[Congressional Record Volume 163, Number 76 (Wednesday, May 3, 2017)]
[House]
[Pages H3311-H3316]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
MATH AND FACTS
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of
January 3, 2017, the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Schweikert) is
recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the majority leader.
General Leave
Mr. SCHWEIKERT. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members
may have 5 legislative days to revise and extend their remarks.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there objection to the request of the
gentleman from Arizona?
There was no objection.
Mr. SCHWEIKERT. Mr. Speaker, we have a whole hour here, and we may
actually use the whole hour. This is an opportunity to actually walk
through three areas that I care an awful lot about.
One, I actually want to walk through something called math, and math
in regards to health care. Some of this is actually to deal with--and I
don't want to be mean, because I am going to try to do this in as
nonpartisan a way as possible, but some of the things that we have just
heard moments ago that lack just sort of basic roots in math and facts.
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Let me move this easel back just a little bit so we can get this. We
are going to do a little bit of show-and-tell here to sort of help.
First off, a conceptual problem, since, I believe, it is 1986, we in
the United States have had statutes that say, if a sick person walks
into a hospital and they have cancer, they are bleeding, they are going
to get health services.
This is a really important concept for us all to get our heads
around. There is no such thing as not receiving care in this country.
It may not be the care you want at the place you want, but it is the
law. It has been the law for 30 years.
If we are going to be brutally honest, much of the debate and
discussion we are having here, whether it be the ACA or prior to the
ACA where it was uncompensated care, where it was disproportionate
share within our hospitals, or our reform legislation, it is not
whether someone gets coverage or doesn't get coverage; it is who and
how it is paid for and where is it paid for.
Remember, these costs are already in the system. Does it go as a loss
on a hospital balance sheet? Does it get pushed over to other
populations within an insurance pool? That is the math we are actually
working on.
A couple of moments ago, you had a handful of Members come up and
talk about preexisting conditions. If you hear someone use the term
``preexisting conditions,'' they basically are years out of date. There
functionally is no such thing anymore. There is guaranteed issuance of
insurance.
We are going to go through this in more depth.
Someone like myself, I am a severe asthmatic. I walk around with an
inhaler in my pocket. I can grab any insurance today and I get
guaranteed issue.
Whether it be in the current ACA--ObamaCare, as many know it--there
are variations in what we refer to as community rating. There are age
levels. If you are a smoker, you get a different pricing.
Some of those same mechanics we are doing in our reform bill. We are
going to walk through why the way we are doing it we think actually
will ultimately lower prices. We are trying to get that efficiency of
the young and healthy to participate in the insurance pool, because
they are not participating today.
We are going to keep this board close by because this is important
for everyone to understand conceptually. I know the chart is hard to
see, but 5 percent of the population is 50 percent of the healthcare
cost.
Think about this. Of our brothers and sisters who have chronic
conditions, they are 50 percent of the healthcare costs, even though
they are only 5 percent of the population. That is why we did the risk-
sharing model that is being attached to our legislation. We are going
to walk more through that.
If you start to think about this curve--for those who want to do some
math--it looks like a hockey stick. The healthiest 50 percent only use
3 percent of healthcare dollars. So 50 percent of the population only
use 3 percent of the healthcare dollars. Then it comes along and
explodes up like a hockey stick. The top part of this hockey stick,
this 3 percent of the population up here, whether it be because they
are hemophiliacs or uncontrolled diabetics or have other types of great
difficulties, that population is 50 percent of the entire cost.
What happened in the current ACA is, let's face it, the model did not
work. You remember the whole discussion: keep your doctor; $2,500
savings; fewer visits to emergency rooms, which, actually, emergency
room visits have skyrocketed or gone up substantially.
Their model did not work, and mathematically it is imploding. We are
going to go through some data, particularly from my home State of
Arizona, on how much trouble we are in.
One of the reasons it has not worked is less than half the population
of those buying in that individual market are buying. Particularly, if
you look at our healthy 20-year-olds, our 30-year-olds, that 50 percent
of the population that only uses 3 percent of health care, they are not
participating in the insurance pool.
Well, how do you spread risk when you have millions and millions and
millions and millions of Americans who are choosing not to purchase
because it is too darned expensive or, because the contribution before
you receive health care is so expensive and the number of waivers, it
is just cheaper to pay the penalty?
So what happens when you are trying to do the math and you have your
brothers and sisters here in this body on the other side who either
make up facts or just say, ``Well, just keep it as it is''? I am going
to make the argument that the cruelty of that is just stunning.
We are going to start to walk through a little bit more of these so
we can actually help folks sort of understand this is the underlying
math, this is why we must have a substantial change.
Let's go back prerecession, just before the recession. Let's go back
here to 2007. We had about 14.6 percent of our population going
uninsured. That is unacceptable. Today after having spent almost--as
some data says, as much as $1 trillion, but we will stick with a half
trillion because that I can absolutely document--$500 billion of
subsidies, losses, if you actually add up the losses insurance
companies have had, if you add up the copays individuals had, if you
actually add up the money that has been spent through the
bureaucracies, we have dropped, say, a half-trillion dollars, today we
are at 10.9 percent.
If you are on the left, this is the grand success of ObamaCare. The
grand success of the ACA is that you have gone from 14.6 percent of the
population is uninsured, and today it is 10.9? Where is some of the
intellectual credibility around this place to at least tell the truth
of the math?
If you start to divide up how much we have spent--and we were just
doing this on the back of a napkin a little while ago. If you add up
the population that has now gained insurance through the exchanges that
did not have insurance or access to insurance before, some of the math
comes to around only 6 million people.
If you divide that by a half-trillion dollars, that is $84,000 per
life for 3 years of coverage. We could have bought them their health
insurance and a really nice car. You understand how absurd the current
model is.
I am not questioning the good intentions of wanting to help our
brothers and sisters have access to health coverage. Great. Now let's
make the math actually work.
This chart is really important. This is actually not coming from me.
This one, I think, is from Gallup. Most of the other data we are going
to get is going to come from Kaiser or the Congressional Budget Office.
I want you to understand I am going to be Arizona-centric because
that is my home State. I am blessed to represent the Phoenix-Scottsdale
area. But let's take a look at my little State down here. We are going
to burn through these fairly quickly.
I have about 6.7 million residents in Arizona. Okay. There are 6.7
million residents in Arizona. This is from Kaiser.
Let's switch to the next board. Of that 6.7 million residents in
Arizona, my citizens, how many buy their health care on that individual
market? That is what we are talking about.
When you keep hearing the grandiose ``the world is coming to an
end,'' how many of my brothers and sisters buy on the individual
market? About 278,000 people. That is a lot of people. But if you
divide it by our population, it is 4 percent of my population. In my
congressional district, it is somewhere around 2 percent of my
population.
The elegance of actually being honest about that piece of math is
that it helps you understand we can fix this. This is the individual
purchasing market.
Let's take one step backwards.
The majority of Americans receive our health care from our employers.
Then we come over here: Medicare, VA, Indian Health Service, TRICARE, a
number of these things. What we are talking about in the ACA and our
replacement is that sliver of our population that is in the individual
market and how to reform Medicaid. That is all.
But often when something is complicated, it comes ripe for political
hyperbolic language, acting like the world is on fire, instead of being
honest and making the math work so we can
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serve our brothers and sisters with the health coverage we want.
Remember, we have just come back here to Arizona. Only 4 percent of
my population is in the individual market. In my congressional
district, it is only 2 percent of the population.
Now, you need to understand that when you hear many of us get behind
these microphones and we talk about the system, the current ACA--
ObamaCare, as it is known; but I think that is unfair, so let's just
call it the ACA--is imploding. For my State, it is. We are going to
show you how few choices happen in my State. This is only between 2016
and 2017.
Do you see this blue right here? If you were in that county, if you
were in that individual market, you would have three or more choices.
Do remember that, when this law went into effect, we were promised
dozen of choices. Should we hold the left to their own promises? It
hasn't happened.
What is happening now, if you take a look all over the country, when
you see this chart, county after county after county now has one
choice. I want you to see what has happened in my home State.
First off, statewide in my State, if you were buying the mean
exchange plan, that Silver plan, statewide, last year, a 116 percent
price hike. That is if you are in Maricopa County and you are buying
the mean Silver plan.
Maricopa County is the fourth most populated county in the United
States, so it is not just a little outlier. It is the fourth most
populated county. It is 64 percent of my State's population in one
county.
If there were ever an example of a county that should have had health
care efficiency and pricing, it is Maricopa County. It is a large
population. If you were in that mean Silver plan, you had a 145 percent
price hike last year.
How can I see people get behind these microphones and act like this
system is working? Do you understand the crushing you are doing to
people in my State, hardworking people who just want to say: I am the
neighborhood plumber; I would like to buy health care?
Either the deductibles have gotten so huge or the underlying price
has gone up so high, we are actually seeing something fascinating in
the uninsured curve. The uninsured population has now moved into our
hardworking middle class because of the number of them that work for
themselves that can no longer afford to participate.
We will just say it was one of the unintended consequences of the
current ACA. But it is one of those occasions we all see the data, and
yet how many people get behind these microphones and tell the truth
about how many people we are crushing from these deductibles to the
current pricing?
You saw the previous chart. We have gone from 14.6 percent of our
population uninsured before the ACA to, now, 10.9 percent. We dropped
about a half-trillion dollars. That is $500 billion. That is not
counting Medicaid expansion. That is just the numbers over here.
We have had testimony in the Ways and Means Committee that we believe
only about 6 million Americans were newly insured, newly covered for
that half-trillion dollars. Look, it is great they have coverage, but
the math doesn't make sense. We could have done this so much more
elegantly.
So let's actually take a look at Arizona. This is 2014. If you go
before that, it was even bigger, but take a look at my county. See all
those little squares? Those were health insurance providers that were
available to you in 2014.
If you go a couple years before that, we had counties that had 15, 18
different possible insurance choices, companies who would provide;
today, 2017, you see one little blue square.
We are being told that we are going to have entire counties in my
State--and Arizona is unique in that we have only 15 counties in the
entire State. We are going to have entire counties with no insurance
provider to that individual market. This is a system that is working?
Take a look at my State. This is one of the reasons we have been
working so hard, why we did the risk-sharing model. This is reality.
This is Arizona. This is my home. My folks have had these massive,
triple-digit price hikes. Now they have a single choice, and they are
being told next year they may have no choice. This is the reality we
are at.
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So let's actually talk about solutions. How do you deal with this?
How do you actually help our brothers and sisters be able to afford
insurance? How do you encourage providers to come in and actually
participate in providing coverage to that individual market so there
are options, there is competition, there is choice?
If you actually think about what drives that price, so why the
explosion in price? Well, the current ACA, because of the way it has
these three tiers within, we will call it, the community rating--that
is where you take all the people in your community who are
participating in this insurance population, and say: You don't all get
the same price. There are certain adjustments, and some of the
adjustments were for age.
So the ACA, ObamaCare, the current law, had three adjustments plus
adjustments for smoking and a couple other externalities, and it made
the concentration of cost and risk so expensive that--remember our 50
percent of the population who only use 3 percent of health care--they
have chosen not to buy, which, in some ways, is a perfectly
economically logical reaction to the current cost, to a world where it
is so expensive it is cheaper to pay the penalty, so we have to find a
way to drive down that cost for that population so they participate.
When you were in school and you would hear the story in your
economics class of there are occasions where by lowering the price you
make more profit because you sell more units? The concept is pretty
much the same here in insurance. If we can lower the price for our
healthy population, more participate; we spread the risk over a larger,
healthier population; we lower the price for that 5 percent of our
brothers and sisters who are in that chronic category; plus we are
going to overlay a couple other things to help mitigate that cost to
get the price efficiency for everyone. It is important.
I know some of these slides are a little hard to get our heads
around, but we have put together something called an invisible risk
pool. If you are that American who has bought, who is participating in
this individual market but has a chronic condition, you never do a
traditional risk pool today because what we learned from the data over
the last 30, 40 years of risk pools, there have been a couple
successes, but most risk pools, hey, the cost goes up, you hit that
sort of threshold, and you dump that person, saying: Hey, you are now
the risk pool's problem, or you are the State's problem.
We wanted a continuity of care. We wanted the sick person to receive
services where the medical provider, the insurer, and the patient
themselves all have skin in the game. They all have a need to
participate, to manage, whether it be the individual's diabetes or some
other ailments. That is the beauty of sort of this risk-sharing model,
that for the population that is our sickest brothers and sisters, as
their cost graduates up, there will be participation from this risk-
sharing pool.
Why is this absolutely fair? Remember how we talked about how most
Americans receive their health care in the employer market? Well, your
employer gets a fairly substantial tax deduction for providing that
health care. They get to take it off their taxes. Well, we don't do
that for when you are in that individual market. When you are in that
individual market, for you to be able to take it off your taxes, so we
have tried to come up with this methodology to make it fair, so we have
come up with this tax credit. But we want you to have the money to help
purchase your policy in the beginning, so there is this whole term,
sort of this made-up new language that says a prefundable tax credit so
you can buy your health insurance in that individual market. So that is
on the front end. On the back end, to make sure the premiums, what we
call premium efficiency, have stayed low and affordable, we are
actually doing this risk sharing up here to help mitigate that spiking
of cost so we can lower the prices for everyone so we maximize
participation.
There is some elegance in the math, and I think actually there is a
great
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love for our brothers and sisters who have preexisting conditions up
here because it is an invisible risk pool. They never know whether
their cost is being subsidized by this pool, nor should they. We made a
societal decision 30 years ago that someone walks into an emergency
room, someone walks into a hospital with a condition, they get
services, so the cost is already in the population.
What we have been debating now for years is how do we pay, how do we
move the chairs around? But if we are going to get efficiency in
lowering premiums for everyone, remember, we need our healthy
population over here to participate in this, and then there is a couple
other things we are going to talk about.
So functionally what we have done with the risk sharing, it actually
accomplishes a couple really great things. One is the obvious part, if
you are the insurer, and let's say you are the actuary at the insurer,
and you are doing your math, you actually know what your risk exposure
is on each life. Why that is important is you don't have to build what
is often referred to as a shock absorber in your rates, saying: Dear
heaven, what happens if tomorrow I get a handful of folks with a very
difficult chronic condition that blows the cost off the charts? I have
to build cushion into my rates.
Well, with the risk-sharing model, they no longer have to have the
rates padded for that externality that might happen. It becomes this
multiplier effect where if I don't have to put that in the rates, I
have lower costs over here. If I have lower costs over here, the model
says I get a lot more participation in the health care pool, and
everyone benefits. That is what we are trying here.
So what do you actually do, if the argument I am making, whether it
be the ACA, whether it be our replacement, in many ways what we are
discussing is how to pay for the health care that is already in our
society. Remember, as we have been talking, there is no such thing, if
you are going to be completely honest, as a preexisting condition
denying you coverage. There are some cost stratas, but that is in the
current ObamaCare ACA, just as in our replacement, but some of that is
by age or if you smoke or other things.
How do you actually lower costs? Some of that comes in the next piece
of legislation because, as you all know, in the bill we are trying to
move now, we have to deal with the rules of we have no one on the left
in the Senate who is going to work with us. We are on our own. So we
have to find a way to do this with 52 votes in the Senate. We don't
have eight Democrats who are going to work with us. That means we have
to do it through reconciliation. Probably those of you who are
interested in this stuff, you have read how reconciliation limits the
things we can put into a piece of legislation. If you would like us to
have more things, go find us eight votes on the Democratic side in the
U.S. Senate.
So what do you do to lower costs? We all know information. How many
of you can grab your supercomputer you carry in your pocket right now,
log into the hospital surgery center--your doctor--and immediately hit
a button and say, Hey, the retina detachment, the cataract, the kidney
problems I have, here is my cost for the services, here is my cost for
the procedure?
We need information. That is going to come, I believe, later this
year.
The next thing is, with that information, you create competition.
That is incredibly important. Competition in health care comes as much
from the price as it does the quality. We have done some great things
in collecting quality data. With quality data and price information, we
are hoping there becomes now this incentive to actually compare and
move around. But what is the next revolution? I am going to make you
the argument--and this is one of the elegant things I believe that is
also now happening on the Medicaid side of our piece of legislation,
and that is to allow creativity at our State levels.
Arizona may have one of the most creative Medicaid systems, we call
it AHCCCS in Arizona. We buy functionally capitated HMO policies for
our indigent population. But every time we want to make a change, every
time we want to try something new to service our brothers and sisters
in Arizona, we have to march over to the Federal Government and get a
waiver. We have to get permission from the Federal Government. Well,
here is my question to you: Does a poor person--as a matter of fact,
anyone, if you are in the individual market, if you are on Medicare,
Medicaid, do you have the right to talk to your primary care physician
on this? Of course you do. Do you have the right to wear the sensor on
your body that helps you manage your high blood pressure? How about
this contact lens that is going to be out probably next year that will
actually sit in your eye and manage your blood glucose? No more
punching a hole in your finger and doing a blood test to check for your
blood sugars, your blood glucose. It will be constant, talking to your
phone, talking to your pump. If that keeps some of our brothers and
sisters with diabetes from crashing, it is great for all of us. It is
great for society. It is great for them. It is great for healthcare
costs.
There is a revolution coming technologywise. One of the things I
found fascinating is they actually have a little thing now where you
can put your fingers on it and it does a full EKG. There is disruptive
technology that is now available and is rolling out. How many of us now
wear a Fitbit that helps you manage parts of your health care? This
right here is about to bring a revolution in health care.
A simple example, just a thought experiment for anyone who actually
cares about these things: In Arizona, the majority of babies are born
in our Medicaid system. Even my little girl who we adopted a year and a
half ago, I believe she was born in my State's Medicaid system. Most
perfect little girl ever.
We know we have a problem in this country and in Arizona, a
substantial number of the moms don't show up for their prenatal visits.
When we have surveyed them, we get information back that says: It is
hard waiting for the bus. It is hot out. Dial-a-Ride makes me wait. Why
wouldn't you allow that poor person to hit a button on their phone and
have ridesharing pick them up? There are solutions. If we could get our
brothers and sisters on the right and the left here to actually talk to
each other about solutions, but instead right now health care is such a
potent political issue, I can show you article after article after
article where the facts that are being disseminated to the American
public are completely wrong. We heard some of that just minutes ago
behind these microphones where the facts are absolutely made up. It is
just incredibly cruel.
Let me explain the cruelty. A couple weeks ago, we were doing just
coffees with residents. A group of my constituents who are on the left
brought a woman, and she has tears running down her face. She is
standing in front of me wanting to know why we are about to take the
health care away from her husband who is across the street in the
hospital. How cruel does the left have to be to lie, to say something
like that to someone because none of that was true. Our bill, their
bill, that just can't happen in the language that if you are already in
the hospital, if you have a preexisting condition, these things are
covered, whether it be from the right or the left's language. But to
manipulate someone who is already suffering like that, what sort of
cruelty is in someone's soul to get a political advantage to manipulate
a wonderful woman who is already suffering with the difficulties of her
husband in the hospital?
I beg of you, whether you be on the right or the left, actually read
the amendments, actually read the language, understand what reality is,
understand we live in a society now where all preexisting conditions
have coverage. We already live under a law that has age brackets, if
you smoke, variances, but very small variances. Even in the latest
amendments, the discussion is, if your State wanted to do a statewide
prenatal program, or my State where we have a disproportionate share of
our population with diabetes, particularly with my Native-American
population, if my State wanted to get everyone together, whether it be
Indian Health Service, the VA, private insurers, our Medicare, Medicaid
system wanted to try to put together a statewide program to reach out
to our brothers and sisters with diabetes, that
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would be--if the actuaries and the math works--maybe wonderful. That
would be an occasion where my State would reach over to the HHS
Director and say: Can we have a waiver? We no longer need to have this
type of coverage mandated in these individual policies because we are
going to do it at the statewide level. I beg of you, think creatively.
How do we cover our brothers and sisters? How do we deal with the
reality that a huge number of our population right now is choosing not
to buy because of price or have been able to receive waivers
substantially because of price?
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And if we succeed here at driving the price down by our actuarial
efficiency, the risk sharing up here, and spreading out, a couple of
years from now, we are going to be standing behind these microphones
and saying math won out over hyperbolic rhetoric.
So can we talk about a couple of other things that are really, really
important?
I am blessed to be on the Ways and Means Committee. So why is tax
reform so incredibly important to all of us?
Understand, those of you who want to see Medicare, those of you who
want to see Social Security stay solvent, do you understand what is
happening with economic growth and the pressures right now and what is
going on?
So this little pie chart up here is functioning 9 years from now. You
have got to understand, in 9 years, only 22 percent of the spending
will be what we call discretionary, stuff I really get to vote on,
stuff that is not in the formula. Eleven percent will be nondefense.
Everything you sort of think of as government--the Park Service, FDA,
Education--those things where moneys come to the Federal Government
that go to these things is only going to be 11 percent of our spending.
Another 11 percent will be defense. Everything else is either Social
Security, Medicare, Medicaid, interest on the debt, or some of the
other unearned entitlement programs.
This is substantial because we are graying. You all heard of baby
boomers. But the reality of it is, in less than 9 years, every dime of
Federal revenues--and we are going to be taking in $1 trillion more. We
are going to go from $4 trillion to $5 trillion of revenue. Every dime
of Federal revenue will be consumed by what we call mandatory spending,
entitlements. Military and every other part of government is going to
exist on borrowed money.
So if you are someone who really likes education, if you are someone
who really thinks drug research is important, if you are someone who
thinks NASA is important, if you are someone who thinks the parks are
important, you should care about this.
The reality of it is the math curve, even with a substantial growth
in the economy, we are going to have to look at entitlement reform. And
I know that sets people off because they are fearful, but it is a lot
better than hiding from it.
The thing that makes it less painful is a growing economy. Tax
reform, we know, is the single greatest engine, the single greatest
lever we have here as Members of Congress to get the economy growing.
Fixing the healthcare issue will go a long way to help. Dealing with
regulatory, dealing with immigration, dealing with embracing technology
into our society and government can all be very powerful for economic
growth, because our future does not have to be one buried in debt.
But without a revolution in the way we think around here and a
willingness to do tough things--and tax reform is going to be hard, but
without it, you are basically sentencing my little 18-month-old girl to
a future buried in debt, buried in slow growth.
For those of you who may be my age, who are hoping to receive
Medicare and Social Security, you are putting those programs at
financial risk, and it doesn't need to happen. We can fix this, but you
have got to move it away from the hyperbolic politics and actually
start to be willing to own a calculator and start looking at the math.
Why this is so important, right here on this chart, is start to
understand, as you get down here--remember, 2027 is functioning 9 years
from now, and, actually, only 8 budget years from now. One more time,
every dime is consumed by Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, interest
on the debt, and the other handful of mandatory, what we call,
entitlements. This is your future. It happens in less than a decade. It
is here.
Please, big, bold, dynamic tax reform is the first thing we can do
this year, and then we are going to have to continue to move on to
technology and everything else to sort of do whatever is necessary to
get this economy growing.
This one is a little more difficult, but we wanted to actually hold
it up just so that there is an understanding of how fast we move from
right now. Today, in 2017, about 7 percent of our total spending is
interest. In a couple of decades, we start getting up to where it is 20
percent, a quarter of all of our spending.
And this chart, think of this. In 9 years, interest is 19 percent of
the budget. Okay. In 9 years, Medicare is 22 percent of our budget, of
all of our spending; Social Security is 29. Just add that up. Think of
that. Interest, Medicare, Social Security, the three of those start to
consume the majority of this institution's spending.
And then you add in what we call mandatory spending, other
entitlements, and you start to see, in 9 years, it consumes every
dollar of tax revenues. That is really, really important to understand
why we need to have this two-phase approach.
Right now we do everything that we can to maximize economic growth
and opportunity. And when we talk about economic growth, this isn't
just for the top line, big corporations. We need that economic growth
of those people that pay the FICA tax. Our brothers and sisters that
pay Social Security, our brothers and sisters that pay the unemployment
tax, our brothers and sisters that pay into Medicare, we need their
jobs to pay more. We need more of them. We need them to have more
options in the workplace.
So this is a tax design of how you maximize economic growth not just
for big corporations, but for everyone. That concept of: Remember when
we were all in school, that sort of velocity of economic opportunity,
that mobility? We have been stagnant for a decade. We must, must, must
bring it back.
And why these numbers become so difficult--and this chart is a little
hard to understand at first. These are the predictions of what economic
growth was going to be this year, to understand how much trouble we are
really in.
In 2013, the brilliant--excuse me. Yes, let's just make fun of them.
The economists around this town were saying: Hey, it is 2013; but by
the time you hit 2017, all this stimulus, all this spending, all this
debt, you are going to get a 4 percent GDP growth.
You all saw what we had last quarter. What was it, 0.7?
Now, honestly, first quarters the last couple of years have had a
distortion, I think, in the seasonally adjusted numbers. But do you
think we are going to hit 4 percent GDP this year? Because that is
actually what a lot of the budgets were projected on.
So sometimes we will be here in a debate with my brothers and sisters
on the left, and they are holding up these charts saying: Well, it is
2013; we are going to be just fine over the next 10 years. And you get
into those next 10 years, and you start to realize we are going to be
lucky to hit 2 percent.
So much of what we have shared with the American people in the
previous decade, the numbers were blatantly wrong, and not to the good
side, to a much more difficult side. So when we start to look at this
chart--and, once again, 2026 isn't that long from now--you start to
realize we are going to be approaching $30 trillion of debt. Why this
becomes incredibly important, once again, for all my Keynesian
economists out there who think we should just go more into debt, spend
and we will get stimulus, now we have built up so much debt that the
ratcheting effect you get if you start to raise interest rates and half
your debt needs to be refinanced within a 5-year period--they call it a
weighted daily average--all of a sudden any new revenues you may be
getting from that Keynesian stimulus are being consumed by interest.
Every day we wait to deal with this we lose options on how we can
protect Medicare, on how we can protect Social
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Security, and on how we can protect our economic future. The sooner we
do what is necessary in tax reform and all the other reforms and stop
some of the crazy squabbling--I am sorry the left lost; well, actually,
I am not, but I am sorry it hurt their feelings so much--and maybe come
to the table and prove to the American people you actually care about
them in a fashion where you are being honest with the math, hold up a
calculator and demonstrate that we actually are going to do what is
right.
Back to the last part. We are going to do this slide over again
because this is really important. Remember, we said part of this is
just math.
The economic growth. The part of our society that uses 50 percent of
the healthcare dollars is 5 percent of our population. It is all
fixable.
So there are two themes here on the first parts of this. In health
care, the expense, the cost is already in the system. Whether it be our
reform, whether it be the ACA, whether it be before the ACA, the total
cost is already there.
What we have been working on are two things. How do you move the cost
around so that we can actually lower the cost for that 50 percent that
only uses 3 percent so they will actually participate in the insurance
market, lowering everyone's rate, instead of what is happening today
where they just don't participate?
Remember, you saw the slide. 10.9 percent of the population is not
buying health insurance today. They don't have coverage. They are
uninsured. Some of that is because of the cost; some of that is because
of the waivers. The only way you get them in is that thing we call
premium efficiency. We have got to drive down that cost. But if we do
that, I am actually pretty optimistic good things are going to happen.
Now, I want to actually take you to something that there really are
bipartisan solutions. I am going to make you this argument that
technology is the great optionality around this, it is the great
unifying thing. I am going to walk you through something, and later I
want you to tell me whether this is Republican, Democratic, right, or
left. I am going to make the argument it is data.
I live in Maricopa County, the fourth most populous county in the
United States. It is what we call a nonattainment county. It means
certain types of pollutants are in excess, and on occasion it spikes
up. In the past, we would get a phone call from EPA saying: Hey, one of
our monitors shut off. We think we are going to shut down your building
permits.
Well, remember how we were just talking about we live in a society
where we must have economic growth if we are going to be able to
finance and pay for our promises? So I came to you and said there is a
much more elegant way to keep the air clean and actually have economic
growth: reward those who are following the rules and catch those who
are breaking the rules when it comes to polluting our air quality. And
it is data.
So right now, here is how we regulate.
You want to open a business. Let's say you want to do a powder
coating business in Phoenix. You have to go out and get a bunch of
permits from the county, from the State DEQ. You also submit to the
EPA. Depending on the types of volatile organics and other things you
are using, you may have to file reports every quarter. You have to do a
major audit every year.
Does filling up file cabinets full of paper make the air quality
cleaner in your community? Seriously, because this is our regulatory
model. We basically have a 1938 regulatory model where we make people
fill out lots and lots of pieces of paper. We send them in. We hire
lawyers and auditors, and we hire consultants to help us fill out this
paper, and we shove it in file cabinets down at the air quality
regulator or environmental quality regulator. Do full file cabinets
make the air quality cleaner in your community?
It is an absurd model when we are all walking around with
supercomputers in our pocket. There is now technology coming on the
market where you, through Bluetooth, through an actual plug-in, you can
actually be walking around with your own air quality monitoring system.
Well, think about my community. If I could have a couple thousand
people driving around, traveling around, walking around, hiking around
my community getting air quality samples every 5 minutes, at the end of
the week I have a couple hundred thousand data points. You put it up on
a GIS map, and you catch those who are sinning.
Think about it. It basically is a combination of crowdsourcing
citizen science. And the tradeoff is don't make that company fill out
lots and lots of pieces of paper or that organization over here fill
out lots and lots of pieces of paper and fill up a file cabinet,
because if I have enough monitors and sensors moving around the
community, if they screw up, you catch them instantly.
It is not like today's world where a couple of years later maybe an
auditor catches them; you go to the file cabinet and use the file
cabinet as a tool to sue them, but yet you have had 2 years of
pollutants in your air. Let's catch the bad guys immediately and leave
the good guys alone.
We can do that by this sort of crowdsource data model, the idea that
the entire community gets to participate in the collecting of the data.
You get to look on the GIS map. The air quality regulator gets to look
and say: Hey, we have a hot point over here. Let's go find out what it
is. Hey, we found some clowns painting cars in the back of a lot.
Are those clowns out there getting air quality permits to do it? The
folks down the street that are using the filters and are in the booth,
if they are following the rules, they get left alone, but you catch the
ones that have been escaping. It is a use of crowdsource data. We
actually have a whole video of this on our website.
We now have introduced a piece of legislation that is over at Energy
and Commerce. This should be a bipartisan piece of legislation because
that Republican or Democrat--it uses data to let you know what is
happening in the air quality in your community. It uses data to catch
bad actors, and it uses data to let you know you can leave good actors
alone so they can grow their businesses, so they can pay people more,
so there are more job opportunities, instead of spending the money
filling up file cabinets and hiring consultants. It is an elegant
solution.
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Is that Republican or Democrat? I will make the argument it is data.
There are solutions that both sides around here can use.
So the next time you have someone getting behind these microphones
and saying, well, we are deregulating this--no. It is time for a
revolution in the way we think.
We are all walking around with these. With the new sensors, you can
manage your health care, you can test your water, you can test your
soil, you can check the ambient sound, but you can also do the air
quality in your community.
I am going to make you an argument there are actually solutions
moving around here, and if I can get beyond the hyperbolic rhetoric,
maybe we can start to move some of these solutions forward.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
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