can you let us know, when did you become aware of the PTO pro bono program, its law school clinic program, and its pro se assistance program? Dr. Howard. Alas, I can say about a week ago. Actually, basically trying to figure out what--reading the report that came out in terms of women and underrepresentation, which is-- and I am in this world, and I mentor a lot of young students, women entrepreneurs in Georgia and at Georgia Tech, and, unfortunately, I didn't hear about a lot of these programs. Mrs. Roby. So I think you just put the exclamation point on my point, that someone as knowledgeable as you are didn't even know the existence of these programs. So, Mr. Chairman, I would suggest again that there are some pretty easy fixes here in terms of accessibility. If anybody else--I have got 10 seconds--wants to weigh in, but I think this is a really important point. These programs exist and can be expanded, and we ought to be looking at ways that we can do that. Ms. Cook. I would just add that the SBIR and STTR programs are also not very known to inventors and to entrepreneurs, especially underrepresented minorities. Mrs. Roby. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. We will next have Representative Stanton from the great State of Arizona. Mr. Stanton. All right. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for highlighting this incredibly important topic and how, if we can help to work on this issue and do better on the issue that these outstanding witnesses have discussed, how it will benefit the American economy. I am lucky enough to represent the district that includes Arizona State University, is ranked number 17 of all universities worldwide for U.S. patents, so in the top 20. Includes MIT, Stanford, Johns Hopkins, and Harvard. So I am extremely proud to represent an innovative community that cares so deeply about advancing ideas that will undoubted have a significant impact not only in Arizona, but across the globe. However, we are lucky in Arizona and across the country, we are growing in diversity. It is one of our great competitive strengths, but if that is not represented in the growing number of patents, we are not doing our job. It is simply not acceptable that women investors made up only 12 percent of all inventors on patents granted in 2016. There is no good reason why leaders in our African American, Hispanic, and other minority communities, why they are so extremely underrepresented in the patent system of our country. There is no good reason why we don't do a better job of collecting information so we can provide better solutions so that the great diversity that we are lucky enough to have in our country can be better represented in our patent system. So thank you for holding this hearing to talk about these important subject matters and what we in Congress and America can do to help solve this issue. Ms. Cook, Professor Cook, I wanted to ask you a particular question. I read your testimony in advance. I hope it wasn't covered when I wasn't here, but I was mostly interested in what you indicated about the loss to the American economy. If we don't have greater diversity in our patent representation, it is not just a loss to the individual scientist; it is a loss to all of America. And I wanted to give you a chance to maybe expound upon that point to better explain to people watching here and to Congress how this hurts the American economy. Mr. Cook. So it is interesting that you would pick up on that. One of the most stark results that I had early on in my research was that single-sex teams were less productive than co-ed teams, and that is what I was being invited to Silicon Valley firms to talk about the most. And I think that makes the economic argument on a micro level. We are leaving--and you know economists hate to do this--we are leaving $20 bills everywhere. I would say they are Benjamins; they are not even $20 bills--displaying them everywhere, and we are not picking them up. This is invention that is going undone. This is higher living standards that are going missed by all Americans. So we should certainly consider that from a policymaking perspective and from the work perspective, the firm's perspective, that it is not making use of this human capital and of America's inventive capacity. Mr. Stanton. I think that is a great point. America is the world's leading economy, we want to keep it that way. And working with you and others to solve this issue, to make sure that the great diversity that we are blessed to have in America is better represented in our innovation ecosystem, including in patents, that will make the American economy more competitive on a global scale. It is really important. Thank you for your testimony. I yield back. Ms. Armstrong. Representative Stanton, could I add something to that? Mr. Stanton. Please do. Ms. Armstrong. I think it is--I love the research data that shows the economic benefit, and I also think it is a very--it is a global issue. And it is a very strategic issue. If you look at the WIPO report, in Korea and China, the numbers for women patenters--patent holders are much higher and growing significantly. And I think we can't afford, strategically as well, to let that trend go unnoticed. Mr. Stanton. Thank you very much. I guess I still have a minute. So other witnesses, comments on the impact, on the America economy that we are not doing a better job of making sure that women, people of color, are more represented in the innovation ecosystem. Ms. Lee. Yeah. Just one final point is, not only is it an imperative in an increasingly competitive international landscape, but some of our most innovative companies cannot hire the technical talent they need, and they are turning overseas to fill the gaps. And they are turning to Congress to alter immigration laws and so forth. So clearly there is an economic imperative as well as a social imperative. Mr. Stanton. Thank you. I yield back. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. We will now hear from the great Representative from Virginia, Mr. Cline, for 5 minutes. Mr. Cline. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank the witnesses for being here today. This has been very interesting testimony on a very important subject. As the father of two 7-year-old daughters, I want them to have every opportunity to succeed in whatever field they go into, and I very much encourage the foray into sciences. They are already taking coding classes in school. I didn't even--I couldn't even believe it, in first grade, that they are already teaching coding in the schools, and that is fantastic. But I am intrigued by the numbers, and I am looking forward to the report, because I think it will provide a little bit more information about, as you were saying, Professor Cook, about the different areas of research. And while women may make up an equal number of scientists in biological and life science fields but not in other areas of science, like engineering, what I am interested in, we have made some progress, and the PTO's recent report indicates that the percent of patents with at least one woman inventor increased from 7 percent in the 1980s to 21 percent by 2016. Would you consider that to be a positive sign, and why has the growth rate slowed since 1998, from 14 percent to 21 percent in 2016, while more and more women are entering scientific fields? Ms. Cook. So that is a--that is a really good question. And, in fact, that was the starting point of my research in 2010. I saw all of these women going into biological sciences. At the time, I was at Stanford, and I just thought, there is so many opportunities in biotech, why aren't we seeing women among the inventors? So I think that this is definitely a big issue. I think making sure that there are interesting things for your 7-year-old girls to do, that are just like the things that men would like to do, boys would like to do, I think is a big deal. If we walk down the aisles of a party goods store and you are looking for items for parties, all the pink stuff is princess stuff and all the interesting stuff, like Star Wars and having to do with innovation, is for boys. So I am--I think we really have to start early in terms of the messages we give to students. And my professors, my colleagues, who talk about having hackathons, say that women typically don't come because they don't find these interesting problems that they are trying to solve. So for all the coding that the women are learning, there are no outlets for them that they find interesting. And I am not going to say the bar is higher for women in terms of interesting projects, but I think at least one can be sensitive to that. Mr. Cline. And to the numbers in the recent slowing of the growth rate since 1998, do you think--I mean, do you have any explanation for that? Does it have to do with developments in certain segments of the industry? What would you say to that? Ms. Cook. I think the patent teams are getting larger, and we know that, patent teams are getting larger. And I think that is just a feature of patent teams getting larger, that women happen to be on them. And I think you just met an equilibrium-- the stagnation equilibrium. But what we know from other STEM fields is that there are fewer women going into the fields and going into Ph.D. Programs. So that may be a reflection of what is happening on the front end too. Mr. Cline. Would anyone else like to add to that? Ms. Lee. So there was an interesting statistic that in computer science in particular, in the 1980s, like in every other scientific discipline, the numbers were going up, in some areas faster than others, but in computer science, it went down, and people are asking why. And if you look back, there was an article written that, at the time, the personal computer was being introduced, and affluent parents bought their sons personal computers and they learned how to program. So when these kids then go to college and take computer science classes, if you have had experience computer programming, you are going to do pretty well in that computer science class, but if you have never touched a computer, it is going to be a lot harder. So even if you have the intention to enroll in a computer science program, when you have that first class, it is hard. So what we buy our kids, in terms of toys and activities we engage them in, matter tremendously. And also, if you think about it, the images in the media, about that time, you know, Revenge of the Nerds, the images of computer geeks, antisocial, if you are a woman or a girl, who wants to be that? So a lot has to do with image, but a lot too has to do with the toys, the programs, the activities we give to our boys versus girls. Mr. Cline. We are buying a lot of Legos in the house right now, but I am also glad in culture--and I see Ms. Lofgren has stepped away, but talking about the climate, I am glad that Captain Marvel is a woman. And that movie is coming out now, so I can't wait to take my girls to see that. With that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. Next up will be the Chair of the Democratic Caucus, New York Representative, Mr. Jeffries, for 5 minutes. Mr. Jeffries. I thank the distinguished Chair of the IP Subcommittee and all of the witnesses for your presence here today. It seems when you address this diversity challenge that we are confronting in the STEM industry, that there is a recruitment issue that is problematic, that many of you have spoken to, but there is also a retention issue. And if you solve the recruitment issue but don't deal with the retention issue, you know, at the end of the day, you haven't really meaningfully addressed the problem. And, you know, maybe starting with Professor Cook, but I would be interested in everyone's perspective, what are some of the retention challenges that people of color and women face in the innovation economy? Ms. Cook. So thank you for your question. I think that one of the things that is becoming more and more evident is that the climate in many of these patenting firms is not what it should be. And because they are demonstrating--because there are workers from these companies demonstrating, we should listen to them. And if you can do anything, have any sway over, say, the EEOC pursuing these claims, I think that would make a big difference. There has to be some outside force, because they have not been able to police themselves in this way. We can make the argument--I can go to these firms and talk about the money that is being left on the table because patent teams are single sex rather than co-ed. I can talk about that. I make the profit maximization argument, but I think on the other hand, there has to be enforcement, EEOC enforcement. And there seem to be a lot of things going on that need a watchful eye. Mr. Jeffries. Director Lee, can you comment on sort of the culture at these institutions that may be impacting the ability to retain talented women and/or people of color? Ms. Lee. Yeah. I mean, it is hard when you don't see people who look like you, and it is hard when they don't look like you in more ways than one. So to the extent--now, that shouldn't stop us from, you know, inspiring those underrepresented minorities to pursue these fields, but greater networks, greater support, greater retention efforts, greater consciousness, measuring the data, focusing on areas that need improvement, it is--it should be within the priorities of a business to want to have these diverse teams. Because as Professor Cook says, diverse teams, if you are thinking about creating something innovative that has never been done before, you get the greatest innovation--and studies have been done on this--with people with different perspectives, who don't look at the problem the same way. Mr. Jeffries. Ms. Armstrong. Ms. Armstrong. Being from one of these companies who struggles, frankly, to not only recruit, but to maintain a diverse workforce, there is a lot of challenges that have been talked about here as well. And one of them, frankly, is, how do you create this snowball effect. You know, when I was always the only woman in the room, especially when you work overseas, and how do you create an environment where, especially some of the younger people want to work in--people want to work in an environment where they see a diverse team or a set of people that look like them as well. And so, you know, it is very hard to come up with a set of magic bullets, but there is a number of things that we are working on. Implicit bias does exist. I am sure it exists in all of us. So we are trying to engineer that bias out of our systems, out of our review systems, and out of our project rotation systems, and then certainly recruiting and also trying to show that Qualcomm is a--and semiconductor and wireless technology is a really wonderful place to have a career. But it is a challenge. Mr. Jeffries. Thank you. And, Professor Howard, if you can just comment briefly in connection with your testimony about sort of the high cost of obtaining a patent and that as a barrier to entry for greater levels of diverse participation. I think you have spoken of sort of the patent fees as well as the cost of representation as challenges that people face, women or people of color. Dr. Howard. Yeah. So the patencies themselves I wouldn't claim is as much of a challenge, but it is basically prosecuting, i.e., going, doing the dance with the patent examiner to finally get the patent issued, that is really the problem. That is the majority of the problem. And if you are a small business, especially women or underrepresented, every single dollar you have is primarily so that you can support the business, especially since the angel MVC is not as on par with other groups. Mr. Jeffries. Thank you. And, Mr. Chairman, hopefully that is one of the things that we can examine in moving forward, in terms of barriers to entry. And I yield back. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. At this time, we will hear now from the Representative from the State of California, the great State of California, Representative Lou Correa, 5 minutes. Mr. Correa. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Ranking Member. And I want to thank you for putting on this most important hearing. And I want to thank the members of the panel. I have really enjoyed your comments. I come from California, central Orange County. I represent a district that is essentially very, very blue collar, heavily immigrant, folks that are just trying to make it on a day-to- day basis. That is a doughnut hole. The doughnut, I am surrounded by biotech, high tech, and our challenge is to make that jump. It is very difficult to make that jump from getting our young men and women graduating from high school to work in the biotech sector. Ms. Lee, I was very pleased to hear that there is all these programs out there, that are very well kept secret, and I hope the Chairman and Ranking Member, all of us can work to get the message out that these programs are there. As I thought of your comments, I thought back to my days getting my MBA, the concept of actual versus perceived risk. Getting an MBA, a lot of my colleagues, top-class engineers, scientists, getting their MBAs, top schools, all of us dream of hitting it big, the entrepreneurship, you know, the American Dream. Yet a couple of years out, after you stumble a couple of times, you say, you know what, I am going to go after that steady paycheck. I am not going to go and risk my family. I want to start a family. Actual versus perceived risk. Later on we find out, 15, 20 years later, that you are going to get laid off from that big company, so maybe you should have gone and become an entrepreneur, started your business, so your destiny would have been in your own hands. That is what I am saying, actual versus perceived risk. And I ask all of you--Ms. Cook, I think you said we got to start out early. But I think we have got to change the mentality of our young folks that are getting their education, which is, we need to develop, not tolerance, but the expectation that in your life, you should be able to take these kinds of risks, do research and development. And maybe the Qualcomms of the world can step up and say, you know what, we are going to, not subsidize, but we are going to invest in R&D and diversity, not because it is the right thing to do, but because it is a smart business thing to do. You look at a problem from a different perspective, whether it be cultural, societal, language or otherwise, you are going to come up with a great idea that is going to sell. Good business. The challenge is, how do we get our young people to understand that it is safe. It is not really that risky to be an inventor, to go off and engage in being an entrepreneur. So I am running out of time here, but I would ask all of you to think--I would love to talk to you later on offline about how we roll out some of these programs. I close my eyes, I envision my high schools in my district. I started a program called Young Congressional Leaders. I meet with the kids Saturday mornings to go show them the biotech, the other career opportunities. But we don't talk much about being inventors. You know why? Because I have a lot of friends that tried to be inventors many decades ago and they fell flat and they ran for cover. And we need to teach those young folks, instead of running for cover, push harder and become inventors. Our country is essentially founded on entrepreneurship. Our country is founded on innovation. And we need to push those folks in the doughnut holes in our society to move on and take command of their lives and our communities. So I have 45 seconds left. But, again, love to sit down and talk to you. I am going to take names, I am going to take numbers. I want to talk to you about how do we roll out--Ms. Lee, how we teach our kids about these programs. I want to see my schools, my high schools, actually implement some of your programs. The pushback I get is, we don't have any money, Lou, we can't do this. And you are saying that there is money out there. We got a disconnect. Mr. Chairman, I yield. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. Next, we will hear from Ranking Member Roby once again. Mrs. Roby. Well, I just--thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just have one other statement that I want to make. The infrastructure for the law school clinic and the pro-se assistance programs that we have already discussed, that infrastructure, Mr. Chairman, is already in place. So expanding these programs to other universities would be of no additional expense to either the taxpayer or the patent applicants, and I think that is an important point to make as well. So if we are really serious about access to this information and to these programs, then this can be done already. So that is all I had to say. Thank you again for being here. Really appreciate your participation. Look forward to continuing to work with each of you to how we can do this better. So thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back. Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you. This has been a very important first hearing for this Subcommittee. I would like for us to continue on this topic as we proceed through this session of Congress, and on into other sessions of Congress to come. I want to thank our witnesses for being here today. And without objection, all members will have 5 legislative days to submit additional written questions for the witnesses, or additional materials for the record. And the hearing is now adjourned. [The information follows:] [Whereupon, at 11:32 a.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.] MR. COLLINS STATEMENT FOR THE RECORD [GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] APPENDIX MATERIAL SUBMITTED FOR THE HEARING RECORD [GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT]